Bryant selfish?

[MadNY3]

Dabo was selfish to not redshirt Lawrence. He wanted to make sure he got to use him all 3 years, instead of the kid playing 2 and leaving.

Wow I think this is way off.

You don’t name him the starting QB just to be selfish. You do it because you think it’s the best choice.

 

[CousCuse]

Maybe the series that Bryant was in were heavy on the rushing plays and heavy on the passing plays for Lawrence. That would explain the discrepancy in the passing stats. And that would explain what Bryant meant by he didn't get a fair shake.

 

[Ish88888]

Dabo is dumb for rocking the boat. People can call him a good guy or whatever. You’re playing for the ship... just keep rotating QB’s

Just how did Dabo rock the boat? By letting Lawrence compete with him for the starting job? That's life. ED had to win his job AGAIN this year with TD being so good and skilled. Was Dino ALSO rocking the boat?

We live in a different time. This has been going on for 50 years. Difference now is these kids get to transfer on the spot when they get beat out thinking they are pro prospects and go and play somewhere else for a years audition for the pros. Yes, they leave their team hanging. Dabo was being a fb coach playing his best.

 

[Tigerpaw]

When Dabo needed a win in College Station, it wasn't Lawrence that got it for them. Bryant didn't do anything to lose his job. I could see if he was playing poorly like Malik Rosier at Miami. The public pressure didn't help Kelly's case at all. People were waiting for him to fail. So yes, if I got replaced by someone when I did nothing to lose my spot, I'd take my ball home too. Happens in the corporate world all the time when you get passed over for a promotion.

So, if Lawrence is putting up better numbers than Bryant he shouldnt start? Lawrence had 9 td tosses, Bryant had 2, and thats just one of many stats he was trailing in.

 

[CousCuse]

So, if Lawrence is putting up better numbers than Bryant he shouldnt start? Lawrence had 9 td tosses, Bryant had 2, and thats just one of many stats he was trailing in.

How does Bryant end up with so few TD passes? The receivers are so big and strong and fast, they would come down with most anything thrown near them. They had few passing plays called when Bryant was in, that's how.

 

[TigerTown]

Dabo made a stupid decision and that kid is going to get a beating all season because of it. They will try to kill him in Tallahassee.

Good thing we have a solid backup.

 

[cuse309]

The kid is a tool

Great, thoughtful take. Such insight. Tell us more.:bat:

 

[cuse309]

He quit the team mid season. He did what was only in his own self interest. Both of those things are selfish. It's not even debatable.

The question is, were his selfish acts justified or appropriate? In today's day-and-age, I'm ok with it.

I doubt that part. He has the financial security of his family to think about. Bryant came off like a trophy generation whiner, when he says he wan't given a chance. However, he's not selfish for wanting what's best for his future. That is just asinine.

 

[cuse309]

The hypothetical you use is not analogous.

weak.

 

[bcubs9497]

That just goes to show you how these athletes are viewed. They are only valued for what they can bring to a program. They are hardly even thought of as human beings by many. Dude waited his turn behind Watson, then was successful when he got his chance..then got passed over by a freshman.

Do they really want him to just call it a career? These guys aren't paid, so It's not like the pros where you can sit and get your money anyway. Blacklidge is an idiot.

It's astounding. If you've ever had a kid with serious D1 potential, you know exactly what I mean when I say it's almost as if they're cattle. Or a commodity. Almost has to be that way, I suppose, because of the money and pressure involved in major college sports.

 

[CousCuse]

Good thing we have a solid backup.

Your team has elite talent all over the field. But I have seen many equally talented team stumble and lose to average teams who play together, for each other. Hard to believe that's truly the state of affairs in the Clemson locker room.

 

[Shrmdougluvr]

I doubt that part. He has the financial security of his family to think about. Bryant came off like a trophy generation whiner, when he says he wan't given a chance. However, he's not selfish for wanting what's best for his future. That is just asinine.

Wanting what is best for you is, by definition, selfish. I don't understand what's so difficult to understand about that. The question is, whether his selfishness is justified. For Christ's sake, I'm on record twice now in saying I am fine with his selfish decision.

 

[Shrmdougluvr]

weak.

