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2025 West Lot/Selection date and times UPDATED

Lots of longtime diehards on this thread getting utterly jobbed on parking. It sucks. I feel for you all, I know how our zany crew at NMAN is about the friends and fam component of the tailgating. It means everything.

To the many on this thread saying they are done, I get it. In the fire of anger, I just want our friends to hopefully remember the good SUFB has provided in their countless years of dedication, especially through the real bad times we all recall and hate. It would really suck to lose you guys, if you so chose. No shade on making decisions, you have every right to. But know that we in Orange Nation will miss you, Fran and the players, will miss you. We need everyone, to show up and show out. If you decide to check out, do not be a stranger, and if you ever decide to come back, our collective arms will always be wide open.
 
hoopsupstate said:
I probably won’t be around when Micron is in full force, but tickets and parking will be next to impossible to get.
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If Micron gets finished the present stadium isn't big enough . I would expect that eventually a stadium will be built by the state off the campus, where it can be used year- round with ample parking and easy road access.
 
OrgTruckPat said:
Lots of longtime diehards on this thread getting utterly jobbed on parking. It sucks. I feel for you all, I know how our zany crew at NMAN is about the friends and fam component of the tailgating. It means everything.

To the many on this thread saying they are done, I get it. In the fire of anger, I just want our friends to hopefully remember the good SUFB has provided in their countless years of dedication, especially through the real bad times we all recall and hate. It would really suck to lose you guys, if you so chose. No shade on making decisions, you have every right to. But know that we in Orange Nation will miss you, Fran and the players, will miss you. We need everyone, to show up and show out. If you decide to check out, do not be a stranger, and if you ever decide to come back, our collective arms will always be wide open.
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Darn straight!
 
One thing is clear from all of this. They did not prepare for demand that well. Have the ever even attempted to source the demand numbers? The way things sold they should have priced parking higher.

I know we have round and round on this but given how it played out allowing people to buy multiple passes before so many even had the chance to buy one is still a bad policy when inventory is so tight. Maybe its only a difference of 10 less people getting a pass maybe its 100. Who knows. Maybe its a nice reward for the upper tier donors only who have 6+ tickets?

Like the masters has the 4 ticket limit. Lots of places have limits on tickets.

Clearly something changed. I talked with a rep just last week and they said it would be no problem getting a pass in my normal lot with a donor spot 1500 spots better than ever.
 
One thing is clear from all of this. They did not prepare for demand that well. Have the ever even attempted to source the demand numbers? The way things sold they should have priced parking higher.

I know we have round and round on this but given how it played out allowing people to buy multiple passes before so many even had the chance to buy one is still a bad policy when inventory is so tight. Maybe its only a difference of 10 less people getting a pass maybe its 100. Who knows. Maybe its a nice reward for the upper tier donors only who have 5+ tickets?

Like the masters has the 4 ticket limit. Lots of places have limits on tickets.

Clearly something changed. I talked with a rep just last week and they said it would be no problem getting a pass in my normal lot with a donor spot 1500 spots better.
 
cuseguy said:
I wouldn’t have renewed my season tickets if I knew I’d be shut out of parking. I’m going to call my rep Monday and tell him I’m done buying season tickets and giving money to the school.
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There are more folks out there...feeling this.

I know another person who gave up going due to new policies
 
A few points in no particular order from a serial RAY parker.
  • Last year the West lots felt straight up oversold. People were forced to park along the perimeter which I believe is a fire lane.
  • 81 is coming down which could also impact this in a number of ways, including even temp eminent domain for equipment and materials. This is a mega project and we’re unfortunately in the middle.
  • RAY is my favorite for tailgating. I was able to get it, but I have a three digit donor rank, and frankly was surprised that Ray and Irving were my best available. I do think resellers are buying passes now too, and some of them seem to have a boatload of seats which is kind of a loophole that paper passes closed.
  • This is obviously an anticipated season.

Overall I am sure this is frustrating AF and feel bad for those who didn’t get their lots. But it also seems to me a situation that could radically improve next year. If you stayed through G Rob and Shafer I think one year of a shuttle bus for Fran Brown’s second season is probably worth it in the big picture, especially since 2026 has more promise than I can literally remember a season having and I would hate to see people drop their seats over this, as crappy as it is.
 
OttosShoes said:
A few points in no particular order from a serial RAY parker.
  • Last year the West lots felt straight up oversold. People were forced to park along the perimeter which I believe is a fire lane.
  • 81 is coming down which could also impact this in a number of ways, including even temp eminent domain for equipment and materials. This is a mega project and we’re unfortunately in the middle.
  • RAY is my favorite for tailgating. I was able to get it, but I have a three digit donor rank, and frankly was surprised that Ray and Irving were my best available. I do think resellers are buying passes now too, and some of them seem to have a boatload of seats which is kind of a loophole that paper passes closed.
  • This is obviously an anticipated season.

