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Hopkins16 said:
Seikaly didn’t become a dominant force until his senior year.
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I don’t think anybody is picking players based on how they played as Frosh - Melo excepted, of course.

Rony was very good as a Junior, and became an absolute monster as a Sr.

But even more impressively - he had a decade long NBA career as a C,
where he averaged nearly a double-double, in the Age of the Center:
Shaq, Dream, Ewing, Admiral, etc.

Rony more than held his own against all of those dudes.
 
CU44SE said:
His oldest player is his dad, who he never actually saw play. So let’s say this list starts as of 2003 for this purpose.

PG: Ennis
SG: Rautins (Senior year, he did so much)
SF: Melo
PF: Wesley Johnson (wanted Hak but couldn’t do it over Wesley)
C: Fab Melo Sophmore year

What do you disagree with? I’m picking my team based on offense and 2-3 zone defense.

I think Ennis was most complete PG. MCW was really good at top of zone. Best defender. But Ennis was always in control of the offense.

SG: I think you have Waters, Gerry, and Rautins. Waters had the most upside and could take over. But I loved Rautins defense and offensive package. Really hard to leave Gerry off this team. It could really go either way.

SF: Slam dunk Melo, no competition.

PF: Hak is probably my favorite. But Wesley Johnson was so dynamic. Can’t keep him off the court. He was lights out shooter and great weakside shot blocker.

C: Fab his sophomore year was unbelievable. I have never seen a defensive presence like him that year. Absolutely suffocating. I would probably go Arinze as the second best in this time frame with Rak being third.
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I would take Hak over Wesley. Wesley is the better shooter but didn't create his own shot. Hak could get his own shot out of the post. I can see wanting to go the other way though.
 
DC was a power forward. our best ever and one of the best in NCAA history. not a center.
it's like saying stevie thompson (one of the best finishing wings ever ) was a point guard.
they were simply played out of position out by necessity.
 
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Born in 91 here

Pearl
Moten/Sherm
Melo
Bing
DC

For players I’ve seen:

Flynn
Waiters
Melo
Warrick
AO/Fab (specifically sophomore year lol)
 
Starters
PG - Pearl
SG - Bing
SF - Melo
PF - Owens
C - DC

Bench
B - JW
B - Warrick
B - Seikley
B - GMac
B - Sherm
B - Moten
B - Flynn

Coaching Staff
HC - JAB
Pitino
Weaver
Brendan Malone
Hopkins
 
grepal said:
And he obviously never saw me light up Archbold Gym during intramural. Legendary stuff.
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I once did light up the gym there in a pick-up game. Dennis Duval never had a chance. Do nothing but skip classes for a semester and play hoops, and you too could end up like me.
 
1st- Sherm
Bing
Carmello
Coleman
Bouie

2nd- Pearl
Moten
Warrick
Hackett
Schayes

3rd- McNamara
Thompson
Grant
Owens
Seikaly

Honorable Mention: Dennis DuVal, Tyler Ennis, Louis Orr, Bil Smith, Jason Hart, Johnny Flynn, Michael Carter-Williams.
 
cayugacuse said:
1st- Sherm
Bing
Carmello
Coleman
Bouie

2nd- Pearl
Moten
Warrick
Hackett
Schayes

3rd- McNamara
Thompson
Grant
Owens
Seikaly

Honorable Mention: Dennis DuVal, Tyler Ennis, Louis Orr, Bil Smith, Jason Hart, Johnny Flynn, Michael Carter-Williams.
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Danny Schayes over Seikaly?
 
UnderHisOwnPower said:
Sr Rak christmas is in that conversation
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Rak is another player who was underwhelming until his senior year. He was very foul prone till then too.
Rakeem Christmas College Stats | College Basketball at Sports-Reference.com

Rony was very foul prone till his junior year and was really good his last 2 years. He was an excellent rebounder all 4 years but foul trouble limited his minutes his first 2 years. Rony Seikaly College Stats | College Basketball at Sports-Reference.com

Louie Orr and Roosevelt Bouie were probably our best tandem “big men” who played together all 4 years. Next was Derrick Coleman and Billy Owens but they played together just 2 years and Billy’s best year was his junior year after DC was in the NBA.
 
