Alan Griffin transfers to Syracuse.

[007]

People think Richmond is an All-American and have seemingly forgotten about Braswell. Braswell was a depth piece who has health issues. Newton probably has the inside track on him for minutes.

Can you quote one poster claiming that Richmond will be an "All American"?

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

5'10" 2G? Sure.

Senior JG does not get benched.

 

[CuseFaninVT]

Senior JG does not get benched.

Dior doesn't come to SU to come off the bench.

 

[cuse10]

Can you quote one poster claiming that Richmond will be an "All American"?

Go the Richmond thread. Plenty of posters think he's the real deal and the best recruit in years. All American was hyperbole, but there's a lot of nonsense in that thread to support what I've said.

 

[orangefog]

Go the Richmond thread. Plenty of posters think he's the real deal and the best recruit in years. All American was hyperbole, but there's a lot of nonsense in that thread to support what I've said.

I’m with you, I hope he sucks so I can complain more.

 

[Briancuse]

Go the Richmond thread. Plenty of posters think he's the real deal and the best recruit in years. All American was hyperbole, but there's a lot of nonsense in that thread to support what I've said.

I like Richmond and everything I've seen on video but if he's our best recruit in years and ready to make a huge impact next year why is he ranked 85th? I remember hearing great things about carey and goodine also.

 

[007]

Go the Richmond thread. Plenty of posters think he's the real deal and the best recruit in years. All American was hyperbole, but there's a lot of nonsense in that thread to support what I've said.

Some of the "nonsense" also sides with the misrepresentation of what is being posted. I have not seen one All American reference (granted, you did acknowledge that was your hyperbole) or the "best recruit in years."

Full disclosure, I am one of those posters who believe that Kadary is real deal. Quantum leap from that to best recruit in years.

 

[malpearl31]

5'10" 2G? Sure.

One of the benefits of the zone is that there isn't really a difference between the defensive responsibilities of the point guard and the 2-guard position. So if JG3 does shrink a couple of inches by the time Dior arrives, it shouldn't really matter on the defensive end, anyway.

On the offensive end, hopefully Dior's brilliance will offset any adjustment JG3 has to make when it comes to having to hoist the ball slightly further on each shot attempt due to his reverse growth spurt.

 

[Cusesky8214]

Some of the "nonsense" also sides with the misrepresentation of what is being posted. I have not seen one All American reference (granted, you did acknowledge that was your hyperbole) or the "best recruit in years."

Full disclosure, I am one of those posters who believe that Kadary is real deal. Quantum leap from that to best recruit in years.

The kid is legit and does things that none of our current players can and we havent had someone like him in awhile. Very crafty and getting to the hoop and finishing. Good court vision. How good he ends up being is anyone's guess? I think he has a high ceiling.

 

[Cusefan0307]

Dior doesn't come to SU to come off the bench.

They will start alongside each other. That’s an easy prediction.

 

[dasher]

I like Richmond and everything I've seen on video but if he's our best recruit in years and ready to make a huge impact next year why is he ranked 85th? I remember hearing great things about carey and goodine also.

What was Tyler Lydon ranked?

 

[Briancuse]

What was Tyler Lydon ranked?

Don't remember exactly off the top of my head I would say 77 if I had to guess. Carey was like 36 goodine was 75.

 

[CuseFaninVT]

They will start alongside each other. That’s an easy prediction.

Honestly, do we have a shooting guard coming in between now and then?

 

[Cusefan0307]

Honestly, do we have a shooting guard coming in between now and then?

It doesn’t appear we are trying to recruit any until 2022.

 

[sutomcat]

I like Griffin alot but we are talking about replacing the best player in the conference last year. And the ncaa still has to grant this waiver. I do think they grant it but I'm not betting my paycheck on it. I think this team can be better but so will the rest of the acct. Top 15 is a huge reach.

Elijah was a fine player but he wasn’t named the ACC player of the year (except apparently in your head). He finished 4th in the voting for that honor and finished 5th in the conference in votes for first team all conference.

