CFP Rankings for Nov 26

[HRE Otto IV]

Rankings based off of games vs other Top 25 teams:

1. Oregon 3-0
2. Bama 3-1
3. UGA 3-2
4. Ole Miss 2-0
ASU 2-0
6. Ohio State 2-1
BYU 2-1
8. South Carolina 2-2
K State 2-2
10. Notre Dame 1-0
11. Tennessee 1-1
Boise State 1-1
Penn State 1-1
14. A&M 1-2
15. Iowa State 0-0
Miami 0-0
17. Indiana 0-1
Clemson 0-1
Texas 0-1
UNLV 0-1
SMU 0-1
Tulane 0-1
Colorado 0-1
24. Illinois 0-2
25. Mizzou 0-3

 

[orangenauburn]

I love this but you don’t go from unranked to the CFP, ain’t happening

Oh I know but it would something to see how things would play out

 

[djorange1989]

Oh I know but it would something to see how things would play out

Agree!

 

[HRE Otto IV]

If you expand the universe to Top 25 CFP, AP, Coaches you get the below. It changes things quite a bit.

1. Notre Dame 5-0 they pick up 4 extra games
2. Bama 4-1 if we are being fair they deserve to be in
3. UGA 4-2 I think they are the best team
4. Oregon 3-0
5. Ohio State 3-1
BYU 3-1 underrated
Miami 3-1 they pick up 4 games
8. A&M 3-2
9. ASU 2-0
Iowa State 2-0
SU 2-0 why are we not ranked!
12. Tennessee 2-1
Boise State 2-1
SMU 2-1 light schedule
15. Ole Miss 2-2
K State 2-2
GA Tech 2-2
18. LSU 2-3
South Carolina 2-3
Louisville 2-3
21. Penn State 1-1 their claim to fame is Illinois weak
Texas 1-1 another weak one
Colorado 1-1
Tulane 1-1
25. Florida 1-5 wow crazy hard schedule
26. Memphis 0-0
JMU 0-0
28. Indiana 0-1 so so soft
Miami OH 0-1
Army 0-1
WSU 0-1
Louisiana 0-1
33. Clemson 0-2 really they have no business being so close
Illinois 0-2 why are they ranked? Saving PSU
UNLV 0-2 why are they ahead of SU?
Iowa 0-2
37. Mizzou 0-3 why are they ranked?
Duke 0-3 why do they get votes?
Baylor 0-3 ditto?

 

[SWC75]

We need to skyrocket in the rankings if we beat Miami. At that point it could be 2 current ranked top 20 wins. Also if Georgia Tech beats Georgia they can enter the poll as well.

Prediction: If we beat Miami, even by a substantial margin, they will fall farther than we will rise.

 

[SWC75]

Isn't this more fun that arguing about whether Ohio State is the most deserving one-loss team to get into a BCS-type playoff vs. Oregon or whether Notre Dame should be left out of a four team playoff vs. Penn State?

 

[HRE Otto IV]

Really there isn't much logic to having a Top 25 when only 7 at larges are taken. What they should do is rank the current leaders in each of the 9 conferences (10 next year) in order. Then a Top 10 of everyone else. Ranking teams 16-25 season pointless. Also doing it as I suggest allows for more movement versus boxing the committee in.

Conference leaders
1. Oregon
2. Texas
3. SMU
4. Boise State
5. ASU
6. Tulane
7. Louisiana
8. Miami OH
9. Jacksonville State

That gives you a better idea of who is getting a Top 4 seed and the 5th auto bid

Top 10 at larges
1. Ohio State
2. Penn State
3. Notre Dame
4. Miami
5. UGA
6. Tennessee
7. Indiana
8. Clemson
9. Bama
10. Ole Miss

That gives you a better idea of who is close to getting the 7th at large bid.

None of the other ranked teams have a shot at the auto bid.

 

[HRE Otto IV]

Isn't this more fun that arguing about whether Ohio State is the most deserving one-loss team to get into a BCS-type playoff vs. Oregon or whether Notre Dame should be left out of a four team playoff vs. Penn State?

