Carrier Dome

[xc84]

Shrivel yes but they didn't go completely away. And the point was it wasn't because of any if the reasons I initially responded to. Technology kicked their ass.

I think Marketing kicked their ass. The invented the digital camera but didn't go to market with it.

 

[SmilinBob]

I think Marketing kicked their ass. The invented the digital camera but didn't go to market with it.

Too bad they didn't try to get into the cell phone biz.

 

[All4SU]

Too bad they didn't try to get into the cell phone biz.

Or dollar stores...or nail salons...or donut shops.

 

[CuseOnly]

Kodak's problem was their leadership and refusal to change with the times along with a few of the other things that a few posters mentioned. They did not have any idea what to do with their digital products being printer, cameras etc. Pricing structure was off, forecasting and manufacturing of digital products policies/procedures were from the stone age.

That is why Kodak no longer has a digital products division. They are sticking with their paper products, grande printers and chemical divisions to stay alive. They sold off tons of their patents, licensed out the Kodak name, etc., etc., etc. There is still a company that manufacturers a few of the Kodak spec'd digital cameras and you can still buy them cheap on the web.

Very sad loss and it could have been avoided with some foresight or if they asked for help or a partner sooner. I fear the same will happen with FUJI and Olympus soon as their digital point and shoot camera divisions are typically money losers that are only kept around to get the corporate name out there and in consumers hands.

 

[SmilinBob]

Or dollar stores...or nail salons...or donut shops.

Ha...I think cell phones/cameras have a bit more in common funny guy! But donut shops...I like what you're saying.

 

[rrlbees]

I don't know enough about it, but that seems to be a lack of vision and innovation as well - companies have to fight to stay #1. Either way their name isn't going on a "new" stadium either.

Some of that too. But my point is that a couple of posters are wrong when they say taxes, unions and regulations and skills drove GE, IBM, Kodak and Xerox out of CNY.

 

[rrlbees]

I think Marketing kicked their ass. The invented the digital camera but didn't go to market with it.

That too for Kodak.

 

[IthacaBarrel]

Kodak's problem was their leadership and refusal to change with the times along with a few of the other things that a few posters mentioned. They did not have any idea what to do with their digital products being printer, cameras etc. Pricing structure was off, forecasting and manufacturing of digital products policies/procedures were from the stone age.

That is why Kodak no longer has a digital products division. They are sticking with their paper products, grande printers and chemical divisions to stay alive. They sold off tons of their patents, licensed out the Kodak name, etc., etc., etc. There is still a company that manufacturers a few of the Kodak spec'd digital cameras and you can still buy them cheap on the web.

Very sad loss and it could have been avoided with some foresight or if they asked for help or a partner sooner. I fear the same will happen with FUJI and Olympus soon as their digital point and shoot camera divisions are typically money losers that are only kept around to get the corporate name out there and in consumers hands.

Olympus has a huge Medical equipment division/ arm that really carries the company. Most of the point and shoot stuff are losers at this point

 

[SmilinBob]

How about..."The Drone Dome"? Have drones flying all over the place with cameras and dropping Orange paraphernalia during TV breaks. Since we have those things forced on us anyways might as well have them pay for the retractable roof as well.

 

[CuseOnly]

Olympus has a huge Medical equipment division/ arm that really carries the company. Most of the point and shoot stuff are losers at this point

I am aware, same type of thing with FUJI. The corporate heads of both companies would just as soon stop doing business in consumer imaging, period.

Trust me I know, they are not interested in expanding those divisions.

 

[CuseOnly]

How about..."The Drone Dome"? Have drones flying all over the place with cameras and dropping Orange paraphernalia during TV breaks. Since we have those things forced on us anyways might as well have them pay for the retractable roof as well.

Funny you should mention that. Drones are now available for consumer purchase on the web and will be more prevalent very, very soon. Trust me, you will see. The FAA has no idea how to regulate them and CNY will be a test site for their use and regulation in the near future. The Sub-Standard had an article a few day ago.

 

[otisco]

It took 2 years for the New Meadowlands Stadium to get a corporate sponsor. In the NYC market.

