ACC takes spot on Big Monday

[joct]

Probably thought it was going to happen anyway, but this confirms it. SU listed twice.

http://espnmediazone.com/us/press-r...-showcase-acc-big-12-mens-hoops-doubleheader/

 

[shandeezy7]

 

[OttoMets]

Hope this year's Notre Dame Big Monday game draws better than it did 52 weeks earlier.

Damn. Kind of a lackluster line-up. Maybe the weekend matchups will make up for it.

 

[General20]

Wow very striking. Big Monday gets hurt a LOT by the death of the Big East. The ACC might be the best basketball conference there is now, but it wont come anywhere close to the depth of quality the Big East had in its prime.

 

[Madbiker]

3x -- UNC, Virginia
2x -- Syracuse, Notre Dame, Maryland, Duke
1x -- Pitt, FSU
4x -- Kansas (welcome to the Kansas Game of the Week).

 

[cto]

3x -- UNC, Virginia
2x -- Syracuse, Notre Dame, Maryland, Duke
1x -- Pitt, FSU
4x -- Kansas (welcome to the Kansas Game of the Week).

There's not much else in the Big 12 to show there. KU gets all those slots by default

 

[OttosBestFriend]

The ACC might be the best basketball conference there is now, but it wont come anywhere close to the depth of quality the Big East had in its prime.

Disagree.

When you swap in Louisville for Maryland, you have 4 of, arguably, the top 10 programs in all of college basketball.

When did the Big East have that?

Don't get me wrong, I don't think the ACC is better going away, but IMO lining up the top 8 programs of each conference gives you this:

ACC: Duke, UNC, Syracuse, Louisville, Pitt, Notre Dame, NC State, Virginia > BIG EAST: Syracuse, Louisville, UConn, Pitt, Georgetown, Notre Dame, Villanova, Marquette

Or, to make it easier, eliminate 'Cuse, Louisville, Pitt, & Notre Dame (as they're simply switching sides) and look at the top 4 remaining programs and compare them historically.

Duke > UConn
UNC > Georgetown
NC State = Nova
Virginia = Marquette

Then if you consider that the next few teams in the ACC would be Miami, Florida State, Georgia Tech, & Wake Forest, the depth of the ACC compares quite well to the Big East whose 9-12 would probably be: WVU, Cincy, St. Johns, and Providence.

And the 13-16 programs of the Big East (Seton Hall, Rutgers, DePaul & USF) are decidedly worse than the bottom three programs of the ACC (Boston College, VTech & Clemson)

 

[Knicks411]

Did I miss the schedule coming out for the entire season?

 

[Garbs]

Did I miss the schedule coming out for the entire season?

I believe matchups, but dates and times will be later this month.

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[Knicks411]

I believe matchups, but dates and times will be later this month.

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Yeah matchups are out, i did know that, but I hadn't seen any dates until the BIg Monday schedule. Just checking

 

[senorpalmer]

Disagree.

When you swap in Louisville for Maryland, you have 4 of, arguably, the top 10 programs in all of college basketball.

When did the Big East have that?

Don't get me wrong, I don't think the ACC is better going away, but IMO lining up the top 8 programs of each conference gives you this:

ACC: Duke, UNC, Syracuse, Louisville, Pitt, Notre Dame, NC State, Virginia > BIG EAST: Syracuse, Louisville, UConn, Pitt, Georgetown, Notre Dame, Villanova, Marquette

Or, to make it easier, eliminate 'Cuse, Louisville, Pitt, & Notre Dame (as they're simply switching sides) and look at the top 4 remaining programs and compare them historically.

Duke > UConn
UNC > Georgetown
NC State = Nova
Virginia = Marquette

Then if you consider that the next few teams in the ACC would be Miami, Florida State, Georgia Tech, & Wake Forest, the depth of the ACC compares quite well to the Big East whose 9-12 would probably be: WVU, Cincy, St. Johns, and Providence.

And the 13-16 programs of the Big East (Seton Hall, Diggers, DePaul & USF) are decidedly worse than the bottom three programs of the ACC (Boston College, VTech & Clemson)

I'm not sure if you're basing your comparisons on the coming year, but otherwise Marquette and Nova have been bringing more to the table than Virginia and Nc St for years. Games involving Duke, Nc, and the new Big East invites are all very intriguing, but the rest of the league is just kinda meh imo. We had been used to a league where 8 bids was the norm, in some years even more, which gave the league more inventory to create interesting matchups (though the top was not as strong as what the acc will be). It may not seem fair, but acc big monday would do well to go the 'kansas route' so to speak and feature its power teams more frequently instead of spreading the exposure around. It certainly needs to be better than this initial slate.

 

[PeteCalvin]

3x -- UNC, Virginia
2x -- Syracuse, Notre Dame, Maryland, Duke
1x -- Pitt, FSU
4x -- Kansas (welcome to the Kansas Game of the Week).

