Coach Search Options after Autry

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[5OutFred]

Hodsgon making some calls to get his name out there for the job. Here we go.

 

[RedtheGOB]

You want the football coach, who just had the worst 8 game stretch in 100 years of Syracuse football, to have a voice in who the basketball coach is!?

Better than your voice ha. Last I checked they’re splitting the nil and both coaches need to squeeze as much out of the donors as possible. Something Fran has been good at and hoops has been bad at.

 

[orangepassion]

First official coaching rumor

 

[RoysRunts]

Patrick Belein .

 

[orangepassion]

Better than your voice ha. Last I checked they’re splitting the nil and both coaches need to squeeze as much out of the donors as possible. Something Fran has been good at and hoops has been bad at.

I think Fran would be a good resource for the next basketball coach to talk to in regards to NIL. Not sure what that has to do with him having input on who the next coach should be.

 

[orangepassion]

If GMac makes the tourney he might get the BC job and take Fotu with him.

Who's Fotu?

 

[rrlbees]

Better than your voice ha. Last I checked they’re splitting the nil and both coaches need to squeeze as much out of the donors as possible. Something Fran has been good at and hoops has been bad at.

not sure what you mean by "splitting the nil"?

 

[Sherman20]

So the question is if Schertz is a no, Hodgson isn’t experienced enough and we go outside the Boeheim tree, where does that leave us?

I wouldn’t be so quick to give up on getting either of those guys. It’s only Feb. 9.

 

[djorange1989]

not sure what you mean by "splitting the nil"?

Probably means the $20 mil that the university can pay to the players?

 

[rrlbees]

Probably means the $20 mil that the university can pay to the players?

could be

 

[Sherman20]

His name is Jim Crutchfield. He's 69 years old but I can't get over his career record. The guy is 581 and 87. That an 87% career winning %

He's 222–26 (.895) at Nova Southeastern with 2 National Championships.

That’s why I like Schertz. He turned a D2 school into a national power on that level. But then he went and proved himself on the D1 level at a mid major and turned that program around, then moved up to a higher mid major and is winning there. I’ve read only a little bit about Crutchfield and he sounds like nothing but a winner. Bo Ryan had a similar trajectory. Went from building a D3 power with multiple national championships to a mid major and then turning Wisconsin into a consistent winner. The big issue is that Crutchfield is 69. His age makes me very nervous. Some interesting info here.

Beyond wins: How Crutchfield impacts the coaching world

By Bella Giaquinto • NSU’s head men’s basketball coach Jim Crutchfield captivates NBA coaches like Erik Spoelstra and Joe Mazzulla. Between his...

www.makomedia.nova.edu

 

[Jake]

Who's Fotu?

Friend of the University (big donor)

 

[RedtheGOB]

could be

Was in reference to both the 20 mil and the Lally's. The Lally's being Fran's biggest donor but also having ties to potentially giving more NIL to Hodgson for hoops.

Let's say the Lally's give 2 mil a year now for football and they say well we're going to give hoops 2 mil this year too. We're just drawing from the same family.

I'm sure Fran wants a relevant basketball HC and team but also I'm sure he wants as much NIL from the big donors as well.

Not saying Fran should decide and run it by Saban. Just a courtesy keep him looped in. It impacts his program too and there's alot of eggs in the basket to have big year next year for football too.

 

[Blanko97]

Our system = OrangeStandard

Level 5

 

[Cheriehoop]

Alternate perspective: my opinion is that any confident coach is going to think that they are going to turn things around. And given that the program has been on the downturn, it isn't reasonable to think that we're going to be at the top of our game in terms of NIL funding. Any up and coming coach is going to come in here with an insane amount of confidence in their capabilities, believing that they have what it takes to improve performance, drive ticket sales upward, increase fan base engagement and support, which will in turn lead to increased NIL and much higher ticket / gate proceeds to further help feed the beast.

I don't think it is going to be the other way around, where a coach is going to demand the NIL money up front, and decline on that basis alone. I think it is much more likely that someone's going to look at our tradition, see that we have the biggest arena in collegiate basketball, and have an insane amount of confidence in their ability to pack the dome and turn things around. That doesn't mean that our opportunity is for EVERYBODY, or that there might be some coaches who would eschew the northeast out of preference for jobs in other parts of the country.

But I'm guessing that any candidate with the chops might look at the current state, see that we're in the top 5 in NIL within the ACC conference, and think that they can work with that by providing a better on-court product than what we're seeing under Autry. There's more than one way to skin a cat; out-spending everybody in terms of NIL is one strategy, but it is CERTAINLY NOT the only way to be successful.

I think people get locked into these false dichotomies of only being black and white, A versus B, when the answer is probably in the middle:

If a coach can build it, the fans will come. And so will NIL $$$'s.

A coach looking at joining a new program will determine how committed the university and community are to him by the NIL$ the University’s supporters can guarantee him to get those players his first year or two so the “coach can build” a winning program.

 

[RF2044]

A coach looking at joining a new program will determine how committed the university and community are to him by the NIL$ the University’s supporters can guarantee him to get those players his first year or two so the “coach can build” a winning program.

Sure. And I think those resources are available.

But people seem to be mixing "NIL" with financial support to build a support staff. Two different things, and again -- our NIL issues are not incapability to provide support, they are not systemic. The pervasive dissatisfaction from the fanbase is primarily based upon the incredibly poor product on the court, which has gotten steadily worse over a decade of near-irrelevancy, and is bottoming out. That will change when we get someone in charge who is competent. Which in turn will generate enthusiasm to support the program.

 

[rrlbees]

Sure. And I think those resources are available.

But people seem to be mixing "NIL" with financial support to build a support staff. Two different things, and again -- our NIL issues are not incapability to provide support, they are not systemic. The pervasive dissatisfaction from the fanbase is primarily based upon the incredibly poor product on the court, which has gotten steadily worse over a decade of near-irrelevancy, and is bottoming out. That will change when we get someone in charge who is competent. Which in turn will generate enthusiasm to support the program.

I'm sure someone has, but I'm not sure who these people are that mix nil with financial support in building a staff.

 

[Dcuse]

A coach looking at joining a new program will determine how committed the university and community are to him by the NIL$ the University’s supporters can guarantee him to get those players his first year or two so the “coach can build” a winning program.

I don't want to ever hear the word "Build" again. There is no "Build." All players are on a 1 year contract now thanks to whatever idiots decided this. Whoever gets this job DAMN well better win next year.

 

[emjkay]

Could our search for next Coach be considered Gerry-Mandering!

 

[Cheriehoop]

I don't want to ever hear the word "Build" again. There is no "Build." All players are on a 1 year contract now thanks to whatever idiots decided this. Whoever gets this job DAMN well better win next year.

How about “buy” instead?

 

[sufan59]

I just feel like he is so with it. CEO.

 

[23Zone]

I just feel like he is so with it. CEO.

I'd be fine with hodgson

Need someone who actually wants to be here

 

[orange79]

I'd be fine with hodgson

Need someone who actually wants to be here

I don't understand this. Do you think Red doesn't want to be here? Do you think someone who didn't want to be here would take the job?

It makes no sense.

 

[Orangezoo]

I just feel like he is so with it. CEO.

Easy to spot that he spent a while with Oats with how he speaks and a rough edge/swagger of sorts he has.

Some interesting notes here as he talks about the program he is building on and the quality of his staff. Clearly he is positioning things as not about him for when he takes a bigger job.