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What is the long play in CFB?

Under the majority of end game scenarios those games likely will no longer exist. So will non FB sports be cut at the non Power schools?

Every end game scenario has negatives somewhere. The best option will be what provides the most benefits overall while also having the least negative impact overall.
States are getting involved, and it's just a matter of time until the Federal Government steps in.
In NIL Tennessee, Virginia, Nebraska, New York, sued the NCAA about their regulations on NIL, and lost.
The NCAA had started an investigation in how NIL was being handled at Tennessee.
Tennessee said the NCAA has no business setting regulations about how NIL should be handled in their state. They also declared they weren't allowed to start an investigation of any kind.
The entire statement is online, it petty much eliminated the NCAA from doing anything, and they can't make regulations or start an investigation.
 
SEC commish says we are forming a league. 65 million per year in budget with players as part time students.
We are capping at 32 teams and will share revenue based off performance and ratings. You have 3 days to decide.
Nope. Ill stick with the remaining programs in college football.
 
SEC & B1G each get (an average of ) 4 teams in a 12 team play off
ND usually gets in
The B12/ACC merger gets 2 teams in
The best of the other D1 conferences gets the last bid
If ND has a bad year then the next SEC/B1G team gets in.

If the playoffs expand to 16 then the SEC & B1G go to an average of 5 each, the B12/ACC will go to 3, ND is still in, the best of the other D1 conferences remain in and the last spot will go to whoever is the highest remaining ranked program.
 
If non P4 schools can figure out how to budget olympic sports with no TV revenue, so can SU. Heck 25 years ago this TV money didn't exist. Did we have sports in the 90s?
What this money does is pay for excessive administrative bloat and salaries and perks

Which is why the decision makers are so short sighted. They only see the weekly paycheck and can't sacrifice for the long term good
 

What is the long play in CFB?​

It's having NIL $ to throw around.
How else does this happen at 4-8 Maryland:

 
Wow, just saw this thread. I'll get to it after my chores are done.
 
Who do you see being poached from the Big 12? If the new model is that a team in a state does not carry the entire state, but is based on the fans/viewership, which Big12 teams lead the way?

I can see your last paragraph happening, at least as an open secret if no official notice is provided. This is partly why I am personally against any ACC team taking a cut in revenue as it heavily favors FSU and Clemson which begs the question, “Why subsidize their exit?” I can agree with some performance based incentives, I.e. a Larger share of the post season revenue each team generates. I don’t favor a viewership model because that is already heavily skewed and is a form of relegation. Teams at the bottom don’t get the better time slots and channels/streamers. The favored teams cannot be favored without the canon fodder to beat up on. That is why the B1G and SEC models work.
I dont see it as teams taking a cut. Rather it is teams having an opportunity to earn more via two performance metrics. One wins. Win games make the championship, make the playoffs and receive a bonus from the League.
Two drive revenue for ESPN and for the ACCN via ratings.
I'm 100% for both of these success driven initiatives. Why? Because it will increase the overall distribution amount for all teams. It will also provide a bonus to those teams in the league that drive that additional revenue. The plan is accretive for the entire league and those teams within the league who do well will receive a bonus. I think it is a great plan. It provides stability which SU needs. It provides and incentive for each team to do well. It also provides a structure that will allow the league to take a run at adding a few more solid teams when the Big 12 contract comes up for renewal. This extension and plan place the ACC in a solid third position. Syracuse proved last season that we can compete in the ACC. Going forward I expect SU will be in the hunt each year for the ACC championship game and with it a spot in the playoff. Personally, I couldn't have hoped for a better outcome.
 
One hundred percent agree. Just look also at all the down state water rights issues happening out west from Idaho to Colorado, western Nebraska, Nevada, Arizona and California. In the Northwest they just found a huge aquifer underground roughly the size of Lake Mead. Underground water rights will also be huge .
Sorry all, didn't mean to get off topic, just was thinking climate could have some implications related to football decisions in the not so distant future.
Water rights? Our kids and grandkids will be long dead by the time this helps us land 4-star recruits.
 
