Coach Search Options after Autry

[tipphill]

Who should JW realistically look at?

Probably looking hard at mid major HCs is my guess. Too risky to take an assistant and too cheap to lure away a big name coach.

No former players.

 

[Franz69]

I like Bryan Hodgson.
Born and raised in Western New York.
Was Nate Oats assistant at Buffalo and Alabama.
Was lead recruiter for Alabama and brought in some great recruits.
Now he is HC at Arkansas State. Has them turned around after being awful. They beat Memphis this season.

From wikipedia:

Hodgson joined head coach Nate Oats's staff at Alabama in 2019 as the lead recruiter.[12] He oversaw a 2022 recruiting class which was ranked third in the nation by 247Sports. He was personally responsible for the recruitment of Brandon Miller and Jaden Bradley.[13]

 

[Red2003]

I admire the optimism, but unless things improve significantly by the end of the season, I don't see him anywhere but USC next fall.

He signed a month ago. The only way he can go to another school is if Autry is canned end of this year.

 

[Jack_Ball]

Well dude he's already committed. That's why we need to keep the Anthony's close to home and not be shipping their NIL $'s to USC. I don't get what you're trying to say. I'm saying it's LaLa' baby boy she is going to open the checkbook.

So you think they will open checkbook for NIL but wouldn't to hire proven coach to help their son?

 

[EnviroSciGuy]

He signed a month ago. The only way he can go to another school is if Autry is canned end of this year.

Letter of intent doesn't have the power that it used to. Even if it did, do you think SU wouldn't grant the release from it and face that PR battle?

I see him as being gone regardless of what happens to Red unless the team significantly improves.

 

[IthacaMatt]

Who are you installing tomorrow Mr ASAP? You got the buyout money ready plus the money needed for a legit contender coach?

How much money could we possibly be paying a first time coach? I mean, come on.

 

[Red2003]

So you think they will open checkbook for NIL but wouldn't to hire proven coach to help their son?

You think Melo wants to be that guy that picks his sons coaches? What kind helicopter parenting is that.

 

[Red2003]

Letter of intent doesn't have the power that it used to. Even if it did, do you think SU wouldn't grant the release from it and face that PR battle?

I see him as being gone regardless of what happens to Red unless the team significantly improves.

Show me one example of a player breaking their letter of intent and going to a different team because the team was bad and I'll believe you.

 

[Sherman20]

We need someone outside the program to exercise the demons of the past decade plus.

I do not think our program is strong enough to move on from the JB era. Too many donors are JB over everything and this has now transferred to Red. Too many donors would lose strong connections to the program by “going outside the family.” They fear having less knowledge and influence over the program. JB built connections over 5 decades and those connections fear what happens next,

I think Red gets 1 or 2 more years.

Don’t most donors just want to win? Isn’t that the point?

 

[Jack_Ball]

You think Melo wants to be that guy that picks his sons coaches? What kind helicopter parenting is that.

Not the same thing as a regular joe. He brought us a championship, has his name on basketball facility & is famous and rich alum. I know he doesnt want his son playing for losing team and not getting any looks at the next level

 

[Cusefan69]

Well dude he's already committed. That's why we need to keep the Anthony's close to home and not be shipping their NIL $'s to USC. I don't get what you're trying to say. I'm saying it's LaLa' baby boy she is going to open the checkbook.

Only one point. In the world of portal, his commit and signing NLI don't really mean anything and if things get really bad and Carmelo's kid wanted to back out, SU would probably let him or the kid could just portal.

 

[Red2003]

Not the same thing as a regular joe. He brought us a championship, has his name on basketball facility & is famous and rich alum. I know he doesnt want his son playing for losing team and not getting any looks at the next level

saying the same thing as my original post. Somehow the replies twisted it the other direction.

 

[DilemaCuse]

No one outside of the SEC and some Big 10 schools are getting a big name. That goes for UNC too. Heck UK had to settle on their 4th or 5th choice this offseason. That said Langel probably would have us with a lot better of a record with the same talent we have this year.

