Big 10 wimps out on TV ban

[rrlbees]

Said they considered it but felt NCAA sanctions were enough. Delaney fails.

 

[GoSU96]

TV ban effects the opponent as well. And they have content provisions in their contracts with the BTN and ESPN.

 

[dasher]

Said they considered it but felt NCAA sanctions were enough. Delaney fails.[/quote
While they couldn't be punished enough in my book, what they got was pretty close.

 

[rrlbees]

TV ban effects the opponent as well. And they have content provisions in their contracts with the BTN and ESPN.

Every penalty has collateral damage. The reason why the B10 didn't go this way is because it would effect their own pocket book. This is the only failure in all the santions.

Next up will be other Universities OOC including SU. Let's see what kind of moral fortitude they have. Make PedSt go play Slippery Rock OOC.

 

[OttosBestFriend]

TV ban effects the opponent as well. And they have content provisions in their contracts with the BTN and ESPN.

It also affects fans - tens of millions of football fans around the country - that had nothing to do with this. (both PSU fans and their future opponents' fans)

There's no need to punish the innocent just to get a point across when there are plenty of other ways to make PSU pay.

 

[KaiserUEO]

Said they considered it but felt NCAA sanctions were enough. Delaney fails.

see you next august.

bring the hotdogs.

 

[GoSU96]

Every penalty has collateral damage. The reason why the B10 didn't go this way is because it would effect their own pocket book. This is the only failure in all the santions.

Next up will be other Universities OOC including SU. Let's see what kind of moral fortitude they have. Make PedSt go play Slippery Rock OOC.

If SU cancels that game it will have to be with the consent of the Metlife folks, and that means they will need to have a comparable replacement lined up. It's not that easy.

 

[rrlbees]

see you next august.

bring the hotdogs.

I'll be there of course if SU doesn't do the right thing.

 

[OttosBestFriend]

If SU cancels that game it will have to be with the consent of the Metlife folks, and that means they will need to have a comparable replacement lined up. It's not that easy.

Now that PSU has no bowl games for 4 years, THIS game IS their bowl game for 2013.

Meaning MetLife will be a guaranteed sellout with 75K+ in the stadium paying a premium ticket price.

No way Syracuse gives up that kind of $$$.

Stand on all the soapboxes you want, but Dr. Gross isn't stupid.

My bet is that this game will not be canceled.

 

[SouthCampusHero]

There's no need to punish the innocent just to get a point across when there are plenty of other ways to make PSU pay.

Such as? I cant think of a single punishment that wouldnt effect "innocent" individuals or groups of people, one way or another.

 

[rrlbees]

It also affects fans - tens of millions of football fans around the country - that had nothing to do with this. (both PSU fans and their future opponents' fans)

There's no need to punish the innocent just to get a point across when there are plenty of other ways to make PSU pay.

Why are TV bans used for far lesser crimes? There isn't a single penalty that can be levied that won't effect some innocent party(ies).

 

[rrlbees]

If SU cancels that game it will have to be with the consent of the Metlife folks, and that means they will need to have a comparable replacement lined up. It's not that easy.

I have zero doubt a comparable opponent could be found. None what so ever.

 

[ForCuseSake]

$73M, no bowls and losing 10 'ships for 4 years...

Terry Pegula can make up the lost revenue w/ one check and everybody can still watch them on tv. It all amounts to one big ruler slapping the collective PSU wrist. SMDH

 

[rrlbees]

Now that PSU has no bowl games for 4 years, THIS game IS their bowl game for 2013.

Meaning MetLife will be a guaranteed sellout with 75K+ in the stadium paying a premium ticket price.

No way Syracuse gives up that kind of $$$.

Stand on all the soapboxes you want, but Dr. Gross isn't stupid.

My bet is that this game will not be canceled.

Replacement team, not cancel. Plus, I don't know the contract but I wouldn't be surprised if our payment is a set one and not tied to attendance except maybe a minimum.

 

[Scooch]

When Penn State is notching successive 3 win seasons because of these sanctions I suspect they won't get on national TV all that much.

 

[44PRIDE]

In a business sense, I tend to agree with the B1G here. PSU just got hammered (rightfully so) and will be forced to pay a mountain of cash...along with missing out on their conference bowl money. Piling onto the PSU -storm does the B1G no good.

