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Awful game for Josh but the Wr core and Bradys playcalling was horrible. Shavers and Coleman are fn useless. They gotta get a Wr with a pulse in here and Davis active.
not going to win when your 60 million dollar QB plays like a clown. Nothing changed team goes as he goes every week. Defense gave up 24 points, never perfect but should have been enough if Josh played a competent game. Agreed though Brady has sucked past two weeks as well.

Team just doesn’t have it right now nor does Josh first and foremost. Maybe turn an interview or commercial down Josh.
 
It's time to pull the full lens on Beane and his player acquisition skills. The Bills are getting very little from their high end draft picks from the past 4/5 drafts. He is currently 0 for 2024 and 2025, outside of Walker, is not looking good. Because of all the misses in the draft and FA the Bills have very few impact players and their depth chart is full of below replacement players like Buffalo Joe, Dorian Williams, Tre, etc...

Then the next focus should be on McD... his defensive scheme is terrible and apparently unless he has two all-pros at the safety position it is completely incapable of stopping even an average offense.

I fear this team is cooked and now the real rebuild needs to begin... BUT Beane has handcuffed them by signing a bunch of long term contracts that aren't worth their cap hit (see Dawson Knox). If the Sabres are an example, I don't think Pegs has the wherewithal to get the right people in place to fix this. He did a great job when he first hired McD/Beane, but I think their time is done.
 
It's time to pull the full lens on Beane and his player acquisition skills. The Bills are getting very little from their high end draft picks from the past 4/5 drafts. He is currently 0 for 2024 and 2025, outside of Walker, is not looking good. Because of all the misses in the draft and FA the Bills have very few impact players and their depth chart is full of below replacement players like Buffalo Joe, Dorian Williams, Tre, etc...

Then the next focus should be on McD... his defensive scheme is terrible and apparently unless he has two all-pros at the safety position it is completely incapable of stopping even an average offense.

I fear this team is cooked and now the real rebuild needs to begin... BUT Beane has handcuffed them by signing a bunch of long term contracts that aren't worth their cap hit (see Dawson Knox). If the Sabres are an example, I don't think Pegs has the wherewithal to get the right people in place to fix this. He did a great job when he first hired McD/Beane, but I think their time is done.
Comparing the Sabres to the Bills is interesting to say the least. Your franchise QB needs to play better and O line needs to protect better, plain and simple. I do agree they need help at WR with Palmer out now

defense gave up 24 points last night, should have been good enough. I will blame the 60 mil dollar man first and foremost. That's what he signed up for and he knows it. A few less interviews and commercials might help. Josh has not been good other than comeback vs Baltimore.
 
Good thing we have a bye next week, this team is a mess especially defensively. That was a horrific 1st series. Getting Hoecht and Larry back will help but this team needs a trade as well.
Feeling very comfortable with my KC +850 Superbowl champs ticket. This team we've seen the movie vs KC in January. Indy's defense not Super Bowl caliber. Ravens season from hell. Chargers too injured. Broncos great D but Nix and that offense isn't good enough. Houston same as Denver. I know Jax beat KC but hard to believe the Jags could do it again in January. I also have longer shot Super Bowl tickets on TB +3000 and Seattle +6000 so KC vs either of them would be sweet.
 
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It's time to move on to a new staff to he honest. McDermotts done a hell of a job but he's reached his ceiling. Look at the defense on the field Rapp, Power, Tre White a half dozen + DE misses etc
So who's the NFL version of Phil Jackson to come in and take the superstar to the final level?
 
Feeling very comfortable with my KC +850 Superbowl champs ticket. This team we've seen the movie vs KC in January. Indy's defense not Super Bowl caliber. Ravens season from hell. Chargers too injured. Broncos great D but Nix and that offense isn't good enough. Houston same as Denver. I know Jax beat KC but hard to believe the Jags could do it again in January. I also have longer shot Super Bowl tickets on TB +3000 and Seattle +6000 so KC vs either of them would be sweet.