St Johns got Pitino
Gtown Ed Cooley
I'd consider those big hires outside of SEC

 

[Cusefan0307]

St Johns got Pitino
Gtown Ed Cooley
I'd consider those big hires outside of SEC

Georgetown is terrible. Cooley is about on par with Red after two years.

St. John’s got Pitino because he wants to settle Down in NY as he ages.

 

[EnviroSciGuy]

Show me one example of a player breaking their letter of intent and going to a different team because the team was bad and I'll believe you.

I assume, since you are posting here, that you are perfectly capable of finding this information.

It seems that the biggest difference in perspective here between you and other posters is this: many of us realize that the recruiting class is toast if we crater. You seem to think it's set in stone as long as Red returns. It isn't. Even if they somehow come aboard, they aren't going to stick around and be subjected to odd rotations where the most talented players sit. What happened with Freeman yesterday was almost too stupid to even believe, and those things add up. The solid recruiting is going to become a lot more difficult as word of the incompetence spreads among the top players.

None of the recruits are indispensible, even Kiyan. If you want them on campus to lay the foundation for the program's resurrection, then we need to hire someone worthy of them (and can replace them).

 

[kirbivore]

Bottom Line Red is bad. We hired the wrong assistant. And for all you Boeheim haters, you are getting what you wished for.

As someone who was a JB critic at the end I wanted this program burned to the ground and completely rebooted.

 

[5OutFred]

Hodgson joined head coach Nate Oats's staff at Alabama in 2019 as the lead recruiter.[12] He oversaw a 2022 recruiting class which was ranked third in the nation by 247Sports. He was personally responsible for the recruitment of Brandon Miller and Jaden Bradley.[13]

Hodgson was ranked the #2 recruiter nationally by 24/7 sports. Sound familiar to someone we know?

For the "anyone can recruit with Bama's NIL" crowd, Hodgson has also now recruited multiple four stars to Arkansas St (!)

Nationally renowned recruiter, upstate ties. I'm telling you, this guy has the juice.

 

[EnviroSciGuy]

Hodgson was ranked the #2 recruiter nationally by 24/7 sports. Sound familiar to someone we know?

For the "anyone can recruit with Bama's NIL" crowd, Hodgson has also now recruited multiple four stars to Arkansas St (!)

Nationally renowned recruiter, upstate ties. I'm telling you, this guy has the juice.

This should be the guy.

 

[Cuse1055]

This should be the guy.

Yep, should be a no brainer.

 

[CuseBlood44]

From wikipedia:

Hodgson joined head coach Nate Oats's staff at Alabama in 2019 as the lead recruiter.[12] He oversaw a 2022 recruiting class which was ranked third in the nation by 247Sports. He was personally responsible for the recruitment of Brandon Miller and Jaden Bradley.[13]

B Miller? Yikes not sure that’s a flex. Hopefully if we get him here we take in character guys like Fran does with football

 

[dan7800]

There is enough talent on the roster for this squad to go on a run, although I think the chances of that are close to zero given how it is managed.

Not from what I’ve seen

 

[hoopsupstate]

I don’t buy it that the school collects welfare checks… been hearing that song and dance forever even though the basketball program is one of the highest revenue generating teams in the country.

Not with the current attendance figures.

 

[swish7]

That’s correct, but I’d lay some good odds on it.
Anything is possible though.

Why the heck would Freeman stay here? His coach doesn't even trust him in crunch time

 

[NKR1978]

I just can’t understand how it’s even possible. All the money that Syracuse has brought in over the years. The move to the ACC was about football and more money. All these things were to boost the athletic department financially. I mean for the past 4 decades we’ve had the largest basketball crowds in the country and one of the largest brands. I get football is just swinging back in the right direction but it just doesn’t make any sense.

How much is SU losing in tickets sales and concessions because of poor basketball attendance? It has to be between $5-$10m a year at this point.

 

[Fly Rodder]

How much is SU losing in tickets sales and concessions because of poor basketball attendance? It has to be between $5-$10m a year at this point.

I don’t know but they’re not offering modified season ticket packages because they were sold out. I don’t think they got anywhere near the renewals they expected this season with the new seats etc.