The B1G needs for PSU to return to relevancy as soon as possible. Banning them from TV only makes PSU's eventual return to prominence that much more difficult.

 

[007]

In a business sense, I tend to agree with the B1G here. PSU just got hammered (rightfully so) and will be forced to pay a mountain of cash...along with missing out on their conference bowl money. Piling onto the PSU -storm does the B1G no good.

The B1G needs for PSU to return to relevancy as soon as possible. Banning them from TV only makes PSU's eventual return to prominence that much more difficult.

Agreed.

The B1G did exactly what it needed to do...publically admonished PSU through a "reasonable" financial penalty without negatively impacting the bottom line of any other program in the conference. In fact, all other programs in the B1G will benefit from an increased share of bowl TV revenue.

Win-win for Delaney.

 

[KaiserUEO]

I have zero doubt a comparable opponent could be found. None what so ever.

ive already been looking. there is a lot of the major players already scheduled for that weekend.

its got to be a team who is worth it for metlife.

there would have to be buyouts or reschedules involved.

 

[KaiserUEO]

Agreed.

The B1G did exactly what it needed to do...publically admonished PSU through a "reasonable" financial penalty without negatively impacting the bottom line of any other program in the conference. In fact, all other programs in the B1G will benefit from an increased share of bowl TV revenue.

Win-win for Delaney.

except penn states share is going to a charity, not into the b1g's bank account.

 

[007]

except penn states share is going to a charity, not into the b1g's bank account.

even better PR move

 

[rrlbees]

When Penn State is notching successive 3 win seasons because of these sanctions I suspect they won't get on national TV all that much.

That very well could be true.

 

[JoeSU]

In a business sense, I tend to agree with the B1G here. PSU just got hammered (rightfully so) and will be forced to pay a mountain of cash...along with missing out on their conference bowl money. Piling onto the PSU -storm does the B1G no good.

The B1G needs for PSU to return to relevancy as soon as possible. Banning them from TV only makes PSU's eventual return to prominence that much more difficult.

The announcers for every PSU game picked-up by the Big 10 Network are going to bring up the Sandusky scandal, sanctions, etc., ad nauseum, just as they did when the Fine mess initially broke. It is not the sort of constant, painful reminders the league or school needs. Why would the B1G Network want to showcase a program that has brought shame on themselves and the conference? What advertiser will want their commercials associated with this toxic program? I think the interests of both PSU and the conference would be better served by PSU keeping a low profile for a while. The B1G has plenty of other good teams that are worthy of our attention.

 

[Orangepace]

Every penalty has collateral damage. The reason why the B10 didn't go this way is because it would effect their own pocket book. This is the only failure in all the santions.

Next up will be other Universities OOC including SU. Let's see what kind of moral fortitude they have. Make PedSt go play Slippery Rock OOC.

Rutgers will schedule them.. it'd be an easy win for anyone. Rutgers is never too good for this.

 

[Stern]

Every penalty has collateral damage. The reason why the B10 didn't go this way is because it would effect their own pocket book. This is the only failure in all the santions.

Next up will be other Universities OOC including SU. Let's see what kind of moral fortitude they have. Make PedSt go play Slippery Rock OOC.

SU needs to get out of that game!

 

[Scooch]

The announcers for every PSU game picked-up by the Big 10 Network are going to bring up the Sandusky scandal, sanctions, etc., ad nauseum, just as they did when the Fine mess initially broke. It is not the sort of constant, painful reminders the league or school needs. Why would the B1G Network want to showcase a program that has brought shame on themselves and the conference? What advertiser will want their commercials associated with this toxic program? I think the interests of both PSU and the conference would be better served by PSU keeping a low profile for a while. The B1G has plenty of other good teams that are worthy of our attention.

I bet they won't.

The Big Ten Network literally said last week, "While some may be unaware, BTN is not and was never intended to be a news organization". I suspect they won't spend much in-game air time talking about this situation. Mostly they'll talk about the game.

Like I said to Bees, national TV likes to put good teams on the air. If these sanctions have the impact we think they will, then Penn State won't be a good team for a while and they won't get much national coverage. They'll get games on BTN because that's where 3rd-tier games are aired for that conference.