And our starting QB next year is....

[cuseinin]

AE

 

[rrlbees]

I've always thought you should bring in at least 2 every year, even if it means you have to sacrifice numbers at other positions. You have to have a playmaker at QB to win consistently.

10 on the roster is far too many. Nobody does that.

 

[Acuse]

AJ has his flaws but he is a true freshman. AJ is by far a better passer, almost to a degree that you can't even compare Hunt to AJ.
Once AJ gains a bit more muscle mass, AJ will be comparable to Hunt except with better passing abilities.
Wilson doesn't really factor into the equation until he can somehow find a miracle way to be a dual-threat QB.

 

[cuseguy]

Little story.

When Addazio took over at BC, he told Tim Boyle, a pocket QB from Connecticut, that he wouldn't honor his scholarship. Boyle was the State Player of the Year, a tall kid with a big arm, but Addazio didn't want pocket style QBs. Boyle took a scholie at UConn and Addazio went with Florida transfer Tyler Murphy, a dual-threat QB.

Addazio has vowed to recruit only dual-threat QBs from this point.

 

[Oakland]

AJ is good, he is clearly better than Hunt in my mind, but I also like Wilson as a passer. I think SU has found better than Hunt who is a poor thrower of the football. I have it: AJ, Wilson, Hunt.

Hunt. Sure AJ has upside but i think that if Hunt had been directed by Lester he would have done much better. Hunt throws a much better deep ball than the quick lateral passes that George was focused on and Lester is a vertical passing coach Physically there is no comparison. Hunt is a man. Im not sure about the kid from Florida as he is the wild card and who knows maybe AJ puts on 20 pounds of muscle. Still we should be deep with plenty of game experiance between the three kids who played this year. The bottom line is that the competion is going to be great and we are going to be deep at the QB position next year.

 

[TheCusian]

Not writing him off. He is just not ready to play. But it is going to get tougher when he faces teams that have the blueprint for beating him. We have limited playbook and he is careless with the ball - he is just look at the tape. Bad luck burned his rs but it is what it is. We have no idead what he will or won't be. We do know he is not ready now.

I think the opposite is true. Kid is a gamer who wants to get better. These mistakes in his freshman season turn into the right decisions in the offseason.

He his really accurate. And gutsy.

 

[007]

10 on the roster is far too many. Nobody does that.

10? 10 would assume you bring in 2 players each and every year, they all redshirt, no one transfers, no one gets injured, and they all stay at QB. Does that seem likely to you?

Attrition, transfers, injury, and position switches would keep the numbers under control. Our "success" rate at finding, attracting and developing good QBs over the last 25 years suggests to me that we would be much better off throwing numbers at the single most important position on the team.

 

[rrlbees]

10? 10 would assume you bring in 2 players each and every year, they all redshirt, no one transfers, no one gets injured, and they all stay at QB. Does that seem likely to you? Attrition, transfers, injury, and position switches would keep the numbers under control. Our "success" rate at finding, attracting and developing good QBs over the last 25 years suggests to me that we would be much better off throwing numbers at the single most important position on the team.

This has been an unusual year for injuries. But I guess some would transfer if you brought in 2 a year because if they didn't we'd have 10 so I think 5 or 6 would leave every 5 year period. We aren't taking 2 every year.

 

[orangepassion]

Hunt showed me a lot at the end of last year.

 

[rrlbees]

Saw Hunt at halftime. No crutches but still has a slight limp.

 

[Stern]

Hunt throws for 300+ last season, we throw a party. Long throws for that and we're hoping for a Florida retread.

Long is the guy. He's just taking his lumps as a freshman. Plus the line was by far the worst all season, today.

Long is the guy and we have to live with the growing pains of a young freshman QB. Let him take his lumps this year, season is already lost anyway. Prepare him for next season. The more work he gets now the better it will be in the long-term

 

[Stern]

Hunt showed me a lot at the end of last year.

and its a damn shame it didn't carry over to this year.