I’m only going to go with guys I saw, so no Bing or Bouie.

First Team:
PG – Sherman (although by the time I finish typing this I might change my mind to Pearl)
SG – Gerry – 2nd ball handler and big shot after big shot
SF – Melo – could do it all and did it all in his 1 year
PF – DC – I know some people put him as a center but from what I read in Boeheim’s book DC is adamant he is a PF and I don’t want to get him angry
C – Rony – great low post scorer and a very good rebounder

Second Team:
PG – Pearl – could easily switch him and Sherman.
SG – Moten – our all-time leading scorer has to be on there somewhere
SF – Billy – possibly the most skilled all around player in SU history
PF – Wallace – the ultimate SU one man gang and had as much swagger as anyone
C – AO – Low post scoring and immovable in the zone D
 
Vshukla said:
I’m only going to go with guys I saw, so no Bing or Bouie.

First Team:
PG – Sherman (although by the time I finish typing this I might change my mind to Pearl)
SG – Gerry – 2nd ball handler and big shot after big shot
SF – Melo – could do it all and did it all in his 1 year
PF – DC – I know some people put him as a center but from what I read in Boeheim’s book DC is adamant he is a PF and I don’t want to get him angry
C – Rony – great low post scorer and a very good rebounder

Second Team:
PG – Pearl – could easily switch him and Sherman.
SG – Moten – our all-time leading scorer has to be on there somewhere
SF – Billy – possibly the most skilled all around player in SU history
PF – Wallace – the ultimate SU one man gang and had as much swagger as anyone
C – AO – Low post scoring and immovable in the zone D
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i think you have to pair Sherm with Rony or drop Rony altogether. his thing was the alley oop.
so i like that. gerry gives you an outside threat and DC and Melo could destroy anybody. well done . as for second team pearl and moten (didn't see bing play except as a piston but swap him for moten if you will ) solid backcourt. but again i would pair louie and bouie (soul mates) with billy owens on the front line. pearl's gonna pearl . moten (or bing) was a good outside threat and a baseline assassin . and that front line louie/bowie/owens dominates anybody. man that would be fun to watch.
 
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pfister1 said:
C - Danny Schayes / Roosevelt Bouie/ Rony Seikaly
Forward - Derrick Coleman
Forward - Billy Owens
G - Dave Bing
G - Dwayne Washington / Sherman Douglas

*** Interesting, the website won't accept the letter "" standing alone, even as an abbreviation for Forward. This is a basketball forum isn't it?
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You can thank Marsh01 for that nice censorship. :)
 
tbonezone said:
i think you have to pair Sherm with Rony or drop Rony altogether. his thing was the alley oop.
so i like that. gerry gives you an outside threat and DC and Melo could destroy anybody. well done . as for second team pearl and moten (didn't see bing play except as a piston but swap him for moten if you will ) solid backcourt. but again i would pair louie and bouie (soul mates) with billy owens on the front line. pearl's gonna pearl . moten (or bing) was a good outside threat and a baseline assassin . and that front line louie/bowie/owens dominates anybody. man that would be fun to watch.
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Thanks for the reply and insights.
I think you underestimated Rony a bit. I believe he had really good low post moves and could get his shot without the alley oop.
Louie and Bouie were a bit before my time but even if they weren’t I have a hard time taking Wallace out. He’s one of my favorites and had a tremendous 4 year career.
 
If I need to win a game, rather than accumulate stats:

PG: Pearl, Douglas, Flynn
SG: GMac, Bing, Moten
SF: Anthony, Owens, Fair
PF: DC, Wallace, Orr
C: Seikaly, AO, Bouie

As much as Bing's stats and NBA history speak for themselves, GMac was as clutch as one can get in big games.
 
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