As far as the next Head basketball coach

[RedtheGOB]

By basing it off of purely RSCI ratings, I ran the risk of confirmation bias and avoided recency bias.

Clearly, several of our best players were unranked by RSCI coming out of high school. No doubt, some players progress better than others, and sometimes there are blown scouting reports that miss on players.

But, generally speaking, high talent out of high school succeeds at a higher rate in college ball.

I didn't want to go through every roster player by player, it is highly subjective (and this isn't my job). The ACC in general recruited much better as a conference both in high school and portal recruiting. That comes from having more money. I can't find confirmed sources for NIL and unfortunately every body has incentive to lie.

Unless we start getting publicly available contracts, we will never know.

But if we were 6-7th in NIL money spent this season, out of 18 conference teams, that actually supports my point that we can compete with everybody but Duke financially and will get our fair share of recruiting wins.

Agree. One thing I will say in the current portal era is that with Euro dudes, G League dudes, guys playing their 5-6 years and the million other guys around...You have to be a top blue chip level player, we're talking 5 stars to make that freshman impact, and as far as after freshman year it's all about timing.

Some highly rated HS kids may not excel until they are much older and in the right system and I would argue is more random than ever.

 

[NCo’range]

Playgrounds built on cement including that thing that spins around until you fell off. Lawn darts. Wood burning kits. Drinking from outside faucets. Playing tackle football with zero equipment. Climbing trees high enough that a fall would kill you.

Yep, did all those things including climbing the three tiered metal jungle gym and a 20’ tall metal slide that both cooked red hot in the So. California sun!
Good times or craziness?

 

[RedtheGOB]

There's an analytics guy on twitter who put the estimated NIL spend for each team in the tournament on twitter. If his numbers are accurate(and I think they are because he's on point with the top teams) we spent more than Gonzaga, Nova, SMU and Clemson.
We were in the same territory as Michigan State, Missouri, Georgia, Miami, and Nebraska.

Purdue, Illinois, UConn, and Kansas slightly above. Based on the estimates it backs up what we saw in the preseason recruiting rankings.

By the way the top spending teams are Kentucky, Duke, Arkansas, Michigan, Texas Tech and then it's everyone else from 7.5 to 10 million. Kentucky spent 8 million more than Duke for a 7 seed. Ridiculous. Their opponent Santa Clara spent just below 3 million.

Yea he may be close on some but honestly not all. Teams like Miami, Georgia, even SMU if you tell me to believe the exact #'s they're reporting I call BS. These school have not told the truth about what they spend on paying players for 3 generations. The idea that now we know exactly what they spend or are willing to spend is crazy.

IMO we are getting hustled. It benefits teams to broadcast how little NIL they are spending and then to all the sudden have 2 million more that they are willing to spend when players and agents are on the market.

Hopefully BH sees this coming a mile away from his time in SEC land and that's why he knows to overask on NIL resources. We know Fran figured it out that hustle long ago as well.

 

[pearl31]

There's an analytics guy on twitter who put the estimated NIL spend for each team in the tournament on twitter. If his numbers are accurate(and I think they are because he's on point with the top teams) we spent more than Gonzaga, Nova, SMU and Clemson.
We were in the same territory as Michigan State, Missouri, Georgia, Miami, and Nebraska.

Purdue, Illinois, UConn, and Kansas slightly above. Based on the estimates it backs up what we saw in the preseason recruiting rankings.

By the way the top spending teams are Kentucky, Duke, Arkansas, Michigan, Texas Tech and then it's everyone else from 7.5 to 10 million. Kentucky spent 8 million more than Duke for a 7 seed. Ridiculous. Their opponent Santa Clara spent just below 3 million.

curious, what did he put Iowa St at?

 

[Cusefan0307]

curious, what did he put Iowa St at?

Right around 8

 

[Cusefan0307]

Yea he may be close on some but honestly not all. Teams like Miami, Georgia, even SMU if you tell me to believe the exact #'s they're reporting I call BS. These school have not told the truth about what they spend on paying players for 3 generations. The idea that now we know exactly what they spend or are willing to spend is crazy.

IMO we are getting hustled. It benefits teams to broadcast how little NIL they are spending and then to all the sudden have 2 million more that they are willing to spend when players and agents are on the market.

Hopefully BH sees this coming a mile away from his time in SEC land and that's why he knows to overask on NIL resources. We know Fran figured it out that hustle long ago as well.

Interestingly enough we had a higher overall ranking on the sites compared to Miami and just below SMU. That’s why I think it’s kind of in line. You can see the overall correlation a bit. That said there’s a bunch of top 4 seeds below 10 million. We need to remember that’s still the exception here. And yes I’m using combined NIL and Revenue Share numbers.

 

[orange79]

Or why my post got deleted

I have not deleted any post of yours today.