Yup good call I'd be shocked if they didn't win the AFC at this point. Their of course healthier then any other team and may win out at this point especially with the cough officiating cough.
 
Feeling very comfortable with my KC +850 Superbowl champs ticket. This team we've seen the movie vs KC in January. Indy's defense not Super Bowl caliber. Ravens season from hell. Chargers too injured. Broncos great D but Nix and that offense isn't good enough. Houston same as Denver. I know Jax beat KC but hard to believe the Jags could do it again in January. I also have longer shot Super Bowl tickets on TB +3000 and Seattle +6000 so KC vs either of them would be sweet.
I did the same thing before this week even started. The gap looks wider than ever - with Rice back the offenses are a push at best and obviously a big edge at Defense/Coach. It's not fair that Mahomes gets Spags forever.
 
It's time to pull the full lens on Beane and his player acquisition skills. The Bills are getting very little from their high end draft picks from the past 4/5 drafts. He is currently 0 for 2024 and 2025, outside of Walker, is not looking good. Because of all the misses in the draft and FA the Bills have very few impact players and their depth chart is full of below replacement players like Buffalo Joe, Dorian Williams, Tre, etc...

Then the next focus should be on McD... his defensive scheme is terrible and apparently unless he has two all-pros at the safety position it is completely incapable of stopping even an average offense.

I fear this team is cooked and now the real rebuild needs to begin... BUT Beane has handcuffed them by signing a bunch of long term contracts that aren't worth their cap hit (see Dawson Knox). If the Sabres are an example, I don't think Pegs has the wherewithal to get the right people in place to fix this. He did a great job when he first hired McD/Beane, but I think their time is done.
Ya they've done a brutal job. The thing is a lot of it isn't even hindsight.
Nothing you can do about Hairston going down ok but weren't the deficiencies at LB/Safety pretty apparent? I wanted to give them the benefit of the doubt there like they knew something I didn't but Shaq freaking Thompson is our best player in the back 7.
Coleman is exactly what virtually every draft analyst said he was. Stinks. Did they think McConkey couldn't play outside even though he did all the time at Georgia?
Knox was an astonishingly bad deal before the ink dried.
 
Problem for the Bills is the roster is getting old around Allen in the trenches and the skill players stink. Can't have your 2nd biggest cap hit be your second tight end.

Schedule get's more difficult going forward. Can easily see the Pats winning the division now. Buffalo still has the Bucs, Chiefs, Eagles, and Steelers. If Burrow comes back the game with the Bengals looks a bit different. If they can't score the defense is not going to hold those teams down.
 
Ya they've done a brutal job. The thing is a lot of it isn't even hindsight.
Nothing you can do about Hairston going down ok but weren't the deficiencies at LB/Safety pretty apparent? I wanted to give them the benefit of the doubt there like they knew something I didn't but Shaq freaking Thompson is our best player in the back 7.
Coleman is exactly what virtually every draft analyst said he was. Stinks. Did they think McConkey couldn't play outside even though he did all the time at Georgia?
Knox was an astonishingly bad deal before the ink dried.
Allen is better than McNabb, but a lot of what Buffalo is going through is strikingly similar to the late 90's/2000's Eagles with McNabb and Reid. From roster weaknesses to losing every big game they were favored in January.

And I know he was an a$$hat, but Diggs is on pace for 1100 yards in NE. They've never replaced that production.
 
Well that sucked. Defense was an abomination in the 1st half and then pretty darn good in the 2nd half. Think they gave up 8 total yards in the 3rd and a little over 100 in the 4th.

1st time in a long time where the OL looked brutal in pass pro though they were blitzing non-stop and we don't have the guys to get open immediately to counter it outside of Shakir. Kincaid was missed big time as he might be our 2nd best pass catcher on the team, especially in the short to intermediate where we needed it.
 
Problem for the Bills is the roster is getting old around Allen in the trenches and the skill players stink. Can't have your 2nd biggest cap hit be your second tight end.

