Bubble Screen Execution

[CU44SE]

As Millhouse showed us with a picture, Maryland took advantage of their bubble screen. We had a chance the series before to also take advantage of Maryland and due to poor execution, we were not able to take advantage. This is the difference between big plays and a six yard loss. Now the more I watch this play, the more I believe it was supposed to be a double pass but it still should have went for big yards if everyone did their jobs. The reason I believe it was a double pass is because Phillips specifically takes 3 steps back upon the snap so the pass is backwards. Then the outside most WR who I can't tell the number goes to block a player and then proceeds to run a fly which the CB was not prepared for. Do the the camera panning down I can not tell if the safety bites down or not and if it would have been open but one thing remains constant, Flemming doesn't even attempt to block the CB who started 6 yards off the line of scrimmage which completely ruins the play. The CB was 6 yards from the line of scrimmage at the beginning of the play and just came running down to make the 6 yard stop.
Pre Snap

After Snap

 

[CU44SE]

After Flemming whiff and Outside WR breaks for the fly

 

[Millhouse]

i read your subject and assumed the body of the post would say "I'm in favor of it"

that is pretty funny. what exactly is 22 doing?

turn that phone sideways rookie! (kidding)

 

[CU44SE]

i read your subject and assumed the body of the post would say "I'm in favor of it"

that is pretty funny. what exactly is 22 doing?

turn that phone sideways rookie! (kidding)

Im not sure he even knows, after the play they showed 3 replays and he's like shaking his head looking around as to hope no one saw his inability to make a fundamental play that was necessary for the play to work.

 

[Full_Rebar]

Interesting catch. If it's a double pass, then isn't it a penalty on Lewis because he's looking to block 4 yards downfield?

At the game, it looked like it was slow from the snap to the delivery of the ball, which makes sense if Hunt was waiting for Erv to back up, but it looks like the DB just breaks on the snap and Flemming assumes he's going to come to contain on the outside.

 

[ImperialOrange]

that is pretty funny. what exactly is 22 doing?(kidding)

Getting outschemed. Flemming has no chance at making a legal block there. That pass shouldn't be thrown vs that defensive set and if the QB even glances at the defense before throwing the ball shouldn't go there.

 

[CU44SE]

Getting outschemed. Flemming has no chance at making a legal block there. That pass shouldn't be thrown vs that defensive set and if the QB even glances at the defense before throwing the ball shouldn't go there.

How doesn't flemming have a chance? The CB was 6 yards off the line of scrimmage prior to the snap. He had 6 yards to get in position to make a block?

 

[ImperialOrange]

How doesn't flemming have a chance? The CB was 6 yards off the line of scrimmage prior to the snap. He had 6 yards to get in position to make a block?

Because the Maryland DB was sitting on that play. He's 5 yards off ~1.5 yards inside and breaks on the snap. Defenders can jump the snap whereas the WR cannot or it'd be false start. A telling picture would be seeing the DB as the ball arrives to Hunt.

Honestly, the DB played it perfectly and appears to have known which play was coming.

 

[CU44SE]

Because the Maryland DB was sitting on that play. He's 5 yards off ~1.5 yards inside and breaks on the snap. Defenders can jump the snap whereas the WR cannot or it'd be false start. A telling picture would be seeing the DB as the ball arrives to Hunt.

Honestly, the DB played it perfectly and appears to have known which play was coming.

Here you go, starts his break right when everyone else on offense is starting to move. Flemming is still standing there, a yard off the line of scrimmage, and a whole 6 yards away from the player. He has plenty of time to react. Instead, Flemming takes two steps forwards and takes himself right out of position. He could have easily took 2 steps to his left and walled off the defender.

 

[StanCuse44]

Here you go, starts his break right when everyone else on offense is starting to move. Flemming is still standing there, a yard off the line of scrimmage, and a whole 6 yards away from the player. He has plenty of time to react. Instead, Flemming takes two steps forwards and takes himself right out of position. He could have easily took 2 steps to his left and walled off the defender.
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Killing me. How the heck does Flemming not even move to block? What other responsibility does he think he has at that point? Ugh.

 

[RF2044]

Killing me. How the heck does Flemming not even move to block? What other responsibility does he think he has at that point? Ugh.

Our wide receivers collectively do a poor job blockign on bubble screens, compared to how every other team out there has their WRs tie up opposing DBs.

