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ACC Teleconference Week 2 - Sept 6

You know better than I. But in the world where info about a players availability is more likely to sprout from Twitter or Instagram - maybe the job needs to be shifted to accommodate actual things.
Yeah, but Twitter and Instagram aren't fact, especially if it requires speculation. If you ask Babers and he's unclear, you can say that someone's Twitter says "He's healthy", but weigh it against the coach's word of "unclear." It's all about covering bases. Fans can speculate, but beat writers have to weigh everything they've been told, even if it contradicts. Hence the boring, same questions every week.
 
Yeah, but Twitter and Instagram aren't fact, especially if it requires speculation. If you ask Babers and he's unclear, you can say that someone's Twitter says "He's healthy", but weigh it against the coach's word of "unclear." It's all about covering bases. Fans can speculate, but beat writers have to weigh everything they've been told, even if it contradicts. Hence the boring, same questions every week.

I get it. But that's if he ever confirms - which he's said he won't. Bailey can cover all his bases if he wants - but if he never gets any info - it's not covering anything. It's just wasting a question. And then he'll complain about access.
 
And that's his prerogative not to respond. But it's Bailey's job to ask the question for the reasons I already said.

Sure, if he were to get 20 questions, that is totally his job. He gets one or two and he asked the same question the day before. I'd rather him move on, and try and get some more info on the game plan.
 
Yeah, but Twitter and Instagram aren't fact, especially if it requires speculation. If you ask Babers and he's unclear, you can say that someone's Twitter says "He's healthy", but weigh it against the coach's word of "unclear." It's all about covering bases. Fans can speculate, but beat writers have to weigh everything they've been told, even if it contradicts. Hence the boring, same questions every week.

Also - bottom-line is that the school has decided that it's the final word on announcing injuries. That's clear both in that they've said it and that they've not moved from it week to week. The job changed, but Bailey is rolling like they are going to tell him. Twitter means everyone has access to sharing whatever they want. Why cede that to reporters unless you have to?
 
I get it. But that's if he ever confirms - which he's said he won't. Bailey can cover all his bases if he wants - but if he never gets any info - it's not covering anything. It's just wasting a question. And then he'll complain about access.
Sure, if he were to get 20 questions, that is totally his job. He gets one or two and he asked the same question the day before. I'd rather him move on, and try and get some more info on the game plan.
It's not wasting a question. As I said before, it's better to have the coach on record saying, "I'm not telling" than to have no idea. I get that it's frustrating, but it's literally Bailey's job to ask that question. Like, his editor will yell at him if he doesn't ask the question.

He asks the question, it gets on the record that Babers isn't saying, and then Axe and Bailey and Mink and Carlson and whomever else can say for all of the preview stories leading up to the game that Cordy's status is unclear, but he did practice. That question has a TON of value, even if it doesn't get a straight answer.
 
It's not wasting a question. As I said before, it's better to have the coach on record saying, "I'm not telling" than to have no idea. I get that it's frustrating, but it's literally Bailey's job to ask that question. Like, his editor will yell at him if he doesn't ask the question.

He asks the question, it gets on the record that Babers isn't saying, and then Axe and Bailey and Mink and Carlson and whomever else can say for all of the preview stories leading up to the game that Cordy's status is unclear, but he did practice. That question has a TON of value, even if it doesn't get a straight answer.

We'll likely not agree - and you have more experience here.

So one guy wastes his one question on something so all his coworkers can report that they don't know and Babers isn't saying either? "We've confirmed that the policy is that they don't tell us." Wouldn't it just be better to say "it's university policy not to release the info"?

(Babers didn't say he practiced - he said he was at practice)

I'll let it go, man. I just want info!
 
We'll likely not agree - and you have more experience here.

So one guy wastes his one question on something so all his coworkers can report that they don't know and Babers isn't saying either? "We've confirmed that the policy is that they don't tell us." Wouldn't it just be better to say "it's university policy not to release the info"?

(Babers didn't say he practiced - he said he was at practice)

I'll let it go, man. I just want info!
I get it. I really do. I want info too. I'm just telling you how the sausage gets made!
 
Atlantic Coast Conference Football Media Conference
Wednesday September 6, 2017
Dino Babers
Syracuse

DINO BABERS: Well, we had a fine contest against Central Connecticut State and got banged up, good football team, got off to a fast start, and things worked out our way. We're looking forward to the contest against Middle Tennessee, and we know that they've got a fine club.