Schedule get's more difficult going forward. Can easily see the Pats winning the division now. Buffalo still has the Bucs, Chiefs, Eagles, and Steelers. If Burrow comes back the game with the Bengals looks a bit different. If they can't score the defense is not going to hold those teams down.
eh? outside of Dawkins the o-line is pretty young... everyone else is well under 30 and even Dawkins is only 31. Even the d-line outside Bosa is relatively young. The big issue isn't age, it's that the team has very limited high end talent outside of two players because Beane has missed on so many high draft picks where teams usually get the high end talent from. The second big issue is that, most of the defensive line starters is replacement level and the back 7 starters are well below replacement level. The third big issue is that the receivers are actually worse than the back 7 of the D.

The talent on this team is laughably bad and Josh knows it which is why he is going back to hero ball Josh. I fear they have wasted/are wasting the peak of the most talented player in the league.

Sadly almost every Bills fan outside of one bills drive knew these problems going to the off season. Good news is that there is still time for the talent acquired off season on defence to shine, but it's getting late early. I also think Babich stinks and McD isn't that much better as D play callers... but who knows with all these injuries. I expect to see a LOT of improvement on D coming out of the bye week.

I think the O is irreparably broken given how bad the receivers are. The only solution is to turn that unit over and that's not happening on a bye week. So it's live and die by Josh... again.
 
Well that sucked. Defense was an abomination in the 1st half and then pretty darn good in the 2nd half. Think they gave up 8 total yards in the 3rd and a little over 100 in the 4th.

1st time in a long time where the OL looked brutal in pass pro though they were blitzing non-stop and we don't have the guys to get open immediately to counter it outside of Shakir. Kincaid was missed big time as he might be our 2nd best pass catcher on the team, especially in the short to intermediate where we needed it.
agreed on the loss of Kincaid, which what was so different of offense this year as opposed to last year? Is Mack Collins that much better than who they brought in to replace him. To me it's the O line getting steamrolled in pass protection which has left Josh looking pedestrian the past 5 weeks even when he has time he doesn't look right back there. The wide receiver group isn't very good but they got away with it last year.
 
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eh? outside of Dawkins the o-line is pretty young... everyone else is well under 30 and even Dawkins is only 31. Even the d-line outside Bosa is relatively young. The big issue isn't age, it's that the team has very limited high end talent outside of two players because Beane has missed on so many high draft picks where teams usually get the high end talent from. The second big issue is that, most of the defensive line starters is replacement level and the back 7 starters are well below replacement level. The third big issue is that the receivers are actually worse than the back 7 of the D.

The talent on this team is laughably bad and Josh knows it which is why he is going back to hero ball Josh. I fear they have wasted/are wasting the peak of the most talented player in the league.

Sadly almost every Bills fan outside of one bills drive knew these problems going to the off season. Good news is that there is still time for the talent acquired off season on defence to shine, but it's getting late early. I also think Babich stinks and McD isn't that much better as D play callers... but who knows with all these injuries. I expect to see a LOT of improvement on D coming out of the bye week.

I think the O is irreparably broken given how bad the receivers are. The only solution is to turn that unit over and that's not happening on a bye week. So it's live and die by Josh... again.
Bills defense was 9th in total D when McDermott called plays. FWIW

Agree though live and die by Josh is what it is and always has been. Not going to change, IMO
 
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eh? outside of Dawkins the o-line is pretty young... everyone else is well under 30 and even Dawkins is only 31. Even the d-line outside Bosa is relatively young. The big issue isn't age, it's that the team has very limited high end talent outside of two players because Beane has missed on so many high draft picks where teams usually get the high end talent from. The second big issue is that, most of the defensive line starters is replacement level and the back 7 starters are well below replacement level. The third big issue is that the receivers are actually worse than the back 7 of the D.

The talent on this team is laughably bad and Josh knows it which is why he is going back to hero ball Josh. I fear they have wasted/are wasting the peak of the most talented player in the league.

