What is the long play in CFB?

[Hoo's That]

I believe you are wrong about these two. Northwestern is building a new football stadium and I believe they upgraded the Bball arena. Vandy, which I follow closely as an alum, is in the middle of 500 M football stadium renovation, redid the football athletic facilities and basketball, the bball facilities are insane. And is starting doubling size of the baseball stadium, which is modeled with a Fenway design,which already has training facilities that are used by both MLB alums and non alums. Their relatively new chancellor, Diermeir, who came from Stanford, considers athletic success to be important. With all of the above, Nashville will always be the best road trip for its SEC brethren, even as it becomes less of a guaranteed W.

The biggest question is "Do we have the money to compete consistently?", and the second biggest is "Do we want our teams to be our students or hires who would just as soon as play for us or someone else?" I think the answer to the first question is "No," Bama, Georgia, et al., will always have more and enough money to be constantly upping the ante. And I think the answer to the second is also "No," at least deep in the hearts of the administrators. A lot of schools are going to have to decide at what point it doesn't become worth the time, effort, and resources anymore. Do they have values, and, if they do, at what point are they abandoning them? I can see, the Vanderbilts, Northwesterns, Stanfords, and, hopefully, the Virginias of the college world competing at the same level they are now, which will become the level between the semi-pros and FCS. Will there be scaling back of some other sports due to reduced resources? That's quite possible. I do think there will be a market for these regional teams.

I saw a interesting discussion on the Georgia Tech board. The South has blown up their college teams to a higher level because of the lack of professional teams until 1960. That continues because southern pro teams are not good on a consistent basis. It's not duplicated in other areas, especially the Northeast. The teams in the Midwest have climbed to the fore because of the lack of consistency of the pro teams in their areas. There are other places like that, too (Oregon and Washington state, for example).

 

[richmondcuse03]

the first step for CFB will be surviving the NIH ruling that could devastate a bunch of colleges pretty fast.

It’ll disproportionately impact large research universities more. Alabama worked up for example.

 

[upperdeck]

yeah the ivies. stan types. ones with medical colleges, pItt Iowa

they are losing site that a ton of tech makes money off the research from these colleges, Like Space X

 

[anomander]

Come 2031 when conference media contracts are up (I believe ACC has an option that year) I believe the B10/SEC will make the possible worst long-term decision and break away forming their own “semi-professional” conferences. The number of programs may vary. Could be as many as 48? They will still share media rights which should make everyone happy since a new deal will be even larger than now, but individual schools won’t share anything from on-field performance. I’d like to see a salary cap enforced but who knows. I just don’t think the current system is sustainable with the ever expanding disproportionate media revenue that will only continue to widen the gap from the have and have nots over the next 5 years. I believe Syracuse would be right on the cusp of an invite. Otherwise, i don’t see the current landscape being able to go on long-term as it currently stands.

 

[WoadBlue]

The biggest question is "Do we have the money to compete consistently?", and the second biggest is "Do we want our teams to be our students or hires who would just as soon as play for us or someone else?" I think the answer to the first question is "No," Bama, Georgia, et al., will always have more and enough money to be constantly upping the ante. And I think the answer to the second is also "No," at least deep in the hearts of the administrators. A lot of schools are going to have to decide at what point it doesn't become worth the time, effort, and resources anymore. Do they have values, and, if they do, at what point are they abandoning them? I can see, the Vanderbilts, Northwesterns, Stanfords, and, hopefully, the Virginias of the college world competing at the same level they are now, which will become the level between the semi-pros and FCS. Will there be scaling back of some other sports due to reduced resources? That's quite possible. I do think there will be a market for these regional teams.

I saw a interesting discussion on the Georgia Tech board. The South has blown up their college teams to a higher level because of the lack of professional teams until 1960. That continues because southern pro teams are not good on a consistent basis. It's not duplicated in other areas, especially the Northeast. The teams in the Midwest have climbed to the fore because of the lack of consistency of the pro teams in their areas. There are other places like that, too (Oregon and Washington state, for example).

More than after GT people are fools about almost anything other than meat and related subjects.

No entire set of NFL teams in any region has always been successful. But just think of the long runs of being very good by the Bears, Browns, Packers, Vikings, Indy Colts. Even the Bengals. None of that Pro football excellence in the midwest ed the growth of BT fandom a tiny bit.

No NFL success in the South ever has any chance to supplant any already large and passionate CFB fan base. The Titans may have the most loyally passionate NFL fan base of any franchise in the southeast, and key to that is Knoxville is more than a 3 hour drive and Vandy is a small private school.

 

[WoadBlue]

Come 2031 when conference media contracts are up (I believe ACC has an option that year) I believe the B10/SEC will make the possible worst long-term decision and break away forming their own “semi-professional” conferences. The number of programs may vary. Could be as many as 48? They will still share media rights which should make everyone happy since a new deal will be even larger than now, but individual schools won’t share anything from on-field performance. I’d like to see a salary cap enforced but who knows. I just don’t think the current system is sustainable with the ever expanding disproportionate media revenue that will only continue to widen the gap from the have and have nots over the next 5 years. I believe Syracuse would be right on the cusp of an invite. Otherwise, i don’t see the current landscape being able to go on long-term as it currently stands.

There certainly are BT and SEC leaders/power brokers who want that. They see CFB, and then also CBB, as being about getting the most money for the biggest BRANDS all the time. Eliminate al competition form those not allowed into your inner circle, and you assume you will always keep all that money. The wiser among them doubt that any such scheme can work for basketball ever and that it could work for CFB with fewer than 50 or more schools. College sports are not Pro sports, and casual fans of the sports simply are not all going to fall into line as 2 leagues act to hard everything unto themselves. They will just fade away and become Pro sports fans almost totally.

The ACC must act wisely and aggressively to make certain that if any such thing comes to pass, it has at least 3 conferences and the ACC is #3 in revenue and total football viewers, close enough in both to remain competitive.