ACC, PAC-12, and BIG alliance / conference realignment

[baggerbob]

I hope FSU loses every game they ever play now in all sports and hope they leave the ACC and end up with no where to go and become independent. Live life in exile. I wouldn’t appease them at all as they are leaving regardless as they said. I’ve seen posts from FSU on other boards that say they think all of the added money from the 3 new teams should just go to them as they are the mighty FSU. “Bleep” FSU.

If they had been the Bobby Bowden FSU, and Miami were the bad boys the ACC would have been ESPN'S choice and not the SEC.

 

[gmoney44]

Appropriate, since today is the 2 year anniversary of the alliance.

The alliance held up about as well as the non aggression pact between Germany and the Soviet Union.

 

[All4SU]

You mean that North Carolina will disband the NC ACC mafia to become Michigan, Ohio’s etc’s Maryland? If the BIG is their landing place bet Maryland hasn’t forgetter UNC and will be ready to bless their little hearts.

Yeah, that’s another part of this whole thing that seems off.

 

[dasher]

The alliance held up about as well as the non aggression pact between Germany and the Soviet Union.

Swear to God, I was thinking the same thing.

 

[qdawgg]

I don’t know how good it’s going to be long term adding Calford or whatever we’re calling them. But what I do know, is when I look at a schedule in a few years and see SU is playing Stanford. That gets me excited even if they suck. It’s at least a name. Cal isn’t a bad name either. Also why I was hoping we’d have been able to nab Oregon. These are brand names. Tell me we’re adding Uconn, Temple, or some other random crap school….. blah. It’s one thing to play them on the OOC schedule but to make them part of the conference. Come on. So I’m not disappointed by all of this.

 

[Scotch]

I would also put UVA over FSU for the big 10 and maybe Miami

I always heard UNC and UVA were the top targets for B1G, but after the lack of interest in Stanford it feels like the calculus has changed for UVA. Obviously still attractive but with football eyeballs driving the bus it would be very interesting to see where they are in the pecking order.

 

[rocklloyd]

There’s one direct each way, every day. I use it for my family fairly regularly. It’s an early flight down, and an evening flight back up north. It’s a really nice flight actually.

Great flight. I go to Mexico for work via dallas quite a bit on that flight.

 

[Moontan]

I prefer 2-7/7. The schedules for the in-state SEC opponent schools (Clemson/GTech/FSU) will get tougher, but with the 12-team playoff, you can afford 2 losses.

Loserville says "Hello".

 

[Moontan]

To bring this thread full circle... apparently the "alliance" between the ACC, Pac 12 and B1G is that the B1G and ACC will acquire six Pac 12 teams.

Good work, everyone.

B1G : 4
Bxx : 4
ACC : 2
MWC : 2

 

[Cheriehoop]

An opinion piece with points that have been echoed here too.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/24/opinions/college-football-conferences-realignment-pac-12-acc-sec-big-12-leitch/index.html

 

[orangenauburn]

I always heard UNC and UVA were the top targets for B1G, but after the lack of interest in Stanford it feels like the calculus has changed for UVA. Obviously still attractive but with football eyeballs driving the bus it would be very interesting to see where they are in the pecking order.

I'd bet Louisville is pretty high up on the pecking order. Quite possible a Big10 target, definitely a Big12 target, even could see them in SEC some day.

 

[gmoney44]

I'd bet Louisville is pretty high up on the pecking order. Quite possible a Big10 target, definitely a Big12 target, even could see them in SEC some day.

I don’t think the Big 10 has any interest in Louisville. They don’t fit their profile. The SEC already owns the small population state of Kentucky. I see little benefit for the SEC. I’m sure the Big 12 would add them. They fit perfectly in that league.

 

[NJCuse97]

Anyone think having Calford helps us garner a relationship with Apple? Might that help with streaming cord cutters, verified eyes and ultimately revenue (yes I’m getting ahead of myself)?