Sadly almost every Bills fan outside of one bills drive knew these problems going to the off season. Good news is that there is still time for the talent acquired off season on defence to shine, but it's getting late early. I also think Babich stinks and McD isn't that much better as D play callers... but who knows with all these injuries. I expect to see a LOT of improvement on D coming out of the bye week.

I think the O is irreparably broken given how bad the receivers are. The only solution is to turn that unit over and that's not happening on a bye week. So it's live and die by Josh... again.
But Dawkins is looking old this year and he plays the most important position on the line. Milano is getting up there and always injured. Combine those two with Knox and those are your 2nd, 3rd, and 4th highest paid players. Daquan Jones is up there too and now he's likely out a while. I think most of this is on Beane. I put less on the coaching staff.
 
agreed on the loss of Kincaid, which what was so different of offense this year as opposed to last year? Is Mack Collins that much better than who they brought in to replace him. To me it's the O line getting steamrolled in pass protection which has left Josh looking pedestrian the past 5 weeks even when he has time he doesn't look right back there. The wide receiver group isn't very good but they got away with it last year.
Think people are just kind of dumb in our social media instant reaction world now. Last year the team averaged 359/ypg which was 9th in the league. This year it's 378/ypg which is 3rd and 9 yards behind Dallas for 1st and yet people are so spoiled and out of touch that they think that's bad and the OC should be fired. Last night looked rough having no good answers to getting blitzed by a good defense. That happens. There are no unbeatable teams in the league. And most teams in the NFL don't have a WR1, there's only about a dozen of those guys in the world and everyone else wants one too. Only way to get them is to be bad and have a pick in the top 10-15, get stupidly lucky in the draft later or pay multiple day 1 and 2 picks in a trade.
 
eh? outside of Dawkins the o-line is pretty young... everyone else is well under 30 and even Dawkins is only 31. Even the d-line outside Bosa is relatively young. The big issue isn't age, it's that the team has very limited high end talent outside of two players because Beane has missed on so many high draft picks where teams usually get the high end talent from. The second big issue is that, most of the defensive line starters is replacement level and the back 7 starters are well below replacement level. The third big issue is that the receivers are actually worse than the back 7 of the D.

The talent on this team is laughably bad and Josh knows it which is why he is going back to hero ball Josh. I fear they have wasted/are wasting the peak of the most talented player in the league.

Sadly almost every Bills fan outside of one bills drive knew these problems going to the off season. Good news is that there is still time for the talent acquired off season on defence to shine, but it's getting late early. I also think Babich stinks and McD isn't that much better as D play callers... but who knows with all these injuries. I expect to see a LOT of improvement on D coming out of the bye week.

I think the O is irreparably broken given how bad the receivers are. The only solution is to turn that unit over and that's not happening on a bye week. So it's live and die by Josh... again.

Gabe Davis isn't Justin Jefferson but getting him active and getting another actual NFL WR out there will help a lot. They also need to bring someone else in, obviously their limited on whose available but they gotta get someone with a pulse in here be it Shaheed or Olave or whoever, at minimum get a speed guy in here somehow.

Getting the two suspended guys back and Hairston (which I think is close) should also help especially with the issues at DT. The Safeties are a hot mess, start Poyer and roll with it and bring in someone if possible though that seems unlikely. At this point I'd sign Simmons or the dude on the Ravens PS, they can't possibly be worse.
 
But Dawkins is looking old this year and he plays the most important position on the line. Milano is getting up there and always injured. Combine those two with Knox and those are your 2nd, 3rd, and 4th highest paid players. Daquan Jones is up there too and now he's likely out a while. I think most of this is on Beane. I put less on the coaching staff.

Dawkins is still pretty good, the issue is Milano who literally hasn't been healthy since 2022 and that Knox deal which smelled from the beginning. I believe they got him to take a pay cut this year or it would look even worse. I can't imagine either of those two are back next year and even with the dead money it will still free up millions.
 
