ACC Games for Nov 6-8

[Orangezoo]

UConn 44 Umass Lowell 3….

 

[OrlandoCuse]

I’m not sure who to root for in the UNC vs KU game. I’m assuming KU because if we beat them in a non-conference neutral site game early in the year it will make more of an impact on our resume and metrics.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

UConn 44 Umass Lowell 3….

3?

I'd love to see the +/- stats on that.

 

[orange79]

NC outscoring Kansas 23-9 to take a 6 point lead with 14 minutes left.

 

[Cuse_NYC]

Kansas and UNC both underwhelming.
Peterson is very good, but when not on the court, they cannot score at all. UNC’s guards are pathetic. Wilson the frosh is fine. Hubert’s last yr imo. And likely a down yr for Self. No reason we can’t play with both.

 

[Orangezoo]

Kansas and UNC both underwhelming.
Peterson is very good, but when not on the court, they cannot score at all. UNC’s guards are pathetic. Wilson the frosh is fine. Hubert’s last yr imo. And likely a down yr for Self. No reason we can’t play with both.

Having a defensive weapon like Sadiq is ideal to help frustrate and slow down a player like Peterson

 

[orangefog]

3?

I'd love to see the +/- stats on that.

Those 3 are all free throws. No field goals, yikes

 

[Ggaenzle]

Veesaar could give us fits

 

[Cuse_NYC]

Having a defensive weapon like Sadiq is ideal to help frustrate and slow down a player like Peterson

I mean Sadiq doesn’t even start right now, but we just have to make things hard for him. There’s nothing else close to a scorer on that team.

 

[Cuse_NYC]

Veesaar could give us fits

He won’t always shoot like this, but ya they are starting to lob it to him. we generally don’t do well with those.

 

[jncuse]

I'll start a similar thread later tongiht. But in the "margin" game it appears to have been a good start for the ACC compared to last year.

Will focus on "Quad 4 Bottom" games which are teams with KP/Net's below 260, as this is the largest sample of games (15 of 23) (For now I'm using KP as a proxy for the NET)

Nov/Dec 2024 = 19.6 margin (52 games), SOS 317
Nov 2025 = 32.3 margin (15 games) SOS 320

That difference between 32.3 and 19.6 is very significant. The top conferences last year were SEC 32.7 and B12 32.4.

Not doing quite as good in what I quantify as "Q4 Top" games 161-260 - its a bit lower but 6 is a small sample.

Nov/Dec 2024 = 18.4 (29 games)
Nov 2025 = 17.2 (6 games)


Unfortunately, pretty busy, so not sure if I will have a chance to compile the data for other conferences in 2025, but will use 2024 as a comparison.

I just did the SEC so far. They are at 38.3 (vs 32.7 last year). ACC is 32.3(vs 19.6).

I wonder if the bottom Q4 schools are just getting way worse. The transfer portal has to be brutal for them - they may lose a few to power conferences, but I imagine they lose a lot of players to the better mid-majors.

 

[pearl31]

Except for Peterson, not impressed by kansas at all

 

[jncuse]

A few odd games when comparing the SEC and ACC

Auburn barely got by Bethune (in OT), Miami beat Bethune by 40
Georgia Tech barely got by Maryland Eastern Shore winning by 4. Georgia beat Maryland Eastern Shore by 65.

 

[Cuse_NYC]

This is the worst Kansas team in 20yrs

 

[orangefog]

Yeah, UNC is looking pretty good. Wilson is really good.

 

[orangefog]

Except for Peterson, not impressed by kansas at all

Bidunga can do nothing against Veesaar

 

[Cuse_NYC]

Yeah, UNC is looking pretty good. Wilson is really good.

But are they? I know they’re scoring right now. This isn’t a great UNC team either

 

[pearl31]

yeah kansas looking kind of lost defensively

 

[cuseattle]

I'm watching a little of the UNC/Kansas game.
So... there's a continuation rule in college now? Niiiice

 

[cuseattle]

This is the worst Kansas team in 20yrs

Good!

 

[RedtheGOB]

I'll start a similar thread later tongiht. But in the "margin" game it appears to have been a good start for the ACC compared to last year.

Will focus on "Quad 4 Bottom" games which are teams with KP/Net's below 260, as this is the largest sample of games (15 of 23) (For now I'm using KP as a proxy for the NET)

Nov/Dec 2024 = 19.6 margin (52 games), SOS 317
Nov 2025 = 32.3 margin (15 games) SOS 320

That difference between 32.3 and 19.6 is very significant. The top conferences last year were SEC 32.7 and B12 32.4.

Not doing quite as good in what I quantify as "Q4 Top" games 161-260 - its a bit lower but 6 is a small sample.

Nov/Dec 2024 = 18.4 (29 games)
Nov 2025 = 17.2 (6 games)


Unfortunately, pretty busy, so not sure if I will have a chance to compile the data for other conferences in 2025, but will use 2024 as a comparison.

I hope you do. i asked about this somewhere else earlier. We need a whole thread on the metrics foe the cupcakes. We have 8 of them and need to blow them out.

How much does the blowout need to be though? Obvi more than 10. 20 maybe not enough tho. Hard to tell. Teams are out there trying to win by 50.

 

[RedtheGOB]

Except for Peterson, not impressed by kansas at all

Yea Kansas Getting crushed on the boards and the lobs. They’ll prob fix that but I’d rather see a team struggling on Defense than playing solid defense.

Hate them both but it’s best for the ACC that UNC wins this game now. And Duke took care of Texas handily too. ACC will hopefully take all the B12 bids.

 

[orangefog]

Bill Self is going to take a leave of absence for the rest of the year.

 

[Ggaenzle]

He won’t always shoot like this, but ya they are starting to lob it to him. we generally don’t do well with those.

Ya he’s also erased bidunga

 

[Niastri]

I'm watching a little of the UNC/Kansas game.
So... there's a continuation rule in college now? Niiiice

ACC officials go brrrrrr... A hand check at mid court is going to be an and1 for Boozer every time.