I don't think corporations are lining up to throw big money at CNY.

I'm not sure that people understand that just because you want corporate dollars that they just magically flow.

Well, excluding Nazi Allianz Bank, you mean.

 

[SUbear]

Well you aren't correct. GE did not leave CNY. They sold off their defense business worldwide, which included CNY, to Martin Marietta. IBM sold off part of their business to Loral which then sold off parts of it to Lockheed Martin. Lockheed and Martin Marietta had merged and are Lockheed Martin. Lockheed still has that defense business in CNY in both Syracuse (GE) and Owego (IBM) and in the same plants yet smaller. And where did Kodak go? Their headquarters is still in Rochester with a manufacturing plant.[
I never mentioned GE or Kodak. You are free to think what you wish.

 

[rrlbees]

How about..."The Drone Dome"? Have drones flying all over the place with cameras and dropping Orange paraphernalia during TV breaks. Since we have those things forced on us anyways might as well have them pay for the retractable roof as well.

The airbase in Rome is going to be used to do some Drone testing.

 

[rrlbees]

I never mentioned GE or Kodak

Well the post I responded to mentioned all 4 companies. You replied to me to which I then asked you which companies. You replied "all of them".

So which ones did you mean?

 

[Jake]

I had heard some interesting chatter in past months regarding sports complexes and south campus and a singular massive donor(donation)

Haven't heard much recently.

I would never support an open air stadium here, but I don't think we can afford anything else.

My guess would be keep g the dome and building a hoops only facility

 

[oldpinepoint]

Some of that too. But my point is that a couple of posters are wrong when they say taxes, unions and regulations and skills drove GE, IBM, Kodak and Xerox out of CNY.

I wouldn't say the posters are wrong, certainly those issues didn't help the situation but they were not the primary factors for the demise of those companies in CNY

 

[oldpinepoint]

I had heard some interesting chatter in past months regarding sports complexes and south campus and a singular massive donor(donation)

Can you expand upon this? Any details?

 

[Jake]

Not much more than that. Sky top was the location, but could not get solid info on what the plan was. Could have been a pipe dream, but it was a fairly strong rumor.

 

[rrlbees]

Can you expand upon this? Any details?

Jake is donating $500m.

 

[rrlbees]

I had heard some interesting chatter in past months regarding sports complexes and south campus and a singular massive donor(donation)

Haven't heard much recently.

I would never support an open air stadium here, but I don't think we can afford anything else.

My guess would be keep g the dome and building a hoops only facility

Wonder if it could be the same guy from 5-6 years ago when it broke down.

 

[oldpinepoint]

Wonder if it could be the same guy from 5-6 years ago when it broke down.

Wonder what happened, maybe with the economy improving, improved sports teams and new chancellor it will begin to gain steam again

 

[SUbear]

Well the post I responded to mentioned all 4 companies. You replied to me to which I then asked you which companies. You replied "all of them".

So which ones did you mean?

No what I said was it was more complicated than that, you are confusing two different posters. I made no comments about those companies per se. All companies take many factors into consideration before making their business decisions, including those factors the first poster was talking about, if you can not get that I am sorry. Your mindset is apparently not open to this, okay by me.
The only company I have mentioned explicitly was the closure of NPG.
You are misreading my comments. Or are you saying it is not more complicated than the original poster stated?
In any case I am done with this. Have a good New Year.

 

[rrlbees]

No what I said was it was more complicated than that, you are confusing two different posters. I made no comments about those companies per se. All companies take many factors into consideration before making their business decisions, including those factors the first poster was talking about, if you can not get that I am sorry. Your mindset is apparently not open to this, okay by me.
The only company I have mentioned explicitly was the closure of NPG.
You are misreading my comments. Or are you saying it is not more complicated than the original poster stated?
In any case I am done with this. Have a good New Year.

I'm not confusing any posters.

I disagreed with OP.

You - "more to it than that but certainly contributing factors"

Me - "For which of those companies he listed"?

You - "all of them......"

 

[SmilinBob]

The airbase in Rome is going to be used to do some Drone testing.

Sometimes things just fall right into our laps. Got to make this happen and they can color the top camouflage.