 

[phil77]

I don’t know how good it’s going to be long term adding Calford or whatever we’re calling them. But what I do know, is when I look at a schedule in a few years and see SU is playing Stanford. That gets me excited even if they suck. It’s at least a name. Cal isn’t a bad name either. Also why I was hoping we’d have been able to nab Oregon. These are brand names. Tell me we’re adding Uconn, Temple, or some other random crap school….. blah. It’s one thing to play them on the OOC schedule but to make them part of the conference. Come on. So I’m not disappointed by all of this.

I am excited because I live about 2 hours away from each campus Finally some conference games

 

[Tango32]

Anybody know why specifically Cal? Stanford I can get behind, SMU is intriguing, but man Cal does absolutely nothing for me. I'd rather swap Cal for WSU or OSU. Both are better programs and move the needle more for me than Cal does.

 

[PhatOrange]

Disney, Amazon reportedly in talks about ESPN streaming partnership

ESPN is considering charging between $20 and $35 amonth for the new streaming service, which could make it the most expensive streaming service in the US, the report added.

nypost.com

 

[OburgOrange]

 

[qdawgg]

Conference realignment is bonkers in general. I’m not sure anything is doing is “bonkers”. Would it have been better to have some other schools that joined the SEC or B10, yeah. But that wasn’t happening. These are the options available. It is what it is. Calling it bonkers is silly considering what every other conference is doing, except the SEC, who’s approached this whole process about as intelligently as you can.

 

[FreakTalksAboutSU]

When do we lose the shock awe and exclamation points?

Teams are cross country now. It's a thing. It's dumb, but the shock and awe should have worn off by now.

 

[JimBoston]

This is why Cal/Stanford (and SMU) makes no sense for the ACC. Small increase in dollars and increased travels costs for all sports, like sending the soccer team to Stanford or the women's volleyball team to Cal,... And, they will dilute NCAA basketball payouts (they aren't good) and probably CFP payouts. If adding them meant increasing payouts by $20 million per school, sure, add them, but a net few million per school, hell no.

 

[Chris02M]

This is why Cal/Stanford (and SMU) makes no sense for the ACC. Small increase in dollars and increased travels costs for all sports, like sending the soccer team to Stanford or the women's volleyball team to Cal,... And, they will dilute NCAA basketball payouts (they aren't good) and probably CFP payouts. If adding them meant increasing payouts by $20 million per school, sure, add them, but a net few million per school, hell no.

its not a small amount of dollars, with acc network carriage it will be significant depending on the agreed upon split of extra money

 

[TexanMark]

There’s a direct flight from Syracuse to Dallas every Thursday. Easy trip to SMU.

Actually a daily nonstop to DFW

 

[TexanMark]

I would hope, but I don’t know. This flight is never booked up very far out. And it’s usually, astonishingly enough, cheaper to fly (nonstop) than it is to buy many others with connections. I would assume the increase in travel between the two cities may cause American to look at another flight, or maybe another airline to start one. But I also have no idea how many gates Hancock has available or whether it makes business sense to stop another connection to make a new one from SYR to DAL.

Changing topics, after living on the west coast and now Texas, I’d selfishly love to be able to watch a local Cuse game with my kids.

Micron and other factories coming in over the next 10 years will help Syracuse add several more nonstop cities out west. MSP (full time), SFO and SEA would be my guesses and maybe PHX and LAX

 

[TexanMark]

They aren't so bad. They have had 4 straight winning seasons and have been ranked 3 of the past 4 years.

That said, it appears the biggest reason they were picked is because they are the only school out there desperate enough to join a P4 conference that they will play for nothing.

Still wondering if another school sees what SMU does and steps up to try and get the same deal. The ACC could really use one more to get to an even number for football.

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Who else has so much "FU money"?

Rice? maybe but no way they can play Big Boy FB

Liberty...but they are politically radioactive

Boise St? hmmm maybe

 

[TexanMark]

That's what I figured. Not sure I would be super excited as a President/AD of Cuse, Wake, Pitt, etc.

FSU is not going anywhere for a while and even with this deal is still gone ASAP.

SU's cost factor for travel is well under $2M...with adding these schools. They'll at most only travel out west in FB every 2 or 3 years