I dont see it as teams taking a cut. Rather it is teams having an opportunity to earn more via two performance metrics. One wins. Win games make the championship, make the playoffs and receive a bonus from the League.
Two drive revenue for ESPN and for the ACCN via ratings.
I'm 100% for both of these success driven initiatives. Why? Because it will increase the overall distribution amount for all teams. It will also provide a bonus to those teams in the league that drive that additional revenue. The plan is accretive for the entire league and those teams within the league who do well will receive a bonus. I think it is a great plan. It provides stability which SU needs. It provides and incentive for each team to do well. It also provides a structure that will allow the league to take a run at adding a few more solid teams when the Big 12 contract comes up for renewal. This extension and plan place the ACC in a solid third position. Syracuse proved last season that we can compete in the ACC. Going forward I expect SU will be in the hunt each year for the ACC championship game and with it a spot in the playoff. Personally, I couldn't have hoped for a better outcome.
Your points have validity to them. However, when you start with horrible coverage, it is nearly impossible to gain good coverage. When FSU gets credit for coverage in spite of a painfully weak performance is on ABC or ESPN and SU is relegated to CW, which may or may not be broadcasting the game, depending on where you are, the starting point bias is difficult to overcome. Being on ABC or ESPN has a significant exposure advantage that CW or ACCN simply cannot provide. Thus, the team that is behaving like a petulant child is going to be rewarded for exposure that is denied to other teams, receiving more revenue and has a built in advantage as they pad their coffers on the way out the door or pay for an earlier exit, further damaging the ACC and SU.

I have no issue with paying for performance, especially from new monies and postseason play. I have no issue with creating more marketable games to enhance viewership. However, when FSU sucks, they suck and should not receive extra money simply because ESPN placed them on ABC or ESPN. Certainly SU and SMU had excellent seasons which deserved better fare than CW. Most fans had no clue SU and SMU were big winners along with Clemson and Miami until the last week or two. Yet, ESPN place FSU on the better access networks instead of the winners.

After starting out the way FSU did, they should not have appeared on anything other than ACCNX, CW or perhaps ACCN. Loyalty is a two way street and ESPN and the ACC seem to have no loyalty towards SU, with lots of loyalty to FSU, the petulant toddler.

Just my perspective, which when added to $10 can get you a coffee at Starbucks.
 
Your points have validity to them. However, when you start with horrible coverage, it is nearly impossible to gain good coverage. When FSU gets credit for coverage in spite of a painfully weak performance is on ABC or ESPN and SU is relegated to CW, which may or may not be broadcasting the game, depending on where you are, the starting point bias is difficult to overcome. Being on ABC or ESPN has a significant exposure advantage that CW or ACCN simply cannot provide. Thus, the team that is behaving like a petulant child is going to be rewarded for exposure that is denied to other teams, receiving more revenue and has a built in advantage as they pad their coffers on the way out the door or pay for an earlier exit, further damaging the ACC and SU.

I have no issue with paying for performance, especially from new monies and postseason play. I have no issue with creating more marketable games to enhance viewership. However, when FSU sucks, they suck and should not receive extra money simply because ESPN placed them on ABC or ESPN. Certainly SU and SMU had excellent seasons which deserved better fare than CW. Most fans had no clue SU and SMU were big winners along with Clemson and Miami until the last week or two. Yet, ESPN place FSU on the better access networks instead of the winners.

After starting out the way FSU did, they should not have appeared on anything other than ACCNX, CW or perhaps ACCN. Loyalty is a two way street and ESPN and the ACC seem to have no loyalty towards SU, with lots of loyalty to FSU, the petulant toddler.

Just my perspective, which when added to $10 can get you a coffee at Starbucks.
Of course you are correct. If SU takes care of business and wins, we will end up getting good time slots and be in the hunt for extra money. NC Clemson and FSU have a huge advantage because they actually deserve it. The fact that they have a rabid fan base is a good thing. If they didnt and the ACCN was all about SU and the other schools we would be making much less. We are never going to consistantly get the ratings that those schools drive but its ok. If the ACC increases the payouts we will have enough money to compete with every school in the ACC which at the end of the day is all that matters. Last point, we need to set up our non conference schedule so that have enough left in the tank to compete within conference.
 
Would like to see it follow English Soccer league with promotions an demotions between things.
Most likely it will just be the B1G and SEC starting their own league with ND and getting whatever amount they want in a TV deal with the rest of the leagues fighting for pennies left.
If that happens the audience will be cut in half
 
The ivies will wake up and decide to rule CFB. Saban comes out of retirement to be a coordinator and they use their science labs to ressurect others to coach.