Q. To look into this defense that you'll be going up against, obviously a former head coach of Syracuse, Scott Shafer, and likes to blitz a lot, what have you taken from the film defensively?
DINO BABERS: Well, first of all, I know Coach Shafer is coming back and it's going to be a fantastic contest. I just want to take my hat off to Coach Stockstill. He's got a fantastic football team, he's got a fantastic quarterback, who happens to be his son, and I know that this game is bigger for those football players on his team and my team than it is for Coach Shafer coming back or some kind of anything else that has to do with Syracuse and Middle Tennessee. I think it's between the young men, and I think it's going to be a fine contest.

Q. And then as far as what's going to be happening at the game honoring a team that went undefeated 30 years ago with guys like Robert Drummond that were local to the community and will be honored that day, just what you can say about having that ceremony and honoring the history of Syracuse as you obviously prepare for a positive present and even a better future.
DINO BABERS: Well, what a team. The 1987 team completely undefeated, finishing up fourth in the nation. Don McPherson ending up second to the Heisman Trophy balloting, and then going down and playing that Auburn team to I want to say it was a 13-13, 16-16 tie. Fabulous season, a team that should be honored, and hopefully we can make them proud that day.

Q. How do you handle some emotions that might be there with players who were recruited or coached by Coach Shafer going into this game?
DINO BABERS: Well, you know, I think it's going to be one of those situations where, you know, those guys want to go out and prove themselves. Coach Shafer has recruited and coached most of the guys on this football team, and it's an opportunity for them to go out and kind of show their dad what they've grown up to be, what kind of men they've grown up to be, so it should be fun for him and for them I'd imagine.

Q. When you looked at the evaluation from last week, what did you come away with in terms of what Dungey was able to do in his first game of the season?
DINO BABERS: He graded out very high for us. It was a very high grade for a quarterback coming back his second year in his very first game. It might be the highest grade we've ever given a quarterback. So he had a fantastic game, and we would expect for him to continue on that path and hopefully come out of this thing unscathed.

Q. Any kind of update on Antwan? Has he been able to practice this week?
DINO BABERS: Well, I'm not going to talk about who's been at practice, who hasn't been able to practice, but he's been out there, and we're hoping for the best for Mr. Cordy.

Q. What do you mean when you say he's been out there?
DINO BABERS: He's been at practice.

Q. But you don't want to say how much he has or hasn't practice, I've got you.
DINO BABERS: Yes, sir.

Q. And then on another note, we saw Rex Culpepper on kickoff returns and kickoff coverage, certainly not a common role for a quarterback. How did that come about, and what does he bring to specials?
DINO BABERS: You know, I just think that for Rex's development, we need to try to get him on the field as much as possible. Obviously he had a decent showing playing quarterback for us later on in the second half, but any time that you can step on the field, it's going to help you as a football player, and it's going to help your confidence. You're talking about a guy that's not -- it's very unusual, very strong in the upper body, very strong in the lower body, very intelligent, tough kid, and just too tough of a kid and too good of an athlete to be standing next to us waiting for an opportunity to play quarterback. We've got to get him on the field, and by getting him on the field, I think that's even going to help him when he does play quarterback for us.

Q. On senior linebacker Zaire Franklin, what was your first impression of him if you recall that, and how does he look on the field?
DINO BABERS: My first impression of Zaire Franklin was a very serious person that goes about his business and very well-rounded individual on and off the football field. Obviously he's been a two-time team captain with an opportunity to be three. He's a very solid individual, a very solid player, and I think he's been playing extremely well on the field.

Q. How does Austin Valdez look so far, both in practice and then in his first game with a few tackles?
DINO BABERS: Valdez has been a backup for us. You know, he's getting in there playing some linebackers. We're very deep at that position. I think he has a lot of value for us on special teams, and if we get in a situation where maybe somebody gets banged up, I think he could come in for a game or two and help out that depth with a couple of starts.

Q. Before the season you were discussing Steve Ishmael and how you felt like a lot of the guys improved in the receiving corps but maybe none more than Steve. What did you take away from his first game and his performance and what he did against Central Connecticut State?
DINO BABERS: Well, I think what he should have done. Athletically he was a little bit better than those guys, and he needed to peacock a little bit, show off, and he did. He ran around, he made plays. He was very aggressive with the ball in the air. You could see all the hard work over the summertime had paid off him between and the quarterback. They had a little chemistry going on, so to speak, and hopefully that'll continue throughout the season.

