Actually until I Actually see it as a hire, my feeling is we won't get a highly thought of coach. I just believe that those coaches will look at what has gone on here since 2014 and feel there is a big problem. And I don't feel it's going to go away anytime soon.
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Cusefan0307
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Depends what highly thought of means. No one in their right mind thought Dan Hurley was the second coming of Bobby Knight a decade ago.
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You're on drugs (not Huggs.)
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I’d be happy with either Schertz or Skinns. But I think both will command big $, especially Schertz who’s won over time.
I’m sure we already have a good idea if either are attainable. I doubt Schertz is.
I also think we’ll reach out to Murray and Hodgson, for different reasons.
I would think Gerry is inquiring - I bet we quietly tell him the time isn’t right. Fans and donors are craving new blood. If he continues to succeed….he’d be a top option down the road.
And I’m sure some other up and comers will be in the mix.
I would think it’ll come down to Skinns, Murray or perhaps someone not being talked about prominently at this point (not exactly a bold prediction).
I’d love to see Melo and Bill Murray siting next to each other next year. That’d be a hoot.
I’m sure we already have a good idea if either are attainable. I doubt Schertz is.
I also think we’ll reach out to Murray and Hodgson, for different reasons.
I would think Gerry is inquiring - I bet we quietly tell him the time isn’t right. Fans and donors are craving new blood. If he continues to succeed….he’d be a top option down the road.
And I’m sure some other up and comers will be in the mix.
I would think it’ll come down to Skinns, Murray or perhaps someone not being talked about prominently at this point (not exactly a bold prediction).
I’d love to see Melo and Bill Murray siting next to each other next year. That’d be a hoot.
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Is Hodgson a good recruiter?
Yes it’s a strength of his. He’s extremely outgoing. Did well at that at Alabama, pretty well at the mid major level.
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This is pretty sombering post for once storied program. Its not like we are targeting other P5/6 coaches. Thanks for giving us all perspective
Cuse1055
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His nickname on the recruiting trail is “The Shark”. He was Oates top recruiter. He also has good connections to Canadian prospects.
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Hodsgon and South Florida with an 89-75 victory over Florida Atlantic this afternoon. USF outscored FAU 56-39 in the second half (Someone tell Red that is allowed) to coast to victory. There's a lot to like about Hodgson beyond his coaching ability. WNY background, has connections with prominent SU boosters, and 3 years of head coaching experience in addition to 8 years as an assistant under Nate Oats. He has to get a serious look from SU. Surprised he is not being mentioned on here as much as Schertz and Skinn are.
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Why don’t you think Schertz will be attainable?
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Just a gut feeling with no inside info, but I expect it to be Hodgson.
I'm at the point I want it to be anyone but him
Honestly, this is the most obvious guy to take over. He’s going to be a winner. “Going” is the key word. It might be a few years of some frustrating losses at first as he is still acclimating to being a head coach. The difference is I think it will be in meaningful games. Our floor will be raised.
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Would love to hear why. He took over a 13 win school last year and is one win away from matching that total. It’s an exciting brand of basketball.
You’re proving my point
I’m not opposed to bringing in some dude from Australia that no one has ever heard of just so I don’t have to read the ridiculous comments that are being posted about the other candidates.
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Why?
The hype? Do I see someone that can stabilize the program, get us back to the tournament year after year, and have appearances in the top 25 in conference play, yes. Anything above that is gravy. But a product that can reenergize the fan base and fill the dome consistently should be the goal. Intend to level up, be happy if you go to even higher levels with the guy. We may can with Hodgson eventually because if the fan base is energized and the dome is filled consistently that brings in even more dollars and even more ability to build the program to a perennial championship contender.
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Doesn’t mean that’s what they get. The buyout gets cheaper with time
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Appreciate you bringing a new name to the table!
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I know this is probably reality, but I just have a hard time accepting that, especially on the basketball side of the house.
It’s a fun activity playing I’m an athletic director, who would I hire.
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This is exactly the type of Coach we need to Target. Worried will have lots of other competition for someone like this this off-season.
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Re: Hodgson
Pros:
Faced Pace Free Flowing Exciting Uptempo Offense - Think Alabama, we would be a super high scoring team, play mostly all 5 out offense with a high pick and roll over and over and over again. But with ball movement and shooting is stressed. Three point shooting or dunks not a lot of mid range.
He is an intense coach who shows emotions on the sidelines, not afraid to coach hard during games. Looks like he demands execution and details.
He has a relationship already with a massive donor. In the NIL ERA this can not be understated.
He is a recruiter and has a good reputation on the recruiting trail.
He has connections to the area and the community, which hopefully will help with fundraising
His offense and passion should bring immediate excitement to the campus, fan base, and DOME
Players seem to like to play in this sort of open, free-flowing system
Cons:
Defense, when you play such a fast-paced offense, defense becomes a second thought. We will not be playing grind-it-out games. So some old school fans will be upset. Games will be 100-90 type games instead of 60-50. We will be at the top of most of the offensive leaderboards and at the bottom of all the defensive leaderboards.
His system is very talent-dependent, which is why you see small progressions in records at the lower-level schools. This is the type of system that, if you don't have the right talent or you have an off night, you can look really bad. I have seen that from Alabama, where they just suck certain days.
He doesn't have a long history of success at the lower levels. He hasn't been terrible but he hasnt but super successful either so he is still unknown you are banking on him getting talent for his system.
Won't be the best name on the market and is far from a sure thing.
Overall - I think we can do way worse than Hogdson and I wouldn't be disappointed with him. I like his style of basketball makes the games exciting and fun to watch. His success here would be on how much NIL he could raise.
Pros:
Faced Pace Free Flowing Exciting Uptempo Offense - Think Alabama, we would be a super high scoring team, play mostly all 5 out offense with a high pick and roll over and over and over again. But with ball movement and shooting is stressed. Three point shooting or dunks not a lot of mid range.
He is an intense coach who shows emotions on the sidelines, not afraid to coach hard during games. Looks like he demands execution and details.
He has a relationship already with a massive donor. In the NIL ERA this can not be understated.
He is a recruiter and has a good reputation on the recruiting trail.
He has connections to the area and the community, which hopefully will help with fundraising
His offense and passion should bring immediate excitement to the campus, fan base, and DOME
Players seem to like to play in this sort of open, free-flowing system
Cons:
Defense, when you play such a fast-paced offense, defense becomes a second thought. We will not be playing grind-it-out games. So some old school fans will be upset. Games will be 100-90 type games instead of 60-50. We will be at the top of most of the offensive leaderboards and at the bottom of all the defensive leaderboards.
His system is very talent-dependent, which is why you see small progressions in records at the lower-level schools. This is the type of system that, if you don't have the right talent or you have an off night, you can look really bad. I have seen that from Alabama, where they just suck certain days.
He doesn't have a long history of success at the lower levels. He hasn't been terrible but he hasnt but super successful either so he is still unknown you are banking on him getting talent for his system.
Won't be the best name on the market and is far from a sure thing.
Overall - I think we can do way worse than Hogdson and I wouldn't be disappointed with him. I like his style of basketball makes the games exciting and fun to watch. His success here would be on how much NIL he could raise.
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