 

[CuseFaninVT]

I have not deleted any post of yours today.

Yet

 

[721Comstock]

I have not deleted any post of yours today.

 

[Starman]

I decided to search up my account, even though I'm so new.

Uh oh. I can't imagine that's a good thing

 

[General20]

Yea he may be close on some but honestly not all. Teams like Miami, Georgia, even SMU if you tell me to believe the exact #'s they're reporting I call BS. These school have not told the truth about what they spend on paying players for 3 generations. The idea that now we know exactly what they spend or are willing to spend is crazy.

IMO we are getting hustled. It benefits teams to broadcast how little NIL they are spending and then to all the sudden have 2 million more that they are willing to spend when players and agents are on the market.

Hopefully BH sees this coming a mile away from his time in SEC land and that's why he knows to overask on NIL resources. We know Fran figured it out that hustle long ago as well.

This is an interesting conversation. I work with people at many different universities across the country and have had a lot of NIL discussions. It seems to me that very few people know what any single school is spending down to the dollar and probably nobody out there knows what every school is spending.

I would be very wary of people claiming to know how much each school is spending because a lot of this happens in secret.

If you want my educated guess as to where Syracuse fits into the big picture of spending ... when it comes to the ACC there is Duke who spends way more than anybody else in the country, has since the 80s, and is in their own class. Then there are a couple schools who spend more than the rest and a couple schools who spend less. Most of the league, including SU is in a big bunch that spend similar amounts to everybody else.

That's why you'll see most schools say, and have heard people say about SU, we are top 4 or 5 in spending. Its not really wrong or a lie. But being top 4 is basically the same as being bottom 4. There is for practical purposes a big spending tie in the middle of the league that fluctuates from year to year based on if you over or under spend based on roster requirements for that particular year.

 

[Toga]

 

[Newhouser]

My money is still on someone not mentioned on the forum yet.

 

[CuseFaninVT]

Not clicking on a video with that phrase

 

[chadvader]

My money is still on someone not mentioned on the forum yet.

Buddy Boeheim? Jimmy Boeheim? Julie Boeheim?

 

[orlandoorange]

Yep, did all those things including climbing the three tiered metal jungle gym and a 20’ tall metal slide that both cooked red hot in the So. California sun!
Good times or craziness?

BB gun and bottle rocket fights. And no one shot their eye out.

I have a hunch that the mortality data cited from the 70s in an earlier post likely had a lot to do with vehicle safety - no airbags, no one used seatbelts. Heck, half the country still smoked.

 

[SUFaninNJ]

SyracuseFan After Dark?

 

[cuseincincy]

I haven't read this whole thread, but since it is the coaches thread the best candidate in my opinion is Jerrod Calhoun from Utah St. He has 14 years experience at increasing levels and has also coached in the post season in 4 of the last 5 seasons. He is the name everyone in Cincinnati wants because he's a UC alum and Ohio native. But why not SU? His team was also good enough to receive an at-large bid last season and would have this season also if they had not won their tournament. Neither Hodgson or GMac can say that.

 

[CuseFaninVT]

I haven't read this whole thread, but since it is the coaches thread the best candidate in my opinion is Jerrod Calhoun from Utah St. He has 14 years experience at increasing levels and has also coached in the post season in 4 of the last 5 seasons. He is the name everyone in Cincinnati wants because he's a UC alum and Ohio native. But why not SU? His team was also good enough to receive an at-large bid last season and would have this season also if they had not won their tournament. Neither Hodgson or GMac can say that.

Unmm, his name is good enough for me to be out.

 

[Toga]

Unmm, his name is good enough for me to be out.

Fair

 

[Orangezoo]

Not clicking on a video with that phrase

 

[Sherman20]

I disagree. There are many more good candidates out there than just those two guys.

Remember, Brown and Blair were both out-of-left-field choices. We could be blindsided again.

Re: Brown: SU basketball is on a very different level than SU football, imo. People got excited about the Brown hire because of his demonstrated recruiting prowess and communication skills/personality, his reverence for the history of the program, and his immediate ability to keep our best players, land impact transfers like McCord, and make immediate splashes on the recruiting trail. Otherwise there would have been a lot more consternation about his hire. That said, Syracuse basketball is one of the best brands in the country with a rich history. We are widely considered the best open job on the market this season, so we should be in the pole position to land our preferred candiate/one of the best guys on the market. That’s amplified by the fact that he’s from upstate New York and has expressed behind the scenes that this is a job that he wants.

 

[Sherman20]

My money is still on someone not mentioned on the forum yet.

All of the potential coaches have been mentioned. We aren’t likely pulling anyone from another P5 school save for Holloway. That leaves the top mid major coaches, and those have been discussed as nauseum. Or a top assistant like Luke Murray.