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Comstock44 said:
Why no shoulder pads in the PLL? Is rough play discouraged? All about looks? To me it looks like glorified club ball.
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shoulder pads don't provide any protection really other than the now chestplate for commotio cordis(sic). and even that is extremely dubious scientifically.
 
Comstock44 said:
Shoulder pads don’t really provide protection? This has to be the dumbest post I’ve ever read on here.
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ok, skippy. i take it you've played a lot of lacrosse games. they don't. which is why the majority of high-end (and other) players once aged out of nc$$ don't wear them. and haven't for decades, not a new phenomenon.
 
wgdsr said:
ok, skippy. i take it you've played a lot of lacrosse games. they don't. which is why the majority of high-end (and other) players once aged out of nc$$ don't wear them. and haven't for decades, not a new phenomenon.
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This is nonsensical. Any amount of padding provides more protection than no padding. They don’t wear them because of feel, look, etc. (vanity).

same with cutting palms out on gloves. Every other sport players wear gloves that help improve grip, but in lacrosse …

Players are getting bigger, faster, stronger. They shoot harder. Wearing less protection makes less and less sense as gear gets lighter and more flexible, and athletes get more forceful.

I think players will say that as skill level increases, pads are less necessary because sticks and checks are less arbitrary and therefore coverage is less necessary.
 
wgdsr said:
ok, skippy. i take it you've played a lot of lacrosse games. they don't. which is why the majority of high-end (and other) players once aged out of nc$$ don't wear them. and haven't for decades, not a new phenomenon.
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Exactly. Getting whacked on the shoulder is not going to slow you down. The so called chest protection on older shoulder pads is very thin and would provide nothing in a situation where the ball is coming at you at 90mph. You never see them in any live game action post college whether it is summer league or pros. Maybe a conversation to be had about players actually protecting their chest when playing lacrosse due to the obvious risks of getting hit with the ball, but actual padding covering the shoulder area has been unnecessary for a long time in the field game.

Granted I never played in any sort of pro league, but I have never worn them at any time post-college. On attack all I ever want padded up is my elbow and funny-bone area. The rest you gotta suck it up. Box lacrosse is another story.
 
Shrmdougluvr said:
This is nonsensical. Any amount of padding provides more protection than no padding. They don’t wear them because of feel, look, etc. (vanity).

same with cutting palms out on gloves. Every other sport players wear gloves that help improve grip, but in lacrosse …

Players are getting bigger, faster, stronger. They shoot harder. Wearing less protection makes less and less sense as gear gets lighter and more flexible,
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they're not even shoulder pads any longer, they are chest pads. no plastic other than chestplate. just thin layers of foam. help with scratches and abrasions, but even on the shoulder other than about 2-3 inches each side.
DoctahLexus said:
Exactly. Getting whacked on the shoulder is not going to slow you down. The so called chest protection on older shoulder pads is very thin and would provide nothing in a situation where the ball is coming at you at 90mph. You never see them in any live game action post college whether it is summer league or pros. Maybe a conversation to be had about players actually protecting their chest when playing lacrosse due to the obvious risks of getting hit with the ball, but actual padding covering the shoulder area has been unnecessary for a long time in the field game.

Granted I never played in any sort of pro league, but I have never worn them at any time post-college. On attack all I ever want padded up is my elbow and funny-bone area. The rest you gotta suck it up. Box lacrosse is another story.
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here is the tl;dr on chestplates:
biggest risk group by far for commotio cordis is around ages 12-15.
testing for chestplates by nocsae before mandated? done @ about 35 mph.

there was no scientific data that could conclude they were going to help in the event of 60, 80+ mph shot at the chest at the exact wrong time.

maybe they do, maybe they don't. the rest of the pad nowadays is thin foam. and a thin strip now on the shoulder as well.
 
Comstock44 said:
I’ve played in many lacrosse games. Anyone “aged out” playing on offense is a fool not to wear shoulder pads. I can assure you they’ve saved my collarbones on a number of occasions. But you’re tough guy who doesn’t need pads. I bet you can’t see your toes underneath your gut either. Lol.
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keep going with the insults? nothing about today's most used chestpads is saving a collarbone. not a tough guy, just been doing the same thing 70-90% of my peers have been doing for a long time. don't have a gut, either, not sure how that applies. you sound mad.
 
Comstock44 said:
You sound like a clown. Probably an old hack. Explain why shoulder pads are required in NCAA’s?
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explain why they're not required in every professional outdoor, club league, open men's tournament or usa tryout (or games) for ages?
get padded up!
 
I noticed many of the defensive players at the final four went without any form of elbow pad or pulled them up completely above the elbow. Sure it helps with flexibility but you’re done for if you take a good shot to the elbow.
 
Well there ya go they have to wear least a chest plate as tucci got flagged for not having anything. So they do have something as it’s a new rule.

Also man stevens has to finish it looks had some really good looks this weekend n of course his only goal was a low angle backhand flip shot. Misses the better looks but drills the flashy goal the syracuse way lol jk
 
Comstock44 said:
He knows Brennan O'Neill will draw the opposing team's best defender, leaving himself with a better matchup.
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He also gets to play with his brother, I imagine that was a big draw. Also college teammate Wiskauskis. It sounds like the Redwoods were able to offer the most money, but he chose Denver instead.

Should be interesting, they now have four of the last six Tewaarton winners on the roster now. I am guessing they play Bernhardt at midfield?
 
gotta say coach Os defense has been pretty solid so far grant they do have a great kirst in net to help. Hope coaching in pll helps him grow to better coach n takes advice from people at that level n takes it all back to cuse to help the D improve more. Also hope it helps recruitment saying i coach in pll.
 
Hung onto the ESPN plus for a touch longer so I can actually watch these PLL games. If Denver ever figures out how to balance the talent they have they should be insane on offense. Bernhardt didn’t score but he makes everyone guarding him look silly with his speed. He will quickly bounce back and become one of the best in the league. One of the biggest cheat codes off the dodge that the sport has seen.

The waterdogs under Tierney have a really fun to watch offense. One of the few in the PLL that already seems to have good chemistry and spacing. And they don’t even have Kirst yet! I also really enjoy the chemistry between Asher Nolting and Ryan Drenner on the Cannons. The format itself is still a little flawed, and it feels way less serious than college, but the level of talent makes it worth a watch.
 
Damn. Dan Arestia just said on twitter that Tucker Dordevic has “medically retired” due to a severe jaw injury from last season. Devastating news for a guy who struggled so much with lower body injuries only to have a freak thing like this end his career early. Sad sad news.

What an electric career it was though. Insanely gifted athlete who was also an equally hard worker. I remember all the chirps he got early in his career saying he was a bad shooter. By the end of college he was hitting insane snipes with both hands including an entire year for us crushing it at lefty attack, and I believe he lead the PLL in two pointers at one point. That takes seriously focused work and commitment to achieve. He did not just sit on his natural athletic abilities and call it a day. He was always grinding to improve.

For better or worse college lax is the level that has the most resources behind it and demands the most of the players. Dordevic went hard and had a hell of a run during that time, along with his successful years in the PLL. Thank you for all the electric moments Tucker and don’t hang your head after an excellent career!
 

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