Q. And then as far as Jordan Martin, who stood in with Antwan Cordy going out, I know he came in as a transfer from Toledo and we hadn't seen him in a Syracuse uniform until that moment. How did you feel his debut went?
DINO BABERS: You know, just okay. Cordy is one of the best players on our football team, so that position has been doing fabulous things for us. I thought Jordan came in and did a solid job, and if he's needed to play there again, hopefully he'll continue to get better and better.

Q. Just wondering how much of a difference now that you're no longer a rookie coach at Syracuse, how much of a difference has there been this year trying to teach structure, scheme, philosophy, culture, as opposed to being a new coach?
DINO BABERS: You know, I think that the biggest advantage of going through the second year is going through the conference the second year. I've been a head coach for a while. I've taught culture for a while. But the biggest thing is having the experience, and once you get back into the ACC and playing ACC games and playing the ACC Atlantic games, seeing the football team, knowing what you need, seeing the other football teams, knowing what you need in recruiting, and going against those coaches one time really gives you a lot of experience when you're setting up the game plan the second time around.

Q. From the last six weeks or so, what's maybe the most improved aspect of your team now versus day one of camp?
DINO BABERS: I think the biggest thing is there's a swag about them. I think there's a confidence about them. I think they realize they have an opportunity to be good. I don't think they believe that they're there yet, but if they continue to work hard and take care of their business on and off the football field, that this could be a special year. We have a chance for it to be a special year. Now we've got to go out there and we've got to do it.
 
It's not wasting a question. As I said before, it's better to have the coach on record saying, "I'm not telling" than to have no idea. I get that it's frustrating, but it's literally Bailey's job to ask that question. Like, his editor will yell at him if he doesn't ask the question.

He asks the question, it gets on the record that Babers isn't saying, and then Axe and Bailey and Mink and Carlson and whomever else can say for all of the preview stories leading up to the game that Cordy's status is unclear, but he did practice. That question has a TON of value, even if it doesn't get a straight answer.
Isn't it already on record if he asked it the day before?
 
What if the situation changed? Even if you know what Babers is going to say, you can't anticipate what he's going to say.
Honest question, does he have a limited number of questions he gets to ask? If he knows the probable answer to one that Dino answered the day before, and he knows he only gets one or two shots, doesn't it make sense to ask something else that hasn't been asked to possibly get new information that hasn't been addressed?
 
Honest question, does he have a limited number of questions he gets to ask? If he knows the probable answer to one that Dino answered the day before, and he knows he only gets one or two shots, doesn't it make sense to ask something else that hasn't been asked to possibly get new information that hasn't been addressed?

During the presser Babers stated that he didn't have an answer yet because the doctors evaluation wasn't complete yet. So of course he asked the question again as a few days had gone by and there should be a determination of injury. He could have gotten a different answer to his question and it is his job to follow up the answer from Monday and ask the question again whether some of you like it or not.
 
Honest question, does he have a limited number of questions he gets to ask? If he knows the probable answer to one that Dino answered the day before, and he knows he only gets one or two shots, doesn't it make sense to ask something else that hasn't been asked to possibly get new information that hasn't been addressed?
I can't speak to press conference protocol (e.g., how many questions you get to ask).

As a journalist, there's no such thing as a probable answer. You can't print "We assume that Cordy isn't practicing." And if you don't ask about Cordy's status, you can't guess. If you don't ask, you have to say you're unsure of his status or not mention it at all. However, if you ask and Babers says he ain't telling, you can say Babers declined to comment or that his status is unclear. I know that doesn't sound like a big difference, but to a journalist, it is.

And also, as I tried to get at before, the question about Cordy has way more value for pregame coverage than asking about scheme or Shafer or other storylines. Sure, there's lots of things to ask, but people are far more curious about Cordy's status than hypotheticals that could happen during the game or more recapping of someone who played last week. Especially for a once-a-week event, you have to be looking forward.