I'm wondering why. He went to the Manning Camp in the offseason which you would think would only help. In his case it clearly didn't

 

[texascpa]

Not writing him off. He is just not ready to play. But it is going to get tougher when he faces teams that have the blueprint for beating him. We have limited playbook and he is careless with the ball - he is just look at the tape. Bad luck burned his rs but it is what it is. We have no idead what he will or won't be. We do know he is not ready now.

I'm willing to toss this season if it gets him that much more ready. He has made some really good throws, throws Hunt can't or won't make. Have him practicing in Spring isn't going to get him more ready better or quicker. That only comes from playing competition.

 

[Statesman1]

Hunt showed me a lot at the end of last year.

Unfortunately, he showed us even more at the beginning of this year.

 

[SmilinBob]

Long has his positives and negatives. Nice touch, gamer, average speed I suppose. Too small and easy to tackle. He can't do anything about his height but HAS to get stronger (whole body). As for the turnovers with the way the line played (Hurt I know but let's face facts they were bad yesterday) AJ didn't make a lot of errors per situation. He didn't miss a lot of throws by any means so I do see him as a future starter for this team.

Hunt...his inconsistency is tough to watch. Strong arm and body but his reads bug me. Too much of a tendency to run but yet is quite successful doing so. I just want a more accurate arm but I really don't know if that would ever happen. Unless the O-Line is healthy and hitting on all cylinders may be the best choice out there.

Wilson. Love his arm. Not a runner by any means but again he's a freshmen as well and if SU can get a solid line working he could be the best choice if you don't want the qb to be an option running the ball which I doubt is the case.

Kimble...no clue. Heard this heard that seen nothing on any type of field of play.

AE...fast as heck and strong arm. Could be a faster version of Hunt (no clue on his accuracy/touch) but the kid ain't in Syracuse.

 

[Crusty]

Let's face it, we are so desperate for an offense and a QB that we see things in our players that are not there. We overlook their negatives and assume they will learn of the shortcomings will somehow go away.

Just about everything that we are saying about AJ we were saying about Hunt a year ago. At the beginning of the season the word was that Hunt had improved greatly. Simply was not the case.

AJ has unimpressive stats in the four games he has played so far. He has thrown 128 passes and completed 72 for 727 yards (5.6 yards per attempt). A 56% completion rate. He has 4 touchdown passes and 6 interceptions. Let me repeat that - 4 touchdowns and 6 interceptions. He also has a fumble lost. That is 7 turnovers in 3 1/2 games - an average of 2 per game.

He has rushed 31 times for 84 yards and 100 yards of loss for a net of -16. He has had one rushing TD. Excluding the losses he has averaged 2.71 yards per carry.

If we had any other QB ready, AJ would be benched.

He is an 18 year-old teenager who is simply not ready to play D-1 football as starting QB. Not his fault of course, but his performance is because he is not ready not because of injuries or anything else. He make rookie mistakes and will continue to.

We have no idea if he will improve enough to start or if he will plateau or even regress like Hunt. We simply don't know.

The QB position is wide open and will remain that way until kickoff next year.

 

[sutomcat]

Little story.

When Addazio took over at BC, he told Tim Boyle, a pocket QB from Connecticut, that he wouldn't honor his scholarship. Boyle was the State Player of the Year, a tall kid with a big arm, but Addazio didn't want pocket style QBs. Boyle took a scholie at UConn and Addazio went with Florida transfer Tyler Murphy, a dual-threat QB.

Addazio has vowed to recruit only dual-threat QBs from this point.

A couple of other things:

SU offered Tim Boyle. I think we were the first to do so. Hackett really liked him.

Boyle has been historically awful for UConn so far. His career numbers feature a completion percentage well below 50%. For his career, he has thrown a total of 0 TDs and 10 interceptions.

Boyle is surely better than his numbers. UConn has almost no D1 talent at any position on offense, so he has almost nothing to work with, and their coaching staff is also highly troubled. But it looks like Addazio made a good call dumping Boyle on the Huskies.

 

[GoSU96]

Whoever Phil Montgomery picks.

A guy can dream, can't he?