If you had the BCS it would likely be the B1G winner vs the SEC winner. But there would still be drama as any of those 4 current participants lose and things change a lot. Then Penn State, Notre Dame, and the ACC Champ get back into things.

A four team playoff would be wide open right now. I think the B1G, SEC, ACC champs would likely make it along with the B1G CG loser.

While there are more teams still alive now, do we really want the possibility of one of those teams winning it all? Like Tennessee or Bama or Ole Miss?

 

[MSOrange]

Isn't this more fun that arguing about whether Ohio State is the most deserving one-loss team to get into a BCS-type playoff vs. Oregon or whether Notre Dame should be left out of a four team playoff vs. Penn State?

I'll take either one over arguing over who is the best of the mediocre in basketball.

 

[HRE Otto IV]

If you expand the universe to Top 25 CFP, AP, Coaches you get the below. It changes things quite a bit.

1. Notre Dame 5-0 they pick up 4 extra games
2. Bama 4-1 if we are being fair they deserve to be in
3. UGA 4-2 I think they are the best team
4. Oregon 3-0
5. Ohio State 3-1
BYU 3-1 underrated
Miami 3-1 they pick up 4 games
8. A&M 3-2
9. ASU 2-0
Iowa State 2-0
SU 2-0 why are we not ranked!
12. Tennessee 2-1
Boise State 2-1
SMU 2-1 light schedule
15. Ole Miss 2-2
K State 2-2
GA Tech 2-2
18. LSU 2-3
South Carolina 2-3
Louisville 2-3
21. Penn State 1-1 their claim to fame is Illinois weak
Texas 1-1 another weak one
Colorado 1-1
Tulane 1-1
25. Florida 1-5 wow crazy hard schedule
26. Memphis 0-0
JMU 0-0
28. Indiana 0-1 so so soft
Miami OH 0-1
Army 0-1
WSU 0-1
Louisiana 0-1
33. Clemson 0-2 really they have no business being so close
Illinois 0-2 why are they ranked? Saving PSU
UNLV 0-2 why are they ahead of SU?
Iowa 0-2
37. Mizzou 0-3 why are they ranked?
Duke 0-3 why do they get votes?
Baylor 0-3 ditto?

If we change this to games played to show how deserving a team is...

6 games (2 teams)
Florida, UGA
-if UGA loses to GA Tech they will have 7 games, but if they win they likely knock GA Tech out of also receiving votes

5 games (6 teams)
A&M, Bama, Louisville, LSU, Notre Dame, South Carolina
-A&M will add Texas and South Carolina will add Clemson

4 games (6 teams)
BYU, GA Tech, K State, Miami, Ohio State, Ole Miss
-GT adds Clemson, K State adds ISU, Miami adds SU

3 games (7 teams)
Baylor, Boise St, Duke, Mizzou, Oregon, SMU, Tennessee
-a little on the light side for these teams

2 games (11 teams)
ASU, Clemson, Colorado, Illinois, Iowa, ISU, PSU, SU, Texas, Tulane, UNLV
-Clemson adds South Carolina but still light, ISU adds K State, SU adds Miami, Texas adds A&M but still light. Penn State looks really bad here. Not sure why PSU and Texas are locks for an at large when they haven't played anyone.

1 game (5 teams)
Army, Indiana, Louisiana, Miami OH, WSU
-Indiana like PSU hard to give either a home playoff game based off these.

0 games (2 teams)
JMU, Memphis
-how the heck do either get votes?

 

[SWC75]

If you had the BCS it would likely be the B1G winner vs the SEC winner. But there would still be drama as any of those 4 current participants lose and things change a lot. Then Penn State, Notre Dame, and the ACC Champ get back into things.

A four team playoff would be wide open right now. I think the B1G, SEC, ACC champs would likely make it along with the B1G CG loser.

While there are more teams still alive now, do we really want the possibility of one of those teams winning it all? Like Tennessee or Bama or Ole Miss?

If they win four games against higher seeded teams, they will deserve it. Meanwhile more schools and fan bases are still alive. You want a balance between quality and anticipation. 2 and 4 didn't achieve it. This does, although I prefer 16 with full Group of 5 participation, since I hate byes and any conference given D1A status should have a road to the title or they shouldn't be in the division.