Coach Search Options after Autry

[RedtheGOB]

I know people are getting excited about certain players in the moment and what could be if such and such midmajor coach brings them up to the dome next year, but they need to throw that out of their heads right now.

#1 We need a massive coaching upgrade which is coming. BUT #2 We also need a talent upgrade in the form of consistency and experience.

New coaches that are competing at the top are not pulling multiple players up from midmajors and putting them in a starting rotation especially not unproven, younger guys. Qadir and a few other are the exception, but considering he had also already played 50+ games in 2 years of ACC hoops that feels like a better template than bringing up a Freshman or Soph into the ACC.

For sure if you want to keep older, stronger guys that are in their 4th or 5th year as bench piece get them, but bringing younger guys up a level then throwing them into the rotation is not how we're winning next year immediately.

The fanbase and especially you guys here will eat our new Guards alive if they show up looking like Carlos or cracking under the pressure like George and JJ have been known to do and then we're told to give it time for them to adjust.

Also sidenote the new coach better be looking at these 28 year old Euro players that we can bring over for the front court because that is starting to feel like a must have.

It's a full rebuild fellas, not buying a midmajor coach and half their team then dropping them into the ACC.

 

[oldpinepoint]

It's an open secret at this point. Get either of the two and we're back. Make it happen.

I would be disappointed if it’s anyone other than one of these guys

 

[Sbucketball]

If the rumors are true Schertz is essentially locked up already and not here. Hodgson not a target from what I've heard but things change.

This was posted 2 weeks ago. Do you still believe this to be true? Seems surprising since Hodgson is the only candidate we've heard covets the SU job, so even if not SU's first choice, it makes sense Hodgson is at least a solid backup plan. Other posters are indicating SU may not be in a position of strength and isn't trending towards a big splash hire, so I have no idea why Hodgson wouldn't at least be a major contender (outside of SU politics).

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

We don’t know who they are targeting or who they have talked too. What we do know is that DU will never engage in a bidding war or pay the kind of money to get a Cronin, Pitino sr. Jay Wright etc. just not their M/O. Period, so leave the a list names alone. Not gonna happen!!! N

Stop with Pitino, Wright, etc. Those guys will NEVER come to Syracuse. Not in 5 lifetimes.

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

I would be disappointed if it’s anyone other than one of these guys

One of the podcasters suggested the Stanford coach. Evidently some CNY ties. Anyone have any insights there.

 

[orange79]

It's an open secret at this point. Get either of the two and we're back. Make it happen.

Way to go out on a limb there, Jeff.

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

100% all in on Hodgson. In his first year at USF, he only has 3 conference losses. One by 2 pts in double OT to UAB, 1 point loss to Wichita and 1 point loss at Temple

Can’t win the close ones

 

[Cusefan0307]

One of the podcasters suggested the Stanford coach. Evidently some CNY ties. Anyone have any insights there.

Pass.

 

[Sbucketball]

Purely for the reason SU missed on Nate Oats when he was down the road, they should be terrified that Hodgson is Oats 2.0 and not want to miss again.

Schertz is probably a better option but seems like he's heading to LSU. Not sure who else would be a no-brainer considering the pool of candidates SU would pay for.

 

[Cuseloyal]

One of the podcasters suggested the Stanford coach. Evidently some CNY ties. Anyone have any insights there.

Played at Hamilton but other than that has mostly coached on the West Coast

 

[jr4750]

I would be disappointed if it’s anyone other than one of these guys

I thought we were making a run for Billy D. or Jay W.

 

[MikeSU02]

Pass.

It's funny, outsider commentators make it seem like upstate NY is a wintry version of dante's 9 circles of hell.

But then if there is a coaching candidate that is from upstate, they MUST yearn to get back to the area.

Too funny.

 

[elimunelson]

You and I are often on the same page, but not on this.

Hop is bad -- really bad. And it isn't "hating" to point that out, just because he's an alum.

His maximum level has proven to be assistant coach. He excels in that role. As a head coach, not so much.

Truly, anybody suggesting he would be a solid candidate to be head coach here needs their head examined.

He's not Quinn Snyder, who has had extensive success as a HC at both the college and NBA level. He's not even Dee Snider.

If I had to choose btw Gmac and hop I’d take hop. I’m not saying he’s some great hc but I do think he has some level of competence. Being in the nba proves some level of professional competency.

I think hop isn’t coming back and wouldn’t advocate it but he’d be better than red if he could be thrusted into the job right now as a caretaker

I’m on board w bill Murray’s son or St Louis guy. Hodgson is 3 for me. Hope they all interview. It’s helpful to the program

 

[Cstate]

Just came across this today……
I hope we do a thorough search!

 

[Newhouser]

It's an open secret at this point. Get either of the two and we're back. Make it happen.

Goodman really going out on a limb here.

 

[Cusefan0307]

If I had to choose btw Gmac and hop I’d take hop. I’m not saying he’s some great hc but I do think he has some level of competence. Being in the nba proves some level of professional competency.

I think hop isn’t coming back and wouldn’t advocate it but he’d be better than red if he could be thrusted into the job right now as a caretaker

I’m on board w bill Murray’s son or St Louis guy. Hodgson is 3 for me. Hope they all interview. It’s helpful to the program

Hop would be the worst hire ever. Worse offense than Autry. Went under .500 with multiple 5 stars at Washington. At least Gmac would be coming off success at Siena. And I don't want either.