 

[JoeSU]

Instead of bringing in more QBs, I'd like to see an emphasis placed on improving the OL. If we did, I think we'd see the productivity of Hunt/Long/Wilson/(Edouard ?) improve significantly. Joe Flacco's diminished productivity last year is a perfect example of the importance of the OL. If you can't run the ball, opposing DLs tee off on the QB. If you give even a mediocre QB enough time to throw, he'll pick you apart.

 

[orangencpolice]

Say what you want to about bubble screens, but every team uses them. NC State used them pretty well. If Hunt can't get the bubble screen down then he won't start next year. I know we all wanted to crucify McDonald for his over use of them at the beginning of the year, but Hunt looked pathetic throwing them. I say let all four including Edouard battle it out in camp. Don't count out Wilson. He looked much better this year than some of our back up QBs in the past.

 

[OrangePA]

I love Hunt.

But I have to say, AJ Long is the better thrower. He is more accurate, throws to space and throws a pass that is catchable.

He is a true frosh.

Hunt, when the season began, had been on the team for three years - he obviously understands the college game to a greater degree. And yesterday we saw why a true frosh at the QB position is at a disadvantage.

So, let them compete. You can't hand the job to T. Hunt right now.

 

[Statesman1]

Let's face it, we are so desperate for an offense and a QB that we see things in our players that are not there. We overlook their negatives and assume they will learn of the shortcomings will somehow go away.

Just about everything that we are saying about AJ we were saying about Hunt a year ago. At the beginning of the season the word was that Hunt had improved greatly. Simply was not the case.

AJ has unimpressive stats in the four games he has played so far. He has thrown 128 passes and completed 72 for 727 yards (5.6 yards per attempt). A 56% completion rate. He has 4 touchdown passes and 6 interceptions. Let me repeat that - 4 touchdowns and 6 interceptions. He also has a fumble lost. That is 7 turnovers in 3 1/2 games - an average of 2 per game.

He has rushed 31 times for 84 yards and 100 yards of loss for a net of -16. He has had one rushing TD. Excluding the losses he has averaged 2.71 yards per carry.

If we had any other QB ready, AJ would be benched.

He is an 18 year-old teenager who is simply not ready to play D-1 football as starting QB. Not his fault of course, but his performance is because he is not ready not because of injuries or anything else. He make rookie mistakes and will continue to.

We have no idea if he will improve enough to start or if he will plateau or even regress like Hunt. We simply don't know.

The QB position is wide open and will remain that way until kickoff next year.

We're in a tough spot- Hunt showed what he was (in)capable of behind a whole offensive line and it wasn't much. He simply can't make reads or throw with any accuracy. Long has shown some touch but he's playing behind a patchwork line. The only thing to hang your hat on with Long is also his biggest limitation, which is his youth. Personally, its hard for me to get excited over a player if his main qualification is that he's a better passer than Hunt- that's such a low standard. I took my 6 year old daughter to the game yesterday, and I have to give her credit for hanging in there to the bitter end. We are both bad and boring, not a great combination for recruiting or trying to get a 6 year old to enjoy SU football. There's not enough ice cream in the Dome to keep her interested if this is how it's gonna be.

 

[orangepack]

I don't think AJ is the guy. His physical stats are clearly fudged - he's not 6'0", can't see over the line. A majority of our wide outs are bigger than he is - which is what his future should be on this football team.

 

[kcsu]

I started this post to start the conversation in looking at all of the post what is obvious is that we dont know who are starting QB will be next year. If Hunt can find a passing touch it will be him If AJ can continue to grow and add some muscle it could be him, if Wilson can learn to be a little more mobile is he the guy, and if AE is in fact the second coming of D Mc is he our starter? The good news is that we have options and we are going to be deep at the position next year.

 

[Madbiker]

It's not Hunt. I'm sick of having a QB that can't throw. Tired of watching simple short passes sail 6 feet over receivers' heads. Tired of watching passes thrown 3 feet behind open receivers. Right now looks like Long. He can throw. His mistakes are from lack of experience. Who knows what AE is.