ACC, PAC-12, and BIG alliance / conference realignment

[721Comstock]

The PAC 1 & 2.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

The PAC 1 & 2.

TuPac?

 

[Hoo's That]

Stanford and SMU have published pictures of the "ACC" on their b-ball courts. Haven't seen one from Cal yet.

 

[721Comstock]

Stanford and SMU have published pictures of the "ACC" on their b-ball courts. Haven't seen one from Cal yet.

Once again, we’re waiting for…

Cal to get right back into this thing!

 

[rocklloyd]

Once again, we’re waiting for…

Cal to get right back into this thing!

As soon as crabbe heats up.

 

[Dinkyspond]

Once again, we’re waiting for…

Cal to get right back into this thing!

This never gets old...LOL

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[sufandu]

So, did the SEC force them to give up their network?

 

[orange79]

So, did the SEC force them to give up their network?

The SEC has their own network. And there was no way TX was going to be voted in if they had their own network that would have competed with the SECN.

 

[Hoo's That]

So, did the SEC force them to give up their network?

Yes. Plus, it was a money-loser for ESPN because of an NCAA ruling when it started. They had planned to show Texas HS championships, highlights of UT recruits, and similar, but the NCAA ruled doing that would be considered a major recruiting violation, so it wasn't done.

 

[All4SU]

Yes. Plus, it was a money-loser for ESPN because of an NCAA ruling when it started. They had planned to show Texas HS championships, highlights of UT recruits, and similar, but the NCAA ruled doing that would be considered a major recruiting violation, so it wasn't done.

What’s a “recruiting violation?” Is that still a thing?

 

[Hoo's That]

What’s a “recruiting violation?” Is that still a thing?

Schools are still not allowed to discuss recruits in any way until they sign a grant-in-aid or enroll. They can still lose scholarships for doing it. We see it every day. Recruits are the ones who announce they received an offer letter from some school or that they are committed to sign with a school. The coaching staffs and administrators don't say word one about either until the signed Letter of Intent is in hand on national signing days or registration day has passed and the athlete is now attending class.

There are still "dead periods" when schools are not allowed to contact recruits. A coach can still be barred from recruiting off-campus, etc. for violations.

 

[All4SU]

Schools are still not allowed to discuss recruits in any way until they sign a grant-in-aid or enroll. They can still lose scholarships for doing it. We see it every day. Recruits are the ones who announce they received an offer letter from some school or that they are committed to sign with a school. The coaching staffs and administrators don't say word one about either until the signed Letter of Intent is in hand on national signing days or registration day has passed and the athlete is now attending class.

There are still "dead periods" when schools are not allowed to contact recruits. A coach can still be barred from recruiting off-campus, etc. for violations.

{sigh}
Okay my sarcasm font button must be in the fritz today. Nevertheless, as long as you bring it up, let’s discuss your very first sentence.

Schools are still not allowed to discuss recruits in any way until they sign a grant-in-aid or enroll.

How does an NIL consortium learn about which recruits a coach is pursuing? Do they read boards like this and then track these kids down to make offers? Or does a coach/school official approach the group and say, “Hey it would really help me out if you talked with this kid and put together a nice package for him.” OR, does the coach say to the recruit, “I am not allowed to have anything to do with NIL. You’ll have to talk to them yourselves. Good luck.”

You can understand my confusion, if a coach cannot even discuss a recruit in any way. It certainly makes things complicated. Almost like it’s ripe for abuse.

 

[sufandu]

The SEC has their own network. And there was no way TX was going to be voted in if they had their own network that would have competed with the SECN.

I knew the SEC has their own network. I just didn't know if Texas had worked a deal to keep theirs.

 

[Hoo's That]

{sigh}
Okay my sarcasm font button must be in the fritz today. Nevertheless, as long as you bring it up, let’s discuss your very first sentence.