 

[StanCuse44]

Time to revisit the "You don't block, you don't play" speech?

 

[rrlbees]

Here you go, starts his break right when everyone else on offense is starting to move. Flemming is still standing there, a yard off the line of scrimmage, and a whole 6 yards away from the player. He has plenty of time to react. Instead, Flemming takes two steps forwards and takes himself right out of position. He could have easily took 2 steps to his left and walled off the defender.

How can you tell anything by that pic?

 

[bothsocksup]

"You could positively identify the defendants for a moment of two seconds looking through this dirty window, this crud-covered screen, these trees with all those leaves, and I don’t know how many bushes.."

 

[javadoc]

Our wide receivers collectively do a poor job blockign on bubble screens, compared to how every other team out there has their WRs tie up opposing DBs.

Well then, McDonald had better get the ear of the WR coach.

 

[PhatOrange]

That’s a good catch on the possibility of a double pass and it sure looks like Lewis feigns a block and then takes off on a fly. If Erv is going to run the ball it would be obvious that Lewis is going to block that kid. It also looks somewhat as if Erv is putting the ball in a position to throw it instead of tucking it and running.

I only count 10 white jersey’s in the first frame and the 1 unaccounted has to be over Lewis – deep help. That’s the overloaded side.

This replay on TV showed the Maryland defender breaking downhill at the snap of the ball towards Philips. He knew immediately the play was a swing pass to Erv so something we’re doing telegraphed that (and we were scouted.) CMU also did this blowing up a screen. That said my guess is the RB tips his hand.

The last frame is a bit funny as Flemming is a day late going on the snap. Both teams are moving except for him.

He is not exactly head up on the receiver, that doesn’t excuse the non block but I’d question what his assignment was. You could maybe argue that because the defender takes an inside route the assignment could be to let him go anticipating Erv is going to beat him to the outside. Anyhow,

This also has to be watched in real speed. The defender closed incredibly quick. Like I said above, it was an instantaneous break to Phillips at the snap. In the second frame, Philips has just caught the ball and started to turn his body and the defender is only a step away from him moving at full speed.

 

[Millhouse]

That’s a good catch on the possibility of a double pass and it sure looks like Lewis feigns a block and then takes off on a fly. If Erv is going to run the ball it would be obvious that Lewis is going to block that kid. It also looks somewhat as if Erv is putting the ball in a position to throw it instead of tucking it and running.

I only count 10 white jersey’s in the first frame and the 1 unaccounted has to be over Lewis – deep help. That’s the overloaded side.

This replay on TV showed the Maryland defender breaking downhill at the snap of the ball towards Philips. He knew immediately the play was a swing pass to Erv so something we’re doing telegraphed that (and we were scouted.) CMU also did this blowing up a screen. That said my guess is the RB tips his hand.

The last frame is a bit funny as Flemming is a day late going on the snap. Both teams are moving except for him.

He is not exactly head up on the receiver, that doesn’t excuse the non block but I’d question what his assignment was. You could maybe argue that because the defender takes an inside route the assignment could be to let him go anticipating Erv is going to beat him to the outside. Anyhow,

This also has to be watched in real speed. The defender closed incredibly quick. Like I said above, it was an instantaneous break to Phillips at the snap. In the second frame, Philips has just caught the ball and started to turn his body and the defender is only a step away from him moving at full speed.

good call about the CMU screen. bat out of hell blew that up too. i'd love to see some vines or something showing what we're doing to give it away so much

 

[retro44]

The receivers on this team lack the discipline and the attitude to block on almost every play. Flemming just plain whiffed on the no attempt to block play.

Watch what other teams run the bubble screen and you will see that their coaching staff demands that their receivers block.

easy play to defend when most of the times our running back lines up on the left side of hunt most plays and when they are on the right side the running back flairs out for a potential swing pass. Hunt doesn't always throw to them,but they do flair out for a swing or two.
We just run the same plays over and over

 

[tbonezone]

maryland showed us how that play works. quick hit overload 3 on 2. the way we play it just needs to go away. book it. 5 yard loss

 

[upperdeck]

it was a blown play, who knows who did what. first if it was a double pass there is no reason for lewis to pretend to block and then go since there will be a safety over him. second why throw it so soon to phillips and why run this pass with phillips since AB would be the most able to probably make a decent throw. i think it was a straight swing pass thrown way too soon and hunt never even made the safety or the db honor the play long enough to let it develop