Kansas.

 

[Knicks411]

I'm not sure if you're basing your comparisons on the coming year, but otherwise Marquette and Nova have been bringing more to the table than Virginia and Nc St for years. Games involving Duke, Nc, and the new Big East invites are all very intriguing, but the rest of the league is just kinda meh imo. We had been used to a league where 8 bids was the norm, in some years even more, which gave the league more inventory to create interesting matchups (though the top was not as strong as what the acc will be). It may not seem fair, but acc big monday would do well to go the 'kansas route' so to speak and feature its power teams more frequently instead of spreading the exposure around. It certainly needs to be better than this initial slate.

Florida State has been pretty solid the last few years, but otherwise, I do tend to agree.

But I think the rest of the league is getting stronger. Tony Bennett is a good coach, UVA seems to be going in the right direction. I think it will end up being an 8 bid or so league for the most part

 

[PoppyHart]

Not really a great ACC game in there.

 

[senorpalmer]

Florida State has been pretty solid the last few years, but otherwise, I do tend to agree.

But I think the rest of the league is getting stronger. Tony Bennett is a good coach, UVA seems to be going in the right direction. I think it will end up being an 8 bid or so league for the most part

Its certainly possible that others in the league will improve. Actually inevitable, with the question being how sustainable that is. I tend to wait and see vs. assuming great things are ahead for not so great programs (not saying you're doing this). I do recall a number of folks here raving about mark gottfried and nc st being on the verge of powerhousedom, that looks like unintentional comedy now.

 

[dasher]

Kansas.

we don't go for that kind of talk here peter.

 

[Knicks411]

Its certainly possible that others in the league will improve. Actually inevitable, with the question being how sustainable that is. I tend to wait and see vs. assuming great things are ahead for not so great programs (not saying you're doing this). I do recall a number of folks here raving about mark gottfried and nc st being on the verge of powerhousedom, that looks like unintentional comedy now.

Hahah yeah, I was thinking about including him as one of the up and coming teams (i probably would have 12 months ag0...).

It's going to be more carried by the Big east teams though, along with Duke and UNC, of course. But now you have a group of 6 teams who are almost always NCAA tournament teams.

 

[senorpalmer]

Hahah yeah, I was thinking about including him as one of the up and coming teams (i probably would have 12 months ag0...).

It's going to be more carried by the Big east teams though, along with Duke and UNC, of course. But now you have a group of 6 teams who are almost always NCAA tournament teams.

Yeah. The real selling point of the new acc for the foreseeable future will be that in many years they can boast a top 4 that rivals a national final 4.

 

[kirbivore]

3x -- UNC, Virginia
2x -- Syracuse, Notre Dame, Maryland, Duke
1x -- Pitt, FSU
4x -- Kansas (welcome to the Kansas Game of the Week).

Kansas has locked down that Monday 9PM time slot going back many years.

 

[PeteCalvin]

we don't go for that kind of talk here peter.

Since when are we only ""?

 

[HoustonCuse]

The big hole in that is Rivalry Week - we have nobody to play that Monday night anymore. It was usually UConn on the Monday and GTown on the Saturday.

 

[senorpalmer]

The big hole in that is Rivalry Week - we have nobody to play that Monday night anymore. It was usually UConn on the Monday and GTown on the Saturday.

Maybe they can pit SU against their new "rival" BC. Ugh.

 

[Alsacs]

The big hole in that is Rivalry Week - we have nobody to play that Monday night anymore. It was usually UConn on the Monday and GTown on the Saturday.

Actually the past 4 years since 2009 we have been playing UConn on Wednesday of Rivalry Week as basically the warmup to Duke-North Carolina. I believe SU will be playing Pitt or Boston College now during rivalry week.

 

[Garbs]

Actually the past 4 years since 2009 we have been playing UConn on Wednesday of Rivalry Week as basically the warmup to Duke-North Carolina. I believe SU will be playing Pitt or Boston College now during rivalry week.

Louisville next year

 

[TexanMark]

Hey Oliver how is that B12 thing working out for you? Glad you thought Navy and Air Force were better programs than Syracuse. Enjoy playing on FOXSportsNowhere

Since joining the B12 and unleashing the trailer trash Internet crusaders of realignment: FB down, BB Down, 3 straight losses to Cuse and Travel expenses way up.

At least you have Big Monday...and all that exposure.

2014 Big 12 Big Monday schedule
Jan. 13: Kansas at Iowa State
Jan. 20: Baylor at Kansas
Jan. 27: Oklahoma State at Oklahoma
Feb. 3: Iowa State at Oklahoma State
Feb. 10: Kansas at Kansas State
Feb. 17: Oklahoma State at Baylor
Feb. 24: Oklahoma at Kansas
March 3: Kansas State at Oklahoma State