How does an NIL consortium learn about which recruits a coach is pursuing? Do they read boards like this and then track these kids down to make offers? Or does a coach/school official approach the group and say, “Hey it would really help me out if you talked with this kid and put together a nice package for him.” OR, does the coach say to the recruit, “I am not allowed to have anything to do with NIL. You’ll have to talk to them yourselves. Good luck.”

You can understand my confusion, if a coach cannot even discuss a recruit in any way. It certainly makes things complicated. Almost like it’s ripe for abuse.

"Supposedly" the schools still aren't allowed to discuss NIL money until they sign. What got SMU the death penalty apparently would be OK now because the boosters made all the approaches and the coaches weren't involved IIRC. People running the NIL combines read recruits' social media. There no longer is anything to stop an unofficial NIL combine from approaching a recruit who has announced they've received an offer letter.

 

[Hoo's That]

I knew the SEC has their own network. I just didn't know if Texas had worked a deal to keep theirs.

The biggest thing working against having that happen was that ESPN wanted to kill the LHN even more than the SEC could have wanted Texas to end it.

 

[All4SU]

"Supposedly" the schools still aren't allowed to discuss NIL money until they sign. What got SMU the death penalty apparently would be OK now because the boosters made all the approaches and the coaches weren't involved IIRC. People running the NIL combines read recruits' social media. There no longer is anything to stop an unofficial NIL combine from approaching a recruit who has announced they've received an offer letter.

Color me cynical.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

Stanford and SMU have published pictures of the "ACC" on their b-ball courts. Haven't seen one from Cal yet.

 

[sufandu]

{sigh}
Okay my sarcasm font button must be in the fritz today. Nevertheless, as long as you bring it up, let’s discuss your very first sentence.

How does an NIL consortium learn about which recruits a coach is pursuing? Do they read boards like this and then track these kids down to make offers? Or does a coach/school official approach the group and say, “Hey it would really help me out if you talked with this kid and put together a nice package for him.” OR, does the coach say to the recruit, “I am not allowed to have anything to do with NIL. You’ll have to talk to them yourselves. Good luck.”

You can understand my confusion, if a coach cannot even discuss a recruit in any way. It certainly makes things complicated. Almost like it’s ripe for abuse.

How does the rule read? They can't discuss the recruit with the media/public, but can't coaches now be involved with NIL? I thought that was a change that happened a few months ago.

 

[All4SU]

How does the rule read? They can't discuss the recruit with the media/public, but can't coaches now be involved with NIL? I thought that was a change that happened a few months ago.

You may be right. I honestly don’t know. But my question would be, isn’t talking about players with some groups of alumni, donors, supporters, etc., essentially the same as speaking with the public?

 

[kirbivore]

{sigh}
Okay my sarcasm font button must be in the fritz today. Nevertheless, as long as you bring it up, let’s discuss your very first sentence.

How does an NIL consortium learn about which recruits a coach is pursuing? Do they read boards like this and then track these kids down to make offers? Or does a coach/school official approach the group and say, “Hey it would really help me out if you talked with this kid and put together a nice package for him.” OR, does the coach say to the recruit, “I am not allowed to have anything to do with NIL. You’ll have to talk to them yourselves. Good luck.”

You can understand my confusion, if a coach cannot even discuss a recruit in any way. It certainly makes things complicated. Almost like it’s ripe for abuse.

When I form my lottery funded NIL group I'm going rogue and contacting prospective players w/o talking to anyone on the hill.

 

[sufandu]

You may be right. I honestly don’t know. But my question would be, isn’t talking about players with some groups of alumni, donors, supporters, etc., essentially the same as speaking with the public?

In this crazy illogical world of college sports, who knows?

 

[shantydaze]

Not exactly true as the former Pac schools do not officially join the B1G until August 2nd. Odd as Cal and Stanford did officially join the ACC on July 1st.

 

[HRE Otto IV]

Yormark says a lot of dumb things. Reminds me of Aresco a bit.

 

[SU94]

Yormark says a lot of dumb things. Reminds me of Aresco a bit.

He and his conference are also not terribly strong spellers: