Bob Diaco HIre

[Orangetradition44]

They REVELED in our GROB years. Loved it, gloated, bragged about over taking us, claimed we'd never compete again, pontificated that tradition meant nothing. Even more than Rutgers, they had a cabal of a$$hole posters that pissed on everything syracuse.

I don't really feel bad when people say . Sorry.

Be careful. You could be banished from this board for saying anything positive about UConn. Make it easy on yourself and just say that UConn is headed for some of the worst failures ever endured by a college athletic program, so bad that they will likely drop athletics altogether.

 

[tep624]

Good recruiter or not, I just don't see what UCONN has to offer to compete and land program changing talent - which is exactly what they need.

Of the major programs in the Northeast and down the Seaboard, who do they have an academic advantage over?

Who do they have a conference advantage over?

Outside of New England, which is not exactly fertile football talent grounds (yes I know CT has been good to Syracuse over the years but it's not exactly Texas or Florida), who do they have a geographic advantage over?

They been a losing program, so they don't have the "recent success" thing to parlay.

They have little if any history, so the tradition and prestige card is out.

Maybe facilities...but I think this is really going to come down to Diaco, his staff, and their existing relationships with HS coaches.

Maybe he busts out the Greg Schiano path to success notebook, starts scheduling Army, a 1AA, a MAC team, and the lowest Power 5 conference team he can find OOC for the next 6-8 years. That would help. Or go the Bill Snyder route and mine the hell out of the JUCO/Prep circuit.

But I'm not really seeing it.

 

[dasher]

never.

not once, did i ever realistically expect Syracuse to fire a coach in year 1. not in a million years.

but apparently in your world, i said i expected him to be canned.

oh well...

try and keep up, i dont like holding hands.

So you are saying that coach SS will be fired if he doesn't win the bowl game? Wow

 

[KaiserUEO]

So you are saying that coach SS will be fired if he doesn't win the bowl game? Wow

No. I'm saying he will be fired if he doesn't win the coin toss.







Convincingly.

 

[RF2044]

They REVELED in our GROB years. Loved it, gloated, bragged about over taking us, claimed we'd never compete again, pontificated that tradition meant nothing. Even more than Rutgers, they had a cabal of a$$hole posters that pissed on everything syracuse.

I don't really feel bad when people say . Sorry.

Hear hear.

Screw them.

 

[dasher]

Hear hear.

Screw them.

But I hear they are great guys.

 

[IthacaMatt]

Good recruiter or not, I just don't see what UCONN has to offer to compete and land program changing talent - which is exactly what they need.

Of the major programs in the Northeast and down the Seaboard, who do they have an academic advantage over?

Who do they have a conference advantage over?

Outside of New England, which is not exactly fertile football talent grounds (yes I know CT has been good to Syracuse over the years but it's not exactly Texas or Florida), who do they have a geographic advantage over?

They been a losing program, so they don't have the "recent success" thing to parlay.

They have little if any history, so the tradition and prestige card is out.

Maybe facilities...but I think this is really going to come down to Diaco, his staff, and their existing relationships with HS coaches.

Maybe he busts out the Greg Schiano path to success notebook, starts scheduling Army, a 1AA, a MAC team, and the lowest Power 5 conference team he can find OOC for the next 6-8 years. That would help. Or go the Bill Snyder route and mine the hell out of the JUCO/Prep circuit.

But I'm not really seeing it.

Stepping stone job. He figures with Louisville out of the ACK! conference, he should be able to generate some wins in a couple years and be out of there by year 3 or 4 for a BCS job.

 

[Crusty]

Probably jumped too soon. I fear it is a bad move for a good guy.

 

[Chip]

Probably jumped too soon. I fear it is a bad move for a good guy.

Maybe he'll take the Penn State job before he coaches a game at UConn.

Man would that be funny.

 

[Crusty]

Maybe he'll take the Penn State job before he coaches a game at UConn.

Man would that be funny.

I was thinking the same thing this morning.

 

[SBro44]

Good recruiter or not, I just don't see what UCONN has to offer to compete and land program changing talent - which is exactly what they need.

Of the major programs in the Northeast and down the Seaboard, who do they have an academic advantage over?

Who do they have a conference advantage over?

Outside of New England, which is not exactly fertile football talent grounds (yes I know CT has been good to Syracuse over the years but it's not exactly Texas or Florida), who do they have a geographic advantage over?

They been a losing program, so they don't have the "recent success" thing to parlay.

They have little if any history, so the tradition and prestige card is out.

Maybe facilities...but I think this is really going to come down to Diaco, his staff, and their existing relationships with HS coaches.

Maybe he busts out the Greg Schiano path to success notebook, starts scheduling Army, a 1AA, a MAC team, and the lowest Power 5 conference team he can find OOC for the next 6-8 years. That would help. Or go the Bill Snyder route and mine the hell out of the JUCO/Prep circuit.

But I'm not really seeing it.

I agree with 90% of what you are saying, but to be fair. Uconn has great academics (especially for Business school).

But if they couldnt sell playing for the innovative G Deleone offense, what can they sell??!

 

[Alsacs]

It took from 2005 till 2010 and a good coach(Doug Marrone) for Syracuse overcome the pitfalls of the Greg Robinson. UConn has gone 5-7, 5-7, 3-9 the past 3 years their coach is going to be coaching in a mid-major conference that didn't have much talent this year, and while Diaco can recruit NYC and NJ we don't know how we will do developing the talent or game planning. UConn has 4 years of Big East exit money to remain relevant in college football. Central Florida, Houston, East Carolina, South Florida, Cincinnati all have advantages over them in football, and unless they win 10 games in a year they will be playing the Potato Bowl in Boise or something. I actually feel more bad for UConn fans than laugh at them as they have gotten kicked in the n*ts enough in conference realignment that its not fun to laugh at the only kid without a date for the prom.

UConn football is now a mid-major. Look what mid-major coaches do in the MAC they rebuild the programs then jump to BCS jobs. The MAC has been a feeder to the B1G and ACC. Wake hired the Bowling Green coach, NC State hired the Northern Illinois coach last year, Purdue hired the Northern Illinois coach before that, Illinois hired the Toledo coach, Minnesota hired a MAC coach. UConn's coach if he makes them decent will get hired by a B1G or ACC school its the circle of life for mid-major coaches.

 

[All4SU]

This past year hurt UConn tremendously. If Daico doesn't hit the ground running, and turn out a Addazzio type of turn around in year one, he will have an impossible time making that program look like it is moving forward. It could be GRob-esque. Daico looks like he has some credentials, but as others have said, recruiting to ND is a little easier than most. Charisma and a winning smile will get you only so far in a program rebuild. As we know. AD being coordinator at ND is not necessarily more impressive than being coordinator at Stanford under Harbaugh and at Michigan. He has a huge task ahead of him. And with UConn on outside looking in on the major conference shuffle, the clock is ticking loudly. I predict bad things for UConn.

 

[tep624]

I agree with 90% of what you are saying, but to be fair. Uconn has great academics (especially for Business school).

But if they couldnt sell playing for the innovative G Deleone offense, what can they sell??!

I'm not saying UCONN is a community college, but compared to Pitt, Syracuse, BC, Penn State, Rutgers - they're definitely don't have the academic reputation to give them a distinct advantage over those schools. That's all.

 

[All4SU]

I'm not saying UCONN is a community college, but compared to Pitt, Syracuse, BC, Penn State, Rutgers - they're definitely don't have the academic reputation to give them a distinct advantage over those schools. That's all.

I don't think the academics hurt them that much. Most of these kids couldn't care less. But each year brings them further and further from BCS/Playoff relevance. And that will start to hurt quickly. As it will hurt all of the teams banished to the All-Merican conference. You're either at the big boy table, or you're squatting on a little chair eating from paper plates and drinking from a sippy cup.

 

[Crusty]

There is now so much money on the table that the Power 5 conferences are going to start flexing their muscles big time from here on out. The only thing that is going to slow them down will be anti-trust fears and they can probably wind their way through that briar patch.

Three years from now the distance between the power 5 and everyone else might startle us.

 

[Moontan]

UConn football is now a mid-major.

Honestly, they were never more than this.

Timing is a big thing in life, and athletics departments. Had they gotten their act together 5, 10, or 22 years earlier, things might've been different.

It's not permanent doom and gloom... yet. 14-school conferences don't work for football. Expect the Big XII to live up to its name and the three 14-school conferences to hit 16. Assuming that the XII doesn't melt down, that leaves 8 open spots. BYU, Cincy, USF, UCF and Yukon would appear to be leading contenders for those spots.

