ACC and Orange Bowl Update

[arbitragegls]

the finalization of the competition for the ACC in the Orange Bowl is near according to my source.

It now appears that there are three possibilities: SEC and B1G team that is not going to the Rose, Champion or Semis for NC and Notre Dame. What this means is that in a year that neither the SEC or B1g is going to a semi final the Orange may take the #2 team in either conference...or Notre Dame dependent on ranking...if either/or B1G or SEC first team goes to the semis for the NC, then it would be the #3 teams from that league that would be potential competitors as their # 2 would go to their respective contract bowl...the highest rated determined by those teams and Notre Dame. There is no Pac12 or Big12 or BE being considered. Final information should be avialable, inlcuding TV dollars etc in next several weeks.

The ACC is in negotiations and it is looking like there will be a bundle of dollars forthcoming for TV rights which the ACC owns 100%--how much it provides to its competition is also being negotiated.

I believe this is good news on several fronts as both the SEC and B1G are willing to provide their #2 team to the Orange Bowl if neither #1 is going to the Semis for NC. It appears the BE is being pushed out of the Top rung of football...additionally, The ACC is in process of relooking at the number of conference games potentially reducing to 8. Will update as I learn more...Go 'Cuse!

 

[arbitragegls]

more from above...additionally, it now appears that the only teams in contract bowls at this time will be from the 5 major conferences...the BE as all other teams appear to be excluded...this could present major problems down the road...heck maybe the BE will endeavor to do a game that will include its champion and someone from the Big 12 or other conference or BYU...wouldn't that be funny if the BE worked with the Big 12---this is highly doubtful...so BE is really going down...

 

[MaxwellCuse]

This is how the "insiders" on the WVU forum are spinning it:

"So basically the ACC champ will be matched up with a 7-5 ND team, or the 3rd or 4th place SEC or B1G team? Oh yeah, ACC is clearly one of the "Big 5" conferences."

LOL! No wonder these people have to live in West Virginia.

 

[Toga]

Excepting Notre Dame?

more from above...additionally, it now appears that the only teams in contract bowls at this time will be from the 5 major conferences...the BE as all other teams appear to be excluded...this could present major problems down the road...heck maybe the BE will endeavor to do a game that will include its champion and someone from the Big 12 or other conference or BYU...wouldn't that be funny if the BE worked with the Big 12---this is highly doubtful...so BE is really going down...

 

[Bonz44]

You can't state facts over on the WVU Big 12 board?? That's crazy talk..They all think that there gonna be pulling in $45 million/year from the big 12 but when you post a link or state the facts that the Big12 is only making $20 million and $1.5 million needs to be paid back to the big 12...so there really only making $18.5 million while the ACC is making $17 million/year they all flip out and say those aren't accurate numbers, your a ACC apologist, ACC sux etc...I just think WVU can't get over the fact the ACC didn't want them.Not sure if there all playin with a full deck over there..

 

[rrlbees]

One of the Espn guys was saying the same thing earlier today.

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[arbitragegls]

Excepting Notre Dame?

sorry...Notre Dame is included...

 

[MaxwellCuse]

One of the Espn guys was saying the same thing earlier today.

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Saying what?

 

[rrlbees]

Saying what?

What arby had bolded.

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[sufan]

the finalization of the competition for the ACC in the Orange Bowl is near according to my source.

It now appears that there are three possibilities: SEC and B1G team that is not going to the Rose, Champion or Semis for NC and Notre Dame. What this means is that in a year that neither the SEC or B1g is going to a semi final the Orange may take the #2 team in either conference...or Notre Dame dependent on ranking...if either/or B1G or SEC first team goes to the semis for the NC, then it would be the #3 teams from that league that would be potential competitors as their # 2 would go to their respective contract bowl...the highest rated determined by those teams and Notre Dame. There is no Pac12 or Big12 or BE being considered. Final information should be avialable, inlcuding TV dollars etc in next several weeks.

The ACC is in negotiations and it is looking like there will be a bundle of dollars forthcoming for TV rights which the ACC owns 100%--how much it provides to its competition is also being negotiated.