Overall I am sure this is frustrating AF and feel bad for those who didn’t get their lots. But it also seems to me a situation that could radically improve next year. If you stayed through G Rob and Shafer I think one year of a shuttle bus for Fran Brown’s second season is probably worth it in the big picture, especially since 2026 has more promise than I can literally remember a season having and I would hate to see people drop their seats over this, as crappy as it is.
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The shuttle bus doesn’t solve the problem when you’re used to tailgating with 150 people, a number of them longtime friends, and now you’ll be tailgating with yourself. The West Lot is unique and special for some of us. It’s not just a parking space.
 
cuseguy said:
The shuttle bus doesn’t solve the problem when you’re used to tailgating with 150 people, a number of them longtime friends, and now you’ll be tailgating with yourself. The West Lot is unique and special for some of us. It’s not just a parking space.
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Not only do they just don’t get it, they just don’t care.
 
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cuseguy said:
The shuttle bus doesn’t solve the problem when you’re used to tailgating with 150 people, a number of them longtime friends, and now you’ll be tailgating with yourself. The West Lot is unique and special for some of us. It’s not just a parking space.
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Bill Orange said:
Not only do they just don’t get it, they just don’t care.
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I do understand this and I do care. A close friend got hit by this last year with the re-seating.

Last season they packed stuff into roller coolers and then walked down to West lot to hang out with us. I put their stuff in my car for the game and met them afterwards and they did it in reverse. It was a lot, but I suspect many will also have long time friends worth doing this to hang out, and that those friends will be more than happy to take up what slack they can.

I know it's a lot--it's lame and it sucks. And I despise resellers, whom I am suspicious of here. But there's going to be enough people pissed off I think it's something Cuse Athletics could potentially fix next year, so I'd hate to see people lose their seats and am trying to put some context on it.
 
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OttosShoes said:
I do understand this and I do care. A close friend got hit by this last year with the re-seating.

Last season they packed stuff into roller coolers and then walked down to West lot to hang out with us. I put their stuff in my car for the game and met them afterwards and they did it in reverse. It was a lot, but I suspect many will also have long time friends worth doing this to hang out, and that those friends will be more than happy to take up what slack they can.

I know it's a lot--it's lame and it sucks. And I despise resellers, whom I am suspicious of here. But there's going to be enough people pissed off I think it's something Cuse Athletics could potentially fix next year, so I'd hate to see people lose their seats and am trying to put some context on it.
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I appreciate the context, but it seems like the writing has been on the wall here for a while as far as West lot tailgating going the way of the dodo. What makes you confident this will be a one year thing and improve next year?
 
OttosShoes said:
I do understand this and I do care. A close friend got hit by this last year with the re-seating.

Last season they packed stuff into roller coolers and then walked down to West lot to hang out with us. I put their stuff in my car for the game and met them afterwards and they did it in reverse. It was a lot, but I suspect many will also have long time friends worth doing this to hang out, and that those friends will be more than happy to take up what slack they can.

I know it's a lot--it's lame and it sucks. And I despise resellers, whom I am suspicious of here. But there's going to be enough people pissed off I think it's something Cuse Athletics could potentially fix next year, so I'd hate to see people lose their seats and am trying to put some context on it.
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I was referring to SU.
 
Domedog84 said:
I appreciate the context, but it seems like the writing has been on the wall here for a while as far as West lot tailgating going the way of the dodo. What makes you confident this will be a one year thing and improve next year?
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One of the concepts that I developed and championed during my time with Cuse Council was a Tailgate Registry system. Core concept was the establishment of a page on Cuse.com where major tailgate leaders could enter key data points for their group. There would be a drop down field added on every individual’s profile page where they could optionally associate themselves with a listed tailgate group. This would give Athletics the ability to quantify and recognize the aggregate contribution and value of each group and better support the tailgate culture that is integral to the college football experience. They could then allocate a small number of additional parking spots for sale to the group leader (s) and potentially even reserve space in the designated lot.
Other features enabled the recognition of major groups and competition between the groups through various events.
We presented the concept to SideArm pre-Covid and there was some interest. Unfortunately with changes in the SUAD administration and core constituencies nothing ever progressed.
If anyone is interested I have a conceptual design PowerPoint presentation that I would be happy to share. Send me a PM with an email address and I will forward.
 
Parking is and will be the downfall for a lot of season ticket holders. I’ve been fortunate enough to always park in the west lots for 22 years. My giving is based on my seats. I drive two hours both ways to football and basketball games. If I ever get forced out of west parking, I will not renew. I’m not willing to add another half hour to my getting home from basketball games by having to catch a shuttle to Skytop and then drive out. I’m already concerned how the 81 highway construction is going to effect my getting into the west lot. I come down 481 south to Brighten and then turn on Martin Luther King Blvd. It’s easy and pretty quick. Who knows how this construction is going to turn out. I’m hoping they make the situation better with direct access to the Dome, but you never know. I feel for people who lost their parking. What really bothers me the most is seeing the ESF parking lot sitting there empty. It makes no sense and it’s an insult to SU and ESF for not working something out. Shame on both of them.
 