In a shocking turn of events, the Ivy League schools, long known for their academic prowess and aggressively polite squash tournaments, have decided that they’ve had enough of being mocked for their football teams. Armed with endowments larger than some countries' GDPs, they pooled their billions and set out to dominate college football the only way they knew how: by outspending and out-thinking the competition. Harvard’s game plan was developed by Nobel Prize-winning economists, Yale genetically engineered a 6'8" quarterback with an IQ of 190, and Princeton devised a playbook so complex it required a PhD in theoretical physics to understand. Meanwhile, Brown’s contribution was a really inspiring spoken-word halftime show about the commercialization of sports.

At first, the traditional powerhouses laughed. Alabama’s head coach famously quipped, "You can’t buy grit!" But then the Ivy League teams started winning—big. MIT (recently granted honorary Ivy status after buying Dartmouth) debuted a robot kicker that never missed, while Columbia’s players read Sun Tzu’s *The Art of War* between downs. By the time Stanford, desperate to keep up, installed an AI to call plays (only to realize too late that it had read too much Kafka), the battle was already over. The Ivy League had conquered college football, proving once and for all that while money can’t buy happiness, it can absolutely buy a championship—especially if you also have the intellectual property rights to an algorithm that predicts every opposing play before it happens.

You heard it here first.
 
The ivies will wake up and decide to rule CFB. Saban comes out of retirement to be a coordinator and they use their science labs to ressurect others to coach.

In a shocking turn of events, the Ivy League schools, long known for their academic prowess and aggressively polite squash tournaments, have decided that they’ve had enough of being mocked for their football teams. Armed with endowments larger than some countries' GDPs, they pooled their billions and set out to dominate college football the only way they knew how: by outspending and out-thinking the competition. Harvard’s game plan was developed by Nobel Prize-winning economists, Yale genetically engineered a 6'8" quarterback with an IQ of 190, and Princeton devised a playbook so complex it required a PhD in theoretical physics to understand. Meanwhile, Brown’s contribution was a really inspiring spoken-word halftime show about the commercialization of sports.

At first, the traditional powerhouses laughed. Alabama’s head coach famously quipped, "You can’t buy grit!" But then the Ivy League teams started winning—big. MIT (recently granted honorary Ivy status after buying Dartmouth) debuted a robot kicker that never missed, while Columbia’s players read Sun Tzu’s *The Art of War* between downs. By the time Stanford, desperate to keep up, installed an AI to call plays (only to realize too late that it had read too much Kafka), the battle was already over. The Ivy League had conquered college football, proving once and for all that while money can’t buy happiness, it can absolutely buy a championship—especially if you also have the intellectual property rights to an algorithm that predicts every opposing play before it happens.

You heard it here first.
You win the interwebs!
 
Agreed and I knew it would never work, just would seem like a neat idea.
Actually Promotion and Relegation is kinda cool. I was referring to the SEC and B1G trying to set up their own thing and freezing out the rest of the P4 and G6
 
Promotion and relegation is the worst idea ever. it will kill college football teams.

Of course, if that's the goal, then...
Hyperbole much? :)

I think college football has already explored and adopted several "worst idea evers".

Obviously it would be impossible to institute unless every team was under one big league. I just think it would be kinda cool watching the process.
 
the first step for CFB will be surviving the NIH ruling that could devastate a bunch of colleges pretty fast.
 
I think college football has already explored and adopted several "worst idea evers".
Maybe. But relegation would be the worst of the worst.
 
I blame "Ted Lasso" for this sudden love affair with promotion and relegation. Nobody mentioned them before that show became popular.
Nah I've been in love it with it since the 90s
 
Nah I've been in love it with it since the 90s
While that is, of course, true for some individuals, it wasn't expressed as much generally until "Ted Lasso" came on.
 
We already know that Northwestern and Vanderbilt will opt out. Like you said, the fun will be watching the reactions of the uninvited who had already packed their bags. "The Commissioner wants to see you, and bring your playbook."
I believe you are wrong about these two. Northwestern is building a new football stadium and I believe they upgraded the Bball arena. Vandy, which I follow closely as an alum, is in the middle of 500 M football stadium renovation, redid the football athletic facilities and basketball, the bball facilities are insane. And is starting doubling size of the baseball stadium, which is modeled with a Fenway design,which already has training facilities that are used by both MLB alums and non alums. Their relatively new chancellor, Diermeir, who came from Stanford, considers athletic success to be important. With all of the above, Nashville will always be the best road trip for its SEC brethren, even as it becomes less of a guaranteed W.
 
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