Cincinnati 34, Miami 23. Final.

[orange_in_VA]

just have one division ugh

There needs to be some kind of change. Playing teams in our conference every what is it, 7 years? That's absurd.

 

[Alsacs]

just have one division ugh

3+5+5 model is by the far the best solution.(3 annual opponents, play 5 other teams year 1, play other 5 teams year 2 so on.)
I mean you would play every school home/home over 4 years and it would work. I think the ACC is still waiting to possible implement this solution.

 

[Scooch]

0 - 4 against the Coastal; would it matter?

Of course it would matter. That division sucks. If we got back to 90s-era SU performance we'd win that division more years than not.

 

[Nicknack]

Of course it would matter. That division sucks. If we got back to 90s-era SU performance we'd win that division more years than not.

True, but Miami and Vtech could say the same and then we would have our hands full. We never did compete very well against Miami (except when they got hit with sanctions). I'm not really worried about the divisions because everything in football is cyclical. Many are treating Clemson like one of the big boys who compete for national championships every year. That's just not true... they're just on the upside of one of their own cycles. Mediocrity is right around the corner for them. I fully expect Miami and VTech to get better which will change the landscape of the Coastal division. We're in a tough spot right now but things will change as we continue to improve.

 

[Alsacs]

True, but Miami and Vtech could say the same and then we would have our hands full. We never did compete very well against Miami (except when they got hit with sanctions). I'm not really worried about the divisions because everything in football is cyclical. Many are treating Clemson like one of the big boys who compete for national championships every year. That's just not true... they're just on the upside of one of their own cycles. Mediocrity is right around the corner for them. I fully expect Miami and VTech to get better which will change the landscape of the Coastal division. We're in a tough spot right now but things will change as we continue to improve.

Clemson has a damn good history. They won a NC in 1981 and have put a lot of players in the NFL.
Clemson is an SEC fanbase in the ACC. With their recruiting hotbeds they are going to be good a lot more than not.
VPI is going thru the Bobby Bowden ending with Beamer. Their next HC needs to be somebody.
VPI FB= SU BB but SU BB has won a NC.
Miami needs the right coach they will always get talent.
We could do a lot better in the Coastal than the Atlantic.

 

[GoSU96]

we were talking about yards being predictive of record in the long run in another thread. miami last year is the biggest exception i can think of.

430 ypg on offense, 330 ypg on defense. they were 100 yards better on offense. 30% difference. Ending up 6-7 outgaining your opponents like that is a What season

Yep, UCF in 2010 and Miami last year are the only teams with a combined offense and defense ranking of less than 60 to have a losing season since 2009.

That is really under performing. 74 teams have been 59 or lower, averaged 10.7 wins.

 

[Millhouse]

Yep, UCF in 2010 and Miami last year are the only teams with a combined offense and defense ranking of less than 60 to have a losing season since 2009.

That is really under performing. 74 teams have been 59 or lower, averaged 10.7 wins.

showing my bias here by not checking first but i bet there were a lot of stupid punts

 

[orangefog]

Miami is such a sleeping giant. I hope they keep Golden forever.

 

[cvilleorange]

i would like to see Charlie Strong at Miami- would kill it in recruiting. It would help us to have better quality in the ACC. He won't likely last long at Texas

 

[HtownOrange]

Clemson has a damn good history. They won a NC in 1981 and have put a lot of players in the NFL.
Clemson is an SEC fanbase in the ACC. With their recruiting hotbeds they are going to be good a lot more than not.
VPI is going thru the Bobby Bowden ending with Beamer. Their next HC needs to be somebody.
VPI FB= SU BB but SU BB has won a NC.
Miami needs the right coach they will always get talent.
We could do a lot better in the Coastal than the Atlantic.

You are way too generous to VPI/Beamer. SU Hoops has won MANY big time games. VPI has won very few big time games and usually rolls over for big name teams (whether up or down). I hope Beamer holds on for a few more years and deflates the VPI fantasy that never was.

Clemson is historically on par with Syracuse. 'Nuff said. Raising them above the historical prominence of Syracuse is a fallacy that leads to too many CFB fans thinking Syracuse is just a flash in the pan when we win. Add to that the fact that Clemson had the easy run of the ACC for 40 years prior to FSU joining and one can see that their record is skewed (not on VPI or recent Rutgers levels).

 

[orangechef]

saw clemson posting garbage they are ny's college team on twitter the other day. Even if its bad for us I hope they lose by 40.

Can't wait to get them in the Dome this year!!

 

[Full_Rebar]

If your HC wears a dress shirt and tie in the heat in Miami, he's probably the ultimate meathead coach. Kaaya might be the best NFL prospect among college QB's and he's dealing with a coach who wants to win 17-13. Miami has talent, but they don't have a guy who wants to utilize said talent.

Penn State fans will embrace Golden and his ties when he returns after the inevitable Franklin fiasco.

 

[Millhouse]

If your HC wears a dress shirt and tie in the heat in Miami, he's probably the ultimate meathead coach. Kaaya might be the best NFL prospect among college QB's and he's dealing with a coach who wants to win 17-13. Miami has talent, but they don't have a guy who wants to utilize said talent.

Penn State fans will embrace Golden and his ties when he returns after the inevitable Franklin fiasco.

rex ryan wore a sweater vest sunday in miami, i couldn't believe it

 

[Bayside44]

You are way too generous to VPI/Beamer. SU Hoops has won MANY big time games. VPI has won very few big time games and usually rolls over for big name teams (whether up or down). I hope Beamer holds on for a few more years and deflates the VPI fantasy that never was.

Clemson is historically on par with Syracuse. 'Nuff said. Raising them above the historical prominence of Syracuse is a fallacy that leads to too many CFB fans thinking Syracuse is just a flash in the pan when we win. Add to that the fact that Clemson had the easy run of the ACC for 40 years prior to FSU joining and one can see that their record is skewed (not on VPI or recent Rutgers levels).

You're being pretty hard on Beamer. Dude is a hall of famer who build that stadium and fills it up. Since the 90s ends each season ranked more often than not with a handful of top 10 years.

http://mcubed.net/ncaaf/teams/vatech.shtml

That being said so wish we were on their side in the ACC, much easier path.

 

[OrangePA]

I want to see the American Conference do well for a few reasons. First, I just don't like the idea of a limited number of schools deciding to corner the college football market. The NC should be open to more schools and more conferences. And, second, if the American Conference improves its play there will be less of a chance that UConn somehow gets into the ACC - I never want to see that program again.

 

[Stern]

Not sure who gets fired first. Miami's pro or college head coach.

Pro coach. But don't be shocked to see Chip Kelly coaching the Hurricanes next year

 

[cusefan88]

Miami's defense is terrible because of the coaching scheme. They don't let the players attack. Imagine SU's defense with 90% less blitzing.

 

[cuseincincy]

Al Golden is not a good coach. End of Cincy game about 2-3 minutes left...4th and goal from abut the 6 down 11 points. Had already been stopped 3 straight plays. Went for it, didn't get it, game over. I know some will applaud his aggressive play calling but you have to kick the FG there. You need a FG, TD and 2 pt conversion. Get your FG and then you still have a chance.

 

[TheCusian]

I clearly have not embraced the ACC yet since I was rooting for Cincinnati. I never rooted against a Big East team in a non-conference match-up.

You just did. Miami is more Big East than Cinci.

 

[donniesyracuse]

You just did. Miami is more Big East than Cinci.

Miami was dead to me after 2003.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

Not sure who gets fired first. Miami's pro or college head coach.