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[Orangezoo]

I think Shumpert had a season in Italy where he shot like 70% from three.

I don't think it was a high level league, but still... geez.

Shump was just one of those guys like Moten who can just score. Lacked that NBA skillet and athleticism but man- pleasure to watch on offense.

 

[longtimefan]

Shump was just one of those guys like Moten who can just score. Lacked that NBA skillet and athleticism but man- pleasure to watch on offense.

I would not make that comparison.

Shumpert's offensive game was primarily outside the 3-point line. Moten was a magician along the baseline.

 

[Orangezoo]

I would not make that comparison.

Shumpert's offensive game was primarily outside the 3-point line. Moten was a magician along the baseline.

Hang on- I'm not comparing how they scored. It's the purity on offense- smooth, confident and a pure jumper. Elite college scorers.

 

[OrangeDW]

I would not make that comparison.

Shumpert's offensive game was primarily outside the 3-point line. Moten was a magician along the baseline.

Shump had an element of craftiness to him too, and also a nice mid range jumper.

The guy is pretty underrated historically, because his senior team flopped at the end.(not his fault either)

But he had a great sophomore 6th man year on a really good team, and hit the game winning shot to beat Kentucky in the tourney.

Outstanding junior year on a 25 win team that was maybe the most overachieving regular season Orange team ever.

And then had a great senior year too - just everyone else collapsed in the last 10 games or so.

 

[OrangeDW]

No joke, during a pre-season game, I one time saw Elvir Ovcina dribbling the ball down on a 2 on 1 break as time was running down, we were down by one, and Elvir stopped at the arc and jacked a three and missed.

As infuriating as it was, it was a thing of beauty to watch Elvir have that type of chutzpah to throw that three up when we just needed two.

If that was in the regular season, I have no doubt JB would have had him killed.

It was a TERRIBLE movie but in the Wayans Brothers movie “The 6th Man” there was a tall player who kept jacking and missing stupid shots while saying things like “big man for the 3!!!” as he shot.

My friends and I used to crack up and call that guy in the movie “Ovcina”.

 

[sufandu]

It sucks that Shumpert's SU legacy (which is a great one) gets kind of jaded by Deshaun's drama.

And it's too bad an eye injury affected his play for a good chunk of a year.

 

[sufandu]

I would not make that comparison.

Shumpert's offensive game was primarily outside the 3-point line. Moten was a magician along the baseline.

Junior and senior year he did a bunch inside the arc too. I remember him shooting a little fade away around the free throw line quite a bit. He was asked to create more for himself as an upperclassman.

 

[OttoMets]

And it's too bad an eye injury affected his play for a good chunk of a year.

Courtesy of Pittsburgh.

I hate Pittsburgh.

 

[OttoMets]

Hang on- I'm not comparing how they scored. It's the purity on offense- smooth, confident and a pure jumper. Elite college scorers.

I remember when they were both freshmen my mother saying of Bland and Shumpert: "He's the one who dresses like Moten and he's the one who carries himself like Moten."

 

[shandeezy7]

Shump had an element of craftiness to him too, and also a nice mid range jumper.

The guy is pretty underrated historically, because his senior team flopped at the end.(not his fault either)

But he had a great sophomore 6th man year on a really good team, and hit the game winning shot to beat Kentucky in the tourney.

Outstanding junior year on a 25 win team that was maybe the most overachieving regular season Orange team ever.

And then had a great senior year too - just everyone else collapsed in the last 10 games or so.

Speaking of which, there are extended highlights of that rock fight - I mean game - on YouTube:

 

[OttoMets]

Speaking of which, there are extended highlights of that rock fight - I mean game - on YouTube:

Haven't seen any of that game since it happened. I do remember the constant concern about Etan's foul trouble (which he'd gotten really good about avoiding, though). Naturally Boeheim would go small, moving Blackwell to the 5, but I think that was more lack of depth than preference. Ovcina was gone, and Celuck was pretty limited.

In hindsight, that was an extraordinary stretch of recruiting drought - between Hill (1993) and Forth (2001), SU really only had one solid center. Coincidentally, I know they were involved with Jamal Magloire, but he went to UK. And I guess they missed on a ton of other good bigs in that stretch for whatever reason (sanctions...)?

 

[shandeezy7]

Haven't seen any of that game since it happened. I do remember the constant concern about Etan's foul trouble (which he'd gotten really good about avoiding, though). Naturally Boeheim would go small, moving Blackwell to the 5, but I think that was more lack of depth than preference. Ovcina was gone, and Celuck was pretty limited.

In hindsight, that was an extraordinary stretch of recruiting drought - between Hill (1993) and Forth (2001), SU really only had one solid center. Coincidentally, I know they were involved with Jamal Magloire, but he went to UK. And I guess they missed on a ton of other good bigs in that stretch for whatever reason (sanctions...)?

Winfred Walton should have filled in that gap in 1996, but academics doomed him before he could ever suit up.

 

[OttoMets]

Winfred Walton should have filled in that gap in 1996, but academics doomed him before he could ever suit up.

As far as the talent gap, sure, but he was a 4 all the way, and a pretty perimeter-oriented guy at that (more a rich-man's Blackwell than a Wallace). And while Boeheim kept us competitive with talent and cohesion at 1 through 4 during those years, it seems like it was always our lack of depth at the 5 that ended seasons early and prevented us from getting past UConn in the conference.

Other than Magloire, I don't remember too many recruiting targets we struck out on, and we obviously didn't have any great bigs matriculate and then not pan out (Eric Williams, Bobby Lazor, Charles Gelatt, those guys weren't really difference-makers). To win that many games over that time period with such a glaring weakness was really remarkable.

 

[kirbivore]

Speaking of which, there are extended highlights of that rock fight - I mean game - on YouTube:

Miss the old tourney setup of leaving the courts alone. I hate the NCAA monolith courts of today.

 

[CousCuse]

and Celuck was pretty limited.

He sure is.