Domedog84 said:
What makes you confident this will be a one year thing and improve next year?
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I’m not confident it will go back, there’s just a lot of indicators of transition.

What I am confident in is that we can adapt to wherever this settles, which I don’t think will be what we have this year. :)
 
Consigliere said:
One of the concepts that I developed and championed during my time with Cuse Council was a Tailgate Registry system. Core concept was the establishment of a page on Cuse.com where major tailgate leaders could enter key data points for their group. There would be a drop down field added on every individual’s profile page where they could optionally associate themselves with a listed tailgate group. This would give Athletics the ability to quantify and recognize the aggregate contribution and value of each group and better support the tailgate culture that is integral to the college football experience. They could then allocate a small number of additional parking spots for sale to the group leader (s) and potentially even reserve space in the designated lot.
Other features enabled the recognition of major groups and competition between the groups through various events.
We presented the concept to SideArm pre-Covid and there was some interest. Unfortunately with changes in the SUAD administration and core constituencies nothing ever progressed.
If anyone is interested I have a conceptual design PowerPoint presentation that I would be happy to share. Send me a PM with an email address and I will forward.
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That is a very noble effort. I hope the university develops a long term parking strategy that takes into account athletics/tailgates.

Maybe I am just jaded with my experience of the last 2 years, but I think the university is happy that athletics is not part of parking, because it is an easy way to divert anger when people call with these types of issues and concerns. Their system allows inaction on their part and forces eventual adjustment by the customer. If they maintain this long enough then the west lot will be a distant memory and the new customer will be used to parking at Skytop.
 
Consigliere said:
One of the concepts that I developed and championed during my time with Cuse Council was a Tailgate Registry system. Core concept was the establishment of a page on Cuse.com where major tailgate leaders could enter key data points for their group. There would be a drop down field added on every individual’s profile page where they could optionally associate themselves with a listed tailgate group. This would give Athletics the ability to quantify and recognize the aggregate contribution and value of each group and better support the tailgate culture that is integral to the college football experience. They could then allocate a small number of additional parking spots for sale to the group leader (s) and potentially even reserve space in the designated lot.
Other features enabled the recognition of major groups and competition between the groups through various events.
We presented the concept to SideArm pre-Covid and there was some interest. Unfortunately with changes in the SUAD administration and core constituencies nothing ever progressed.
If anyone is interested I have a conceptual design PowerPoint presentation that I would be happy to share. Send me a PM with an email address and I will forward.
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Logical fix for core tailgating groups. It wouldn’t take much to fix. There aren’t even that many big tailgates they have to accommodate either.
 
Domedog84 said:
That is a very noble effort. I hope the university develops a long term parking strategy that takes into account athletics/tailgates.

Maybe I am just jaded with my experience of the last 2 years, but I think the university is happy that athletics is not part of parking, because it is an easy way to divert anger when people call with these types of issues and concerns. Their system allows inaction on their part and forces eventual adjustment by the customer. If they maintain this long enough then the west lot will be a distant memory and the new customer will be used to parking at Skytop.
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Sadly I think you’re right. And I think university folks will look at peer schools and say, most use shuttle buses so you’re out of luck. Wish it wouldn’t be that way but I think that’s what’s going to happen. The lots are more valuable for other use cases than sports parking (even though the fan experience is directly tied to athletics doing well).
 
Bill Orange said:
I was just apprised of this:

Due to I-81 project, little Renwick Ave. (@ bottom of hill west of the Dome) will be permanently closed this coming Wednesday. It connects Van Buren Ave. to MLK Ave. This sucks for those of us coming and from the
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That’s crazy.
 
baggerbob said:
If Micron gets finished the present stadium isn't big enough . I would expect that eventually a stadium will be built by the state off the campus, where it can be used year- round with ample parking and easy road access.
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Nobody is building a new stadium now. That ship has sailed.

State funding?
 
So just looking at numbers. Between the stadium lot and fine lot and such there are roughly 1000 spots to park. How is it that less than 20% of our STH were able to buy up 1000 spots? That doesnt even include 100s of other spots that were also sold during these first 3 days in various smaller lots.

Ballpark 1000 people bought 1500 spots?

We know not every STH usually buys parking and not all of them buy it down there. Some in this initial group must be in Manley or Skytop as well.

Even if you factor in, they sell on 75% of a lot, the numbers are vastly different in what happened this year.
They showed us that the avg person who bought a fine lot pass last year was a low donor level 7. This year they didn't even get thru the 6's it seems. Thats about 1000 people faster and thats ignoring that people in level 8 might have been able to buy passes in past years.
 
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