Clemson Post-Mortem

[All4SU]

Really need Barron and Villari back ASAP. Pena too.

 

[tbonezone]

how in da hell does that call get reversed ?

 

[PhatOrange]

Is there a replay of it?

 

[rvandersy]

how in da hell does that call get reversed ?

Unless there's a different angle replay, this shows no targeting. He does lead with his helmet, but hits him in the right shoulder.

how in da hell does that call get reversed ?

 

[GoSU96]

Unless there's a different angle replay, this shows no targeting. He does lead with his helmet, but hits him in the right shoulder.

What hit his Chin then?

 

[DPCuse]

how in da hell does that call get reversed ?

From that angle, it looks clean. Shoulder pads hit him.

 

[rvandersy]

What hit his Chin then?

Nothing.

 

[CuseLegacy]

Nothing.

If you take it frame by frame at the .2 mark Shrader's head is at an odd angle.
And you can see the Clemson players helmet...not a shoulder pad.

 

[rvandersy]

From getting nailed in the right shoulder.

 

[GoSU96]

Nothing.

 

[tep624]

Nothing.

Might want to invest in some glasses.

Players’ helmets don’t move sideways from getting hit in the shoulder and you could see that live without a replay.

 

[rvandersy]

Might want to invest in some glasses.

Players’ helmets don’t move sideways from getting hit in the shoulder and you could see that live without a replay.

Okay, First off all I do where glasses. I'm 66 years old. Let's agree to disagree. Even from that angle it looks like a lower shoulder upper bicep hit. I would bet from a different angle there's space between each helmet. But no need to relpy... you're probaly right.

 

[MSOrange]

 

[Cuseregular]

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And a millisecond before that shot it’s just A bit below the ear hole.

 

[suorange08]

Unless there's a different angle replay, this shows no targeting. He does lead with his helmet, but hits him in the right shoulder.

The ND guy last night got called for targeting on a hit to the QBs hip. Placement of the hit means little. As posted above, Shraders helmet moved which wouldn't happen if not directly impacted.

 

[rvandersy]

The ND guy last night got called for targeting on a hit to the QBs hip. Placement of the hit means little. As posted above, Shraders helmet moved which wouldn't happen if not directly impacted.

Jesus, okay I give up. I think reversal was the correct call, you guys don't. Let it rest. Y'all win. Okay?

 

[suorange08]

Jesus, okay I give up. I think reversal was the correct call, you guys don't. Let it rest. Y'all win. Okay?

It's not about "winning" here. You gave your opinion, though need to understand the rule and how it is to be enforced. That's it.

 

[All4SU]

 

[cuse309]

We gave them the game
1.) insane decision to kick the field goal which led to seven points the other way. Our defense was playing well just punt.
2.) signature awful drops by the receivers.
3.) two dropped potential pick sixes
4.) some unforgivable turnovers like the second fumble
5.) insane costly penalties like Wax’s though that one didn’t cost us-our defensive backs turned uncatchable passes into pass interferences because they don’t turn around and find the ball. Plus the usual pre-snap penalties.
6.) inexplicably calling long passes down the sideline when our offense had been working, particularly with shorter passes and getting the ball to Allen.
7.) Shrader sliding on designed runs when there were more yards to get. He looked hesitant to run after he fumbled on the opening drive.

You just named all the things a bad team does. We played like a bad team. Bad teams lose games.

 

[All4SU]

You just named all the things a bad team does. We played like a bad team. Bad teams lose games.

Clemson did some of those things in their losses to Duke and FSU. Sometimes even decent teams play poorly and make mistakes.

 

[cuse309]

Unless there's a different angle replay, this shows no targeting. He does lead with his helmet, but hits him in the right shoulder.

People see what they want. I love Cuse, but you can clearly see the entire crown of his helmet.

 

[cuse309]

How come we keep hearing about "this angle", and "that angle", but the only pics, and stills anyone produces, shows the entire crown of the helmet not hitting Shrader?