Journalism, especially with the lack of resources they have, is all about sharing. When I was at News 10, the sports department was stretched thin, and I had to cover the Cuse-Maryland NIT game. A question I asked Donte Greene ended up being used three days later on a sports show I wasn't even there for. It's all about getting the most out of your limited access. So everyone can use the Cordy unclear angle because it's going to pop up several more times before Saturday. If you're stringing story lines together, which is what pregame coverage is all about, this has way more value than some feature article or deep analysis.
 
While it is baileys job to report on who will play... the team and coach have made it clear they won't answer before they have to list injuries for the week. So why not just say we will have that info when the report comes out and ask other questions you will get an answer to.
 
During the presser Babers stated that he didn't have an answer yet because the doctors evaluation wasn't complete yet. So of course he asked the question again as a few days had gone by and there should be a determination of injury. He could have gotten a different answer to his question and it is his job to follow up the answer from Monday and ask the question again whether some of you like it or not.
That makes sense. I don't have a problem with the question being asked. If it was a different journalist that I thought better of, I don't think it would've even registered with me.
 
While it is baileys job to report on who will play... the team and coach have made it clear they won't answer before they have to list injuries for the week. So why not just say we will have that info when the report comes out and ask other questions you will get an answer to.
What if Cordy is not on the injury report? What if he's out for the year?

It's Bailey's job to report, not recycle handouts from the football office. Asking Babers the question gives you two points to report.

For example: "Cordy is listed as questionable, but Coach Babers was unclear if Cordy was able to practice during the week" is much more powerful than just saying "The injury report lists Cordy as questionable."
 
If Cordy is out for the year the coach won't tell you until the injury report comes out. He has made that clear. He won't tell you if the player is not playing until he has to. So if you report that after Cordy left the game with an injury it is unclear if he will play and we will have that when the injury report comes out... it is the same as asking the coach 2 times a question that you know the answer is going to be we will give that info when we have to. Plus if you watch when he gets asked those questions coach gets mad that he is getting asked a question he has told you he isn't answering. Hence bailey gets less access hence he gets shorter answers to his other questions. So if that is worth getting him on record every week saying I'm not telling you until when I have told you I will then keep asking. Right or wrong to get mad a reporter for doing his job it happens.
 
If Cordy is out for the year the coach won't tell you until the injury report comes out. He has made that clear. He won't tell you if the player is not playing until he has to. So if you report that after Cordy left the game with an injury it is unclear if he will play and we will have that when the injury report comes out... it is the same as asking the coach 2 times a question that you know the answer is going to be we will give that info when we have to. Plus if you watch when he gets asked those questions coach gets mad that he is getting asked a question he has told you he isn't answering. Hence bailey gets less access hence he gets shorter answers to his other questions. So if that is worth getting him on record every week saying I'm not telling you until when I have told you I will then keep asking. Right or wrong to get mad a reporter for doing his job it happens.
It's not Bailey's job to get Babers to like him. If Babers gets annoyed, that's Babers' problem, not Bailey's. And Babers "cutting access" because he doesn't like the questions Bailey ask is a seriously petty move. It's not like Babers gives any access beyond what he has to anyway.
 
What if Cordy is not on the injury report? What if he's out for the year?

It's Bailey's job to report, not recycle handouts from the football office. Asking Babers the question gives you two points to report.

For example: "Cordy is listed as questionable, but Coach Babers was unclear if Cordy was able to practice during the week" is much more powerful than just saying "The injury report lists Cordy as questionable."

This is short term problem I think. Come ACC play (NC State week), we have to produce an injury report, right?. My recollection is that we can probably take liberties with questionable, but if someone is out for the year, we've always reported it.
 
It's not Bailey's job to get Babers to like him. If Babers gets annoyed, that's Babers' problem, not Bailey's. And Babers "cutting access" because he doesn't like the questions Bailey ask is a seriously petty move. It's not like Babers gives any access beyond what he has to anyway.
It's not anyone's job to make anyone like them it just makes the rest of their job easier. Maybe if he he didn't annoy him with questions he would give more access. Beat writers get more access all the time by being friendly to the coaches.
 
It's not anyone's job to make anyone like them it just makes the rest of their job easier. Maybe if he he didn't annoy him with questions he would give more access. Beat writers get more access all the time by being friendly to the coaches.
Babers isn't giving access, and it has nothing to do with how much he likes the local media. He could be best friends with Bailey and Mark Larson, and they still wouldn't get access. It's just Babers. And it was Shafer before him, and it was end-of-tenure Marrone before that.
 

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