I believe this is good news on several fronts as both the SEC and B1G are willing to provide their #2 team to the Orange Bowl if neither #1 is going to the Semis for NC. It appears the BE is being pushed out of the Top rung of football...additionally, The ACC is in process of relooking at the number of conference games potentially reducing to 8. Will update as I learn more...Go 'Cuse!

Question:
if the Rose or Champ bowls are playoff bowls every 3 years, then I understood that the top SEC or Big 10 team not in the playoff bowls would be in the Orange bowl against the top ACC not in the playoff bowls and not the #2 SEC or Big 10 team.


This possibility is described in detail in Frank's blog: http://frankthetank.wordpress.com/2...ay-picks-and-classic-music-video-of-the-week/

"This should go without saying, but the #1 pick means the top selection from the conference that isn’t playing in the semifinals.)

The upshot of this would be that ACC #1 will be playing either Big Ten #1, SEC #1 or a highly-ranked Notre Dame team in the Orange Bowl in any given year, which will likely yield a media rights payout for the ACC that will be in line with what the Big Ten and Pac-12 are receiving for the Rose Bowl and the SEC and Big 12 are receiving for the Champions Bowl."


There are 3 contract bowls: OB, Rose, Champs, which each host a playoff once every 3 years.

There are 2 playoff bowls where top teams are selected by committee.

There is one additional access bowl to accommodate the Big 5 conference top team assuming they are not in the playoffs, when they are bumped out of their home contract bowl every 3 years or a top ranked at large team(s), which would also be selected by committee..

 

[arbitragegls]

^excellent ad...and correct...if the semi rotation includes either the Rose or Champion bowl it is possible for the Orange to have either the #1 SEC or #1 B1g or ...interestingly, in this scenario, it would be possible for the ACC #2 to face those mentioned above or Notre Dame if ranked higher than either team from these other conferences.

 

[kingottoiii]

Last year likely would have been:

1. LSU vs 4. Oregon
2. Okie St vs 3. Bama

Rose Stanford vs Wisconsin
Champ Arkansas vs Kansas St
Orange Michigan vs Clemson
4th Bowl South Carolina vs Oklahoma

So zero teams outside the Big 5. The Top 15 BCS teams left out would be #7 Boise St, #11 Virginia Tech, and #12 Baylor.

 

[SUinNYC]

Last year likely would have been:

1. LSU vs 4. Oregon
2. Okie St vs 3. Bama

Rose Stanford vs Wisconsin
Champ Arkansas vs Kansas St
Orange Oklahoma vs Clemson
4th Bowl South Carolina vs Michigan

So zero teams outside the Big 5. The Top 15 BCS teams left out would be #7 Boise St, #11 Virginia Tech, and #12 Baylor.

Oklahoma in Orange? I thought it was B1G or SEC?

 

[kingottoiii]

Oklahoma in Orange? I thought it was B1G or SEC?

Whoops I guess I let the cat out of the bag they are on their way to the B1G.

 

[sufan]

Last year likely would have been:

1. LSU vs 4. Oregon
2. Okie St vs 3. Bama

Rose Stanford vs Wisconsin
Champ Arkansas vs Kansas St
Orange Oklahoma vs Clemson
4th Bowl South Carolina vs Michigan

So zero teams outside the Big 5. The Top 15 BCS teams left out would be #7 Boise St, #11 Virginia Tech, and #12 Baylor.

the Orange Bowl is a contract bowl, and as described above, the ACC top team not in the playoff bowls would play the top ranked SEC or ND or Big 10 team not in the playoff bowls in years the Rose or Champs bowl is a playoff bowl.


"Last year", one of the Rose, OB, Champs would have been playoff bowl, in which case the only guarantee is the highest ranked contract bowl conference team is in one of the access bowls if they are not in the playoff bowls.

Example:
If Champs was the playoff bowl, and Ok State is in playoff and LSU is in playoff, then there would be no guarantee that the next highest Big 12 or SEC team would be in the access bowl.

The specific deal with the OB which is controlled by the ACC and described above would only involve the top ranked SEC, Big 10 or ND team available playing against the top ranked ACC team available: not OK.