Had Yukon seen the light earlier then they might've been in the ACC instead of Louisville, or in the B1G instead of NJSU.

 

[Crusty]

Honestly, they were never more than this.

Timing is a big thing in life, and athletics departments. Had they gotten their act together 5, 10, or 22 years earlier, things might've been different.

It's not permanent doom and gloom... yet. 14-school conferences don't work for football. Expect the Big XII to live up to its name and the three 14-school conferences to hit 16. Assuming that the XII doesn't melt down, that leaves 8 open spots. BYU, Cincy, USF, UCF and Yukon would appear to be leading contenders for those spots.

Had Yukon seen the light earlier then they might've been in the ACC instead of Louisville, or in the B1G instead of NJSU.

That would make the Big XII one ugly travel conference.
I suppose you could have UConn, USF, UCF, WVU and Cincy and two unlucky others in an Eastern Division - what a mess.

 

[Moontan]

That would make the Big XII one ugly travel conference.
I suppose you could have UConn, USF, UCF, WVU and Cincy and two unlucky others in an Eastern Division - what a mess.

BYU and Cincy would round out the XII just fine. It's likely both schools' best landing spot.

12- and 16- team football conferences work out much better than 14. That's why I suggested that the current 14-school conferences would go to 16.

Don't be shocked to see 13-game seasons appear on the horizon. It's that and/or pods to allow better in-conference rotations. If the ACC & SEC are directed to 9-game schedules + intra-conference games, then they'll need room for 2 additional games (usually ducks).

13 games + CCG + 3-game playoff (8 teams) = 17 games... likely too much of a good thing, hence the emphasis on or.

 

[Crusty]

BYU and Cincy would round out the XII just fine. It's likely both schools' best landing spot.

12- and 16- team football conferences work out much better than 14. That's why I suggested that the current 14-school conferences would go to 16.

Don't be shocked to see 13-game seasons appear on the horizon. It's that and/or pods to allow better in-conference rotations. If the ACC & SEC are directed to 9-game schedules + intra-conference games, then they'll need room for 2 additional games (usually ducks).

13 games + CCG + 3-game playoff (8 teams) = 17 games... likely too much of a good thing, hence the emphasis on or.

Yes, BYU and Cincy make sense.

 

[All4SU]

Honestly, they were never more than this.

Timing is a big thing in life, and athletics departments. Had they gotten their act together 5, 10, or 22 years earlier, things might've been different.

It's not permanent doom and gloom... yet. 14-school conferences don't work for football. Expect the Big XII to live up to its name and the three 14-school conferences to hit 16. Assuming that the XII doesn't melt down, that leaves 8 open spots. BYU, Cincy, USF, UCF and Yukon would appear to be leading contenders for those spots.

Had Yukon seen the light earlier then they might've been in the ACC instead of Louisville, or in the B1G instead of NJSU.

Exactly right. Their delayed entry into Big East football, dragging their feet for a decade or more, helped them make a smoother transition than most teams get. But ultimately, it was their demise. Serves them right.

 

[BlazeOrange]

Yes, BYU and Cincy make sense.

Divisions?
Texas/Texas Tech/Baylor/TCU/Oklahoma/Oklahoma St.
West Va/Cinci/Iowa State/Kansas/Kansas State/BYU

 

[Alsacs]

If the Big XII expands they will likely go with 1. Cincinnati due to their decent football, basketball, and opening up a new good market. 2. BYU- they are mini-Notre Dame and have a national brand with decent football and basketball. 3. Central Florida- they are a good team in a great recruiting ground. 4. South Florida- this team is UCF without winning as much. 5. UConn elite hoops, but football which drives expansion makes them less likely than the other 4.

When the B1G goes to 16 if they do I can't Ohio State/Michigan allowing another Rutgers in. The B1G either eats up 2 of Oklahoma,Kansas, Texas or does nothing till the ACC GOR ends to make a run at them.

 

[Mistakebythelake90]

All things considered, Diaco is about as good as UConn could have hoped for. It obviously remains to be seen if he can recruit for UConn compared to ND, but I thought that they did as well as could be expected.

 

[sutomcat]

All things considered, Diaco is about as good as UConn could have hoped for. It obviously remains to be seen if he can recruit for UConn compared to ND, but I thought that they did as well as could be expected.

Assuming this report to be correct, it is kind of shocking that he was unable to convince even one of the coaches on the ND staff to follow him to UConn.

He is not off to a good start.