2026 4 Star and 5 Star Visits

[tep624]

It’s unreliable, of course. That’s why it’s best to view it as % chance they’ll be successful in college. The reliability of the system erodes as the you get away from the elite, self-evident easy calls of a 5*. The quantity of 50/50 guys makes evaluation really hard and really difficult to project.

I’d rather have guys from the elite category, along with everyone else. Lucky for us we have a punchers chance w this HC and staff.

I’d also suggest Fran’s talent evaluation alongside his ability to judge intangibles - leads to a better track record w 3* guys. But we won’t know that for a while. His program and coaching also could elevate sub talent, but it’s only off of one year.

It matters with top 300 kids, I think the yield rate there is probably in the 60% range as far as starter quality players. Maybe better.

Outside that range, not so much. It’s highly subjective and more heavily influenced by biased “analysts” that have conflicts due to their relationships with a certain school or schools. They don’t have as much leeway with the top 300 kids because having 4 different sites does help to keep them honest.

Recruiting against your peers and above always matters though in my opinion.

 

[NJCuse97]

And I stand by my statement that the star system is reflective of those committable offers by the true evaluators of talent the coaching staffs of top programs. By deductive logic those players with the most stars have the most committable offers by top programs which is a positive correlation to talent contribution.
And I'm sure the response will now be 'not always' which is indicative of not understanding what reflective, deductive logic, correlation and contribution, really means.

I think there is a “chicken or egg” question with this. Are the stars reflective of “committable offers” or are some of those offers reflective of the stars? If Rutgers likes a kid and offers, he gets a rating bump. That bump may directly lead to more offers.

 

[Sudano]

I think there is a “chicken or egg” question with this. Are the stars reflective of “committable offers” or are some of those offers reflective of the stars? If Rutgers likes a kid and offers, he gets a rating bump. That bump may directly lead to more offers.

What college staff offers because someone has a star rating?

 

[Sdot]

What college staff offers because someone has a star rating?

Pretty sure I remember someone saying Jimbo fisher was offering players based off stars. They said he was trying to build the best statistical recruiting class on paper.

 

[NJCuse97]

What college staff offers because someone has a star rating?

I would hope few if any, but this is why many say the stars don’t matter. The coaches evaluation, and the program fit (speed valued over size as one basic example) are more important. I have been involved with developing and selling real estate and it can still surprise me occasionally that a better building can still lease slower and for less because of a marginal location difference. I also would not be surprised if a star rating was a factor, or swaying influence in a coach choosing to recruit Player A harder than Player B. Heck, in some cases it may just be to change a narrative or recruiting momentum as “great players want to play with great players”. And now we’re back at the beginning of the argument again.

For the record, I want it all, inclusive of highly ranked classes (stars), but I can also see why people put less stock in them as the main measure of success.

 

[bnoro]

I think there is a “chicken or egg” question with this. Are the stars reflective of “committable offers” or are some of those offers reflective of the stars? If Rutgers likes a kid and offers, he gets a rating bump. That bump may directly lead to more offers.

This question is easily answered.

Why do the recruiting sites exist? (to sell subscriptions to college sports fans)
How do you sell more subscriptions? (build more excitement around specific teams by ranking players they offer higher)
Which schools sell the most subscriptions? (the ones that are generally good at the sport)
When the fans get upset that a player chooses a different school, how does the site react? (drop the rankings of that player even if there's no evaluation period currently happening)

As with everything in American society currently, just follow the money if you want answers...

 

[Roger N]

Pretty sure I remember someone saying Jimbo fisher was offering players based off stars. They said he was trying to build the best statistical recruiting class on paper.

As was proven, Jimbo was not a "Fisher" of good football players