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Bills 2024 Thread - Misery loves company
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Lots of Broncos love from the Get Up folks this morning, talking about how this might be the worst draw for the Bills (ok?) because of Patrick Surtain and their ability to pressure the QB. Of course, no mention of how the Bills allowed the fewest sacks by any NFL team since 2009 (and led the league for the second straight year in fewest sacks allowed) and tied the 2019 Saints for fewest giveaways in a single season since at least 1933. Seems like those two things should matter when talking about this defense vs. offense matchup.
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meh, bunch of talking heads doing their job and talking. Bills are favored by 8.5 and -450 money line. They should handle this one but I do think Denver's defense is formidable. Not sure who I would bet given the line but the Bills should at least handle a rookie QB in Buffalo. I can see 31- 20 type of score.
Denver once they get all their cap space should be really tough given they have Nix on a great deal for a 3-4 years. Watching Payton in New Orleans he will use every bit of that cap space and then some
Finally we are at the point of the season where this is the only thing that Bills' fans will remember.
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Ya I can't really think of a team where Surtain would in theory matter less against, Lol. Their Front is definitely formidable and will make some plays but it's hard to see them ruining the game vs a team like the Bills.
Howie Long said yesterday the Bills are "up& down, you never know" (really I can think of approx 30 teams that's more true of). That's just going to be a dumb narrative that sticks until we win it all I guess.
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The Bills are favored for a reason and I think they win, but I do think Denver is being a bit underrated here. Nix has really played well the 2nd half of the season. Only Burrow threw for more touchdowns the last 8 games.
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Right, we have no true #1. The ball gets spread around everywhere by Josh, as evidenced by almost breaking the single season record for most players with a receiving touchdown. Let Surtain shadow Cooper all game. Would be fine by me.
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Agreed, I expect Payton to come out with a bunch of gadget stuff everywhere, game to be close at halftime and Bills should pull ahead in 3rd and 4th and move forward. Payton playing with house money here and he will go for it. I would expect they may get an early lead type game
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Denver is certainly a good team and of course as we all know Buffalo could lose but hard to see how this was the "worst draw for Buffalo" when its been clear for weeks Denver was highly likely to be the 7th seed barring something nuts. Clearly Miami would have been the best draw had they somehow snuck in but Cincy would have certainly been a problem. The other teams like Houston and the Steelers may have been better overall draws but neither was every close to being the 7th seed so I have no idea what the Get up folks are talking about. Payton's team did give the Bills O some issues in that matchup last year but that was also with Dorsey at OC if I recall correctly when the entire team was in a bad funk.
I think you've outlined why from an O standpoint Buffalo should be able to counter Denver even with a great CB like Surtain, Buffalo can just throw away from whoever is on him and Buffalo also should be able to attack the middle of the field.
From a defensive standpoint I do worry a bit. The defense overall has not been good this year and the safety play again yesterday was at times atrocious. Denver has some real nice O weapons though their running game is inconsistent and has struggled mightily at times. In the end it's a game Buffalo has to and should win. If you can't beat Denver at home how the hell are you gonna finally beat the horseshoe up their ass Chiefs.
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Surtain usually never travels, although he did most of the Cinci game. I’d be shocked if he shadowed a Bills wr
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nix is gonna look like a deer in headlights . I’m not worried about this game Unless Josh gets hurt
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They certainly could lose, I doubt they will but at this point anything other than a trip to the Super Bowl will be disappointing, there are certainly levels to this but losing any of the next 3 games would all be same stuff different day. I mean I won't feel any better losing next weekend after beating the 7th seed. I just won't, I know the logic isn't all that sound but to me I just feel it's super bowl or bust and like I said, I expect the Bills to win whether it be close or a blow out. Time to get it done.
I won't be calling for McDermott's head either way but they need to find some more talent on defense. Its the playoffs and it can get crazy at times and Payton is going to throw some serious junk their way, he's playing with house money which is a bit scary
I also could see the Ravens losing to the Steelers
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I'd expect the Bills to shut down the Broncos running game to start and make Nix become a pure dropback passer. Denver statiscally wasn't a great running team this year but their offensive line is good and the Bills defense has been not so great this year. Need good games from the IDL (DQ/Oliver)
On the flip side the Broncos play very similarly to the Lions on defense, would expect the Bills to have a gameplan involving the RBs in the passing game and target the middle of the field.
I think the Bills will win, as far as how close, that will be determined by how well the Bills D-line plays.
On the flip side the Broncos play very similarly to the Lions on defense, would expect the Bills to have a gameplan involving the RBs in the passing game and target the middle of the field.
I think the Bills will win, as far as how close, that will be determined by how well the Bills D-line plays.
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That’s good for us. We have the better passer. Extreme crap weather reduces the disparity between skilled and less skilled offenses.
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Bills will do what they always do. Get run on early . Then somehow they become stingy later
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Can only happen if Playoff Lamar shows up.
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Well with the Bills having the probable MVP and SB or bust, favored by more than a td is expected.
I think this is more simple than usual; disrupt JA and the Broncos have a chance, if not they lose. I'm more worried about Allens running than anything. Can't wait to see the Bills O line vs Denver's D line matchup, somethings got to give.
The Broncos have adjusted their running game later in the season by switching Williams out with McLaughlin, and using Estime as the power back. Expect a lot of screens, reverses and sweeps with the quasi joker, Mims. On D, the Broncos weakness is LB, so JA running, and dumping off to the backs can do damage. Mims is dangerous in the return game. Payton and Vance will coach aggressively.
All that said, it's hard to envision a rookie qb rolling into Buffalo and winning.
I think this is more simple than usual; disrupt JA and the Broncos have a chance, if not they lose. I'm more worried about Allens running than anything. Can't wait to see the Bills O line vs Denver's D line matchup, somethings got to give.
The Broncos have adjusted their running game later in the season by switching Williams out with McLaughlin, and using Estime as the power back. Expect a lot of screens, reverses and sweeps with the quasi joker, Mims. On D, the Broncos weakness is LB, so JA running, and dumping off to the backs can do damage. Mims is dangerous in the return game. Payton and Vance will coach aggressively.
All that said, it's hard to envision a rookie qb rolling into Buffalo and winning.
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Surprisingly Estime not active today, Badie active, he's a small fast tough runner who's been hurt for a while.
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Yep give up a 3rd and long early and then safeties beat.
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