You are entitled to your opinion but note that it is not in keeping with people with more knowledge of the sport than you.

You are correct that Alan needs a waiver, at least as of today, to be eligible to play immediately. I believe I pointed that out in my initial post on this topic. I think everyone understands that.

SU in the top 15 in a statistical model that includes the contributions of transfers expected to be eligible immediately. The link to that model appears earlier in this thread. I believe you are arguing with a model now. You can argue with that model if you want, bit it should be noted it is based on stats, not your opinions.

Diakite, Clark, and Key represent Virginia on All-ACC teams

Plus, Bennett finishes second in ACC COY voting.

www.streakingthelawn.com

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

Dior doesn't come to SU to come off the bench.

Right. They will be the starting backcourt.

 

[HOFCeluck]

Elijah was a fine player but he wasn’t named the ACC player of the year (except apparently in your head). He finished 4th in the voting for that honor and finished 5th in the conference in votes for first team all conference.

You are entitled to your opinion but note that it is not in keeping with people with more knowledge of the sport than you.

You are correct that Alan needs a waiver, at least as of today, to be eligible to play immediately. I believe I pointed that out in my initial post on this topic. I think everyone understands that.

SU in the top 15 in a statistical model that includes the contributions of transfers expected to be eligible immediately. The link to that model appears earlier in this thread. I believe you are arguing with a model now. You can argue with that model if you want, bit it should be noted it is based on stats, not your opinions.

Diakite, Clark, and Key represent Virginia on All-ACC teams

Plus, Bennett finishes second in ACC COY voting.

www.streakingthelawn.com

It’s all but semantics if you’re going to correct him on replacing the ACC POY vs the fourth best in the ACC. Either one is an extremely high standard that imo isn’t fair to hold AG to.

BTW We were ranked in the top 20 preseason by kenpom in 2019. That prediction...didn’t hold up.

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

Elijah was a fine player but he wasn’t named the ACC player of the year (except apparently in your head). He finished 4th in the voting for that honor and finished 5th in the conference in votes for first team all conference.

You are entitled to your opinion but note that it is not in keeping with people with more knowledge of the sport than you.

You are correct that Alan needs a waiver, at least as of today, to be eligible to play immediately. I believe I pointed that out in my initial post on this topic. I think everyone understands that.

SU in the top 15 in a statistical model that includes the contributions of transfers expected to be eligible immediately. The link to that model appears earlier in this thread. I believe you are arguing with a model now. You can argue with that model if you want, bit it should be noted it is based on stats, not your opinions.

Diakite, Clark, and Key represent Virginia on All-ACC teams

Plus, Bennett finishes second in ACC COY voting.

www.streakingthelawn.com

From what I saw, I think he was conference MVP. Not the best NBA player, but the best player for his team in the conference. His season average was really skewed by those two partial games. It would be about 21 a game if you took out those 2 games.
The W/L record this year and the anti SU, north of Mason-Dixon bias of the writers also hurts.
Writers to often worry about not naming the NBA certainty guy MVP in case they look bad.
Would you rather have Tre Young or Eli on SU this year?

 

[Melancer46]

My overall take on next year's team:

• I doubt Griffin is an upgrade over Hughes, at least right away. I do expect him to be good though.
• I expect Kadary to get a decent amount of playing time right away. He seems to me to be a very good recruit; a better high school player than his teammate who is a projected top 10 pick in next year's NBA draft. That doesn't mean he'll be the better college player, but point is he's a very talented guy and should fit in nicely as our 3rd guard.
• I don't expect much/anything out of Woody Newton next year.
• I expect Girard to take a significant step forward next year.

All in all, if the team is going to be better next season, I think it's on the back of Girard's improvement, the addition of Kadary as a legitimate 3rd guard, and more subtle improvements from guys like Buddy, Dolezaj, and or Sidibe. At any rate, I do not at all expect us to be a top 15 team or ranked at all for that matter. I think it would be a nice outcome if we end up being on the bubble; anything on top of that is a welcome surprise.