Gabe Davis isn't Justin Jefferson but getting him active and getting another actual NFL WR out there will help a lot. They also need to bring someone else in, obviously their limited on whose available but they gotta get someone with a pulse in here be it Shaheed or Olave or whoever, at minimum get a speed guy in here somehow.

Getting the two suspended guys back and Hairston (which I think is close) should also help especially with the issues at DT. The Safeties are a hot mess, start Poyer and roll with it and bring in someone if possible though that seems unlikely. At this point I'd sign Simmons or the dude on the Ravens PS, they can't possibly be worse.
Benford going from a stud making no money to a bum this year was something unforseeable as well. Thought we had a shutdown corner and now he's below league average so far this year. White is bad bad. Had to figure we had a good CB1, Hairston to have an up and down rookie year as a hopefully solid CB2, Taron as our maybe best defensive player as a great nickel and then Tre just to be a part timer/backup. Instead that whole room has went to sheeeet from the jump with Taron the only one with even average grades so far.

Eyeball tells us that Bishop stinks and actually turns out that he is the highest graded player in the entire secondary at this this point.
 
agreed on the loss of Kincaid, which what was so different of offense this year as opposed to last year? Is Mack Collins that much better than who they brought in to replace him. To me it's the O line getting steamrolled in pass protection which has left Josh looking pedestrian the past 5 weeks even when he has time he doesn't look right back there. The wide receiver group isn't very good but they got away with it last year.

Kincaid was a huge loss, I also think Allen isn't playing as well as he was last year which is understandable he had just an unreal year. Hollins was a nice safety valve but his #s weren't great. I think the lack of an sort of a real WR core outside of Shakir has just caught up with them. Palmer was finally getting involved and he goes down. Coleman is exactly what we feared, not a WR at this level. Buffalo also isn't the backs in the passing game as much as last year, when's the last time we called a fn screen? Atl passed it to the backs about 20 times last night.

Either way they gotta get Gabe activated, get Samuel back out there and get a WR in a trade. Shakir, Palmer, Samuel, Davis and a trade guy isn't the Bengals or Chiefs Wr cores but that should be more then enough when Kincaid returns.
 
Kincaid was a huge loss, I also think Allen isn't playing as well as he was last year which is understandable he had just an unreal year. Hollins was a nice safety valve but his #s weren't great. I think the lack of an sort of a real WR core outside of Shakir has just caught up with them. Palmer was finally getting involved and he goes down. Coleman is exactly what we feared, not a WR at this level. Buffalo also isn't the backs in the passing game as much as last year, when's the last time we called a fn screen? Atl passed it to the backs about 20 times last night.

Either way they gotta get Gabe activated, get Samuel back out there and get a WR in a trade. Shakir, Palmer, Samuel, Davis and a trade guy isn't the Bengals or Chiefs Wr cores but that should be more then enough when Kincaid returns.
I know that for a fact. Had Cook over 10 yards receiving and he had 0. Cooked my parlay.
 
Benford going from a stud making no money to a bum this year was something unforseeable as well. Thought we had a shutdown corner and now he's below league average so far this year. White is bad bad. Had to figure we had a good CB1, Hairston to have an up and down rookie year as a hopefully solid CB2, Taron as our maybe best defensive player as a great nickel and then Tre just to be a part timer/backup. Instead that whole room has went to sheeeet from the jump with Taron the only one with even average grades so far.

Eyeball tells us that Bishop stinks and actually turns out that he is the highest graded player in the entire secondary at this this point.

Bishop has had some awful plays (see Bijan last night) but he's also flashed at times so I guess that's somewhat of a good sign. Rapp has been really bad and Tre as well. Benford I think is hopefully just in a bad stretch, he and Taron looked better in the 2nd half. The CB spot I give the front office a pass, can't anticipate both drafted guys getting hurt and on IR before the bye. Strong especially looks like he could a real player hopefully the neck injury isn't career ending.

There's no excuse for how bad the safety position is right now. There's guys out there who can help, sign them already. I'd also play Poyer more, yes he's clearly lost a step but I'd take him over everyone else back there right now.
 

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