 

[sufan59]

Purely for the reason SU missed on Nate Oats when he was down the road, they should be terrified that Hodgson is Oats 2.0 and not want to miss again.

Schertz is probably a better option but seems like he's heading to LSU. Not sure who else would be a no-brainer considering the pool of candidates SU would pay for.

Schertz to LSU is an interesting fit... I seem to be the only one that has talked about that Schertz has really only coached at schools where basketball is the main thing on campus (no FBS football). When your navigating the on campus politics, this has got to matter a lot more to coaches than we think. It's an entirely different ballgame now. If you want to talk about best fit for Schertz, it's the Big East conference tbh. St Louis has been outspoken on how they want to get in on that badly. That's probably the biggest obstacle preventing them from retaining Schertz. Look I'm not going to be upset if Syracuse gets Schertz, I'll be happy. Here is maybe an uncomfortable thought to the very pro Schertz and we should've gotten Pitino crowd, but would actually be a very intriguing series of events, if I'm St John's, lets just say I think they instantly become a leader and best fit for Josh Schertz if Rick Pitino retired. If you want to talk about the top purely basketball school in the country now, it's St John's with Mike Repole support. Just an interesting thought at this time. I would not be scared at this outcome because I really think Hodgson is the best fit for Syracuse and a successful Syracuse program under his leadership.

 

[Cuse1055]

Purely for the reason SU missed on Nate Oats when he was down the road, they should be terrified that Hodgson is Oats 2.0 and not want to miss again.

Schertz is probably a better option but seems like he's heading to LSU. Not sure who else would be a no-brainer considering the pool of candidates SU would pay for.

IF Wildhack is still as involved in the decision as he says he is, then I think it will be Hodgson for sure. From what I remember, Wildhack really liked Oates when he was at UB.

 

[Chip]

It's an open secret at this point. Get either of the two and we're back. Make it happen.

"If"

(which is likely)

Just change it to When.

 

[Owens guy]

Can we start another thread where people can debate if they would prefer GMAC or Hop?

That thread can also debate other coaching possibilities like if we should hire Brad Stevens or Jay Wright.

 

[Owens guy]

Purely for the reason SU missed on Nate Oats when he was down the road, they should be terrified that Hodgson is Oats 2.0 and not want to miss again.

Schertz is probably a better option but seems like he's heading to LSU. Not sure who else would be a no-brainer considering the pool of candidates SU would pay for.

The school that worries me is Oregon. That job will very likely be open and if Phil Knight decides to fund Oregon basketball like he does Oregon football, not many basketball programs will have more available money for players.

It could be hard for Syracuse to compete with Oregon if it was promised huge funding.

 

[Sherman20]

Meet the Mid-Major Power Paying Men’s College Basketball’s New Transfer Portal Tax

Belmont built a winner on coaching stability and player development. In the NIL era, that success has made it a prime transfer target every spring.

www.si.com

"Belmont’s offense dating back to the Byrd years is as unstructured as any in college basketball; Alexander calls it “barely more than a pickup game.” What is taught is how to play the game the right way. To play basketball at Belmont is to get a Ph.D. in the game, becoming elite at cutting, screening and moving without the ball. Players are given immense freedom as long as they do those things well, and learning each other’s tendencies can take time."

“We’re so unpatterned,” Alexander says. “You’re not going to watch us play and figure out what we’re doing because we don’t know what we’re doing. We just know that when we screen, here are the things we can do. And we know that you’re a better screener and I’m a better shooter and he’s a better cutter, and I’m good off the dribble but you don’t need to dribble. We just try to play to personal strengths.”

"The result is one of the nation’s sharpest offenses, ranking in the top five nationally in effective field goal percentage and producing quality shot after quality shot."

This sounds very similar to Schertz’s offensive philosophy, which he has described as like playing jazz.

 

[qdawgg]

The school that worries me is Oregon. That job will very likely be open and if Phil Knight decides to fund Oregon basketball like he does Oregon football, not many basketball programs will have more available money for players.

It could be hard for Syracuse to compete with Oregon if it was promised huge funding.

I’d be more worried if it was already happening but it’s not, so whether they would react fast enough to hire him if we try to, who knows. As much hate as SU gets at times I have no doubts they’ve already been doing due diligence for awhile and the coaching search can be wrapped up soon after Autry is officially let go.

 

[MGDCuse]

If I had to choose btw Gmac and hop I’d take hop. I’m not saying he’s some great hc but I do think he has some level of competence. Being in the nba proves some level of professional competency.

I think hop isn’t coming back and wouldn’t advocate it but he’d be better than red if he could be thrusted into the job right now as a caretaker

I’m on board w bill Murray’s son or St Louis guy. Hodgson is 3 for me. Hope they all interview. It’s helpful to the program

You can't just casually use that word on this forum. Now, you have to throw a pinch of salt over each shoulder, spit once on the ground in front of you, spin once to the right, twice to the left, then stand in front of a mirror and yell "No Redrum" 3 times. It knows when you say it's name.

 

[Sherman20]

One of the podcasters suggested the Stanford coach. Evidently some CNY ties. Anyone have any insights there.

Kyle Smith. He’s a very good, proven coach, and used to coach Columbia before moving to San Francisco and then Washington State. I don’t think he’s leaving Stanford, and I worry that his ceiling is limited in terms of player acquisition and offensive innovation.