 

[Briancuse]

Elijah was a fine player but he wasn’t named the ACC player of the year (except apparently in your head). He finished 4th in the voting for that honor and finished 5th in the conference in votes for first team all conference.

You are entitled to your opinion but note that it is not in keeping with people with more knowledge of the sport than you.

You are correct that Alan needs a waiver, at least as of today, to be eligible to play immediately. I believe I pointed that out in my initial post on this topic. I think everyone understands that.

SU in the top 15 in a statistical model that includes the contributions of transfers expected to be eligible immediately. The link to that model appears earlier in this thread. I believe you are arguing with a model now. You can argue with that model if you want, bit it should be noted it is based on stats, not your opinions.

Diakite, Clark, and Key represent Virginia on All-ACC teams

Plus, Bennett finishes second in ACC COY voting.

www.streakingthelawn.com

The only reason Hughes didn't win player of the year was because of where we finished. Hey if these models are right and we are a top 15 team I will gladly eat some crow. We've been waiting a while for a top 15 team. I'm just a bit skeptical how a team that lost 14 games last year and is losing it's best player is going to become a top 15 overnight.

 

[cusemelo15]

Interesting note about Alan that I heard on the podcast today. Glad to see he's more than just the shooter he's been advertised as.

 

[cusemelo15]

From what I saw, I think he was conference MVP. Not the best NBA player, but the best player for his team in the conference. His season average was really skewed by those two partial games. It would be about 21 a game if you took out those 2 games.
The W/L record this year and the anti SU, north of Mason-Dixon bias of the writers also hurts.
Writers to often worry about not naming the NBA certainty guy MVP in case they look bad.
Would you rather have Tre Young or Eli on SU this year?

I'm assuming this is supposed to be Tre Jones? Regardless, he shouldn't have been their representative. We all know it should have been Carey, but K decided to play his mind games. No disrespect to Hughes, but no doubt VC is more valuable than Elijah.

 

[jgeorge322]

I said he would be an upgrade in some areas and he will. He will not be as good in some other areas. I said that too.

Elijah was a really good player for us. This is not meant to denigrate him. But he wasn't at All American levels in all areas. He wasn't really efficient scoring (42% FG, 34% 3 PT%), wasn't a great rebounder and wasn't a great defender.

We will miss his leadership, his passing ability and his ability to make big plays on offense. But Griffin is pretty good too.

i think this post says too little about eli and predicts too much for griffin but i hope im wrong

 

[kcsu]

Agree. I don't know where two3zone is coming up with his determination. Marek was by far our best defender in my mind, at least at forward. He was simply pretty good.

I don't think we had another defender who I would classify as above average. To my eyes, it was the worst defensive team in the JB era. I will say Elijah showed marked improvement late in the season, when he finally sometimes would rotate back and knock an interior pass to his guy away. He even drew a couple of charges late in the season.

If he came back for his senior season, I think he would have evolved into a good defender in the zone.

And then if you consider defensive rebounding as part of defense, which I do, you have to give Elijah some demerits here. That is one area on defense where I think Alan will do better than Elijah.

Rating players on defense is really hard. I don't think there are any good metrics or objective ways to do it properly. This is just my opinion and I could be wrong. Just saying what I think...

Griffin and Eli are very different players. It will be interesting to see if Griffin is able to create for himself which is Elis strongest skill and which will be hard to replace. To me JB has always had a "go to" player. Recently it has been Battle and Eli.
At this point the only players i see with the potential to create for themselves would be
Marek, Kadary, Griffin.
Neither Buddy or Joe have it. Guerrier thinks he does but doesn't and Bras is an unknown.

 

[sutomcat]

i think this post says too little about eli and predicts too much for griffin but i hope im wrong

It all depends on if you believe in statistics or not. I do.

Hopefully Alan will be allowed to play for SU in the coming season. Hopefully there will be a coming season. Then we can find out for sure.