The analogy should be you're at work spearheading some project as a senior member of a team, and the supervisor relegates you to a secondary role because he/she thinks a new employee is better suited for the task you were supposed to perform. You then decide, maybe because you see the writing on the wall and are unfulfilled with the reduced role and how you perceive it to limit your upward mobility, to seek employment elsewhere.

 

[sufandu]

If he isn't good enough to stay if front of a freshman, so his hope for the nfl are slim. This may be the last chance for him to play football. I can't blame him one bit. He was never going to look back and say, "Man that was fun sitting on the bench after starting for one year." And that's what sports are supposed to be about, fun.

 

[Cusefan0307]

If coaches are free to leave players in the dust, players should be too. There's nothing wrong with his decision. Adults need to stop criticizing college students for doing what's best for them.

 

[Newhouser]

Maybe Lawrence said "if I don't start and take most of the snaps I'm leaving"? We don't know anything about their program other than a stupid comment from an out of date Todd Blackledge. I don't see the villain here. It is a business for the program and the player and both made business decisions.

 

[RandomGuy]

Dabo did the kid a solid, and he respected him as a person, first. He gave him a chance to fulfill any NFL dreams, if he has them. Many coaches may not have. I think that goes a long way in the locker room. I respect both of their decisions.

 

[cuse309]

The analogy should be you're at work spearheading some project as a senior member of a team, and the supervisor relegates you to a secondary role because he/she thinks a new employee is better suited for the task you were supposed to perform. You then decide, maybe because you see the writing on the wall and are unfulfilled with the reduced role and how you perceive it to limit your upward mobility, to seek employment elsewhere.

Right...so what would make the person seeking employment elsewhere a "tool" as you originally posted? Seeking employment elsewhere, because it opens up more opportunities is exactly why he wants to transfer. Your response actually refutes your claim that he's a tool.

 

[cuse309]

Wanting what is best for you is, by definition, selfish. I don't understand what's so difficult to understand about that. The question is, whether his selfishness is justified. For Christ's sake, I'm on record twice now in saying I am fine with his selfish decision.

Selfish implies that he's thinking only of himself. Don't you think he's thinking about his future wife/child, and current family members who he could help out by going to the NFL?

 

[Shrmdougluvr]

Right...so what would make the person seeking employment elsewhere a "tool" as you originally posted? Seeking employment elsewhere, because it opens up more opportunities is exactly why he wants to transfer. Your response actually refutes your claim that he's a tool.

I didnt post that he's a "tool."

My take was simply, I don't get why people are defending him as not selfish. He is being selfish, and that's ok.

 

[cuse309]

I didnt post that he's a "tool."

My take was simply, I don't get why people are defending him as not selfish. He is being selfish, and that's ok.

You're right. My bad. I mistakenly thought I was responding to the "tool" post. I like your take.

 

[pacusewife]

The only thing that bugged me the tiniest bit was the “not given a chance” comment... but I don’t know the inner workings there so perhaps something went down that validates that comment. I also half wrote that off to being an emotionally charged comment. Either way, from the outside I don’t see an issue with how this all went down.

 

[cuse10]

The only thing that bugged me the tiniest bit was the “not given a chance” comment... but I don’t know the inner workings there so perhaps something went down that validates that comment. I also half wrote that off to being an emotionally charged comment. Either way, from the outside I don’t see an issue with how this all went down.

Given a chance to me meant given a chance to screw up and rightfully lose the job like Rosier at Miami. Splitting time is showing him early that you don't have the confidence in him.

 

[RandomGuy]

I didnt post that he's a "tool."

My take was simply, I don't get why people are defending him as not selfish. He is being selfish, and that's ok.

The kind of selfish he is being, is the same kind we are everyday. We selfishly put ourselves through college, to earn more than others. We work extra, to selfishly provide for our family. We selfishly root for our own children, in the hopes that they will be happy. In that context, then yes, he's being selfish, and thank goodness, I'm selfish , everyday.. Good for him.

 

[wfschrec]

Maybe the series that Bryant was in were heavy on the rushing plays and heavy on the passing plays for Lawrence. That would explain the discrepancy in the passing stats. And that would explain what Bryant meant by he didn't get a fair shake.

They both had nearly the same number of passing attempts when Bryant left ... that doesn't fly ... it was 60 for Lawrence and 54 for Bryant. Lawrence is a better passer at the end of the day and it isn't even close.