Coach Search Options after Autry

[OrangeinNH]

Listened to this coaches show with Hodgson. Couple interesting points, they are high up nationally in successful challenges due to their commitment to video production to allow for all of their analytics.
He runs his team similar to a football operation with essentially an offensive coordinator with assistants and the same for defense.
Damion Collins committed to USF after two seasons each at UK and LSU because Hodgson had recruited him each time he was available and has lived up to word in coaching him this season.
These are some of the types of ties that we see with Fran, and the transfer portal makes this sooo valuable. Good recruiters may miss the first time on a target, but with reasonable NIL support, I think he would give us a chance to obtain the level of talent to be relevant again.

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

My vote is bill murrays kid

UConn is the model.

Ironic, since SUBB has been Groundhog’s day for a long time now

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

Im going on record now saying I really only want Kingz back and also Sadiq if he’s willing to work at it and fight for mins again.

Freeman may have the most talent but the inconsistency may make for a brutal start to a new era.

New Coaches call tho

I doubt Donnie’s coming back: he will declare and test the waters. Red’s coaching won’t be held against him. If he doesn’t get good reviews, he’ll go elsewhere.

 

[cliftonparksufan]

Ok yeah sure. Mick Cronin is interested in the Syracuse job. Well sorry Mick, Steve thought you were a stooge because you had an attitude with a reporter asking dumb questions after a complete blowout.
Who cares about your 4x coach of the year awards. Who cares about your 16 tourney wins. Who cares about your 514-240(.682) career record.
You guys kill me with your moral superiority attitudes.

The search committee is doing a poor disservice to the entire Syracuse basketball community if they aren't considering the Mick Cronin's of the world. I've made the comment a few times that most successful coaches have an edge to them. We don't need a nice guy. We need a coach who is a proven winner.

 

[2B20Again]

The search committee is doing a poor disservice to the entire Syracuse basketball community if they aren't considering the Mick Cronin's of the world. I've made the comment a few times that most successful coaches have an edge to them. We don't need a nice guy. We need a coach who is a proven winner.

We don’t know who they are targeting or who they have talked too. What we do know is that DU will never engage in a bidding war or pay the kind of money to get a Cronin, Pitino sr. Jay Wright etc. just not their M/O. Period, so leave the a list names alone. Not gonna happen!!! N

 

[pearl31]

The search committee is doing a poor disservice to the entire Syracuse basketball community if they aren't considering the Mick Cronin's of the world. I've made the comment a few times that most successful coaches have an edge to them. We don't need a nice guy. We need a coach who is a proven winner.

Cronins.

 

[FrancoPizza]

Who is that?

Spiderman's brother. Maybe we can get Zendaya to make a courtside appearance.

 

[M2MPrinciples]

Mick is one of those coaches whose could fly when the players weren’t getting paid but now that they are he’s having a hard time.

 

[Grbac]

The search committee is doing a poor disservice to the entire Syracuse basketball community if they aren't considering the Mick Cronin's of the world. I've made the comment a few times that most successful coaches have an edge to them. We don't need a nice guy. We need a coach who is a proven winner.

Absolutely. I think Cronin is great. I’ve always been a fan of his. His Cincinnati teams were always tough as nails. He filled the paint with these big strong brutes who enforced the middle.
He just signed a big extension last year so unless he gets fired he probably isn’t going anywhere. But he is exactly the type of coach we need.

 

[littlereg]

Interesting….

don’t give this bozo a second of attention that’s all he cares about. Buddy majored in Grifting.

 

[CuseFan]

I doubt Donnie’s coming back: he will declare and test the waters. Red’s coaching won’t be held against him. If he doesn’t get good reviews, he’ll go elsewhere.

Wonder if the Duke game gave Donnie a wake up call as to what talent at the next level looks like. He was outplayed throughout the game, as was our entire team. If I'm an NBA scout and saw that game, his potential dropped sadly. Hopefully, this was a wake up, and we see an aggressive Donnie going forward.

 

[2B20Again]

Wonder if the Duke game gave Donnie a wake up call as to what talent at the next level looks like. He was outplayed throughout the game, as was our entire team. If I'm an NBA scout and saw that game, his potential dropped sadly. Hopefully, this was a wake up, and we see an aggressive Donnie going forward.

Unfortunately for Donnie he is really at about the end of his sophomores year. With this and last years injury he is just about completing his freshman year. That being said both years hampered development physically. No injuries I believe he would be much stronger, better wind etc. in addition skill development is also hampered by lake of time in the heat of battle. I believe he is a very talented play that just needs time with S&C and floor experience as well.

 

[hoopsupstate]

Unfortunately for Donnie he is really at about the end of his sophomores year. With this and last years injury he is just about completing his freshman year. That being said both years hampered development physically. No injuries I believe he would be much stronger, better wind etc. in addition skill development is also hampered by lake of time in the heat of battle. I believe he is a very talented play that just needs time with S&C and floor experience as well.

His effort and total lack of court awareness are huge problems.

 

[Madbiker]

Donnie needs a year playing for Rick Pitino. Then he would develop.

 

[Cheriehoop]

Someone brought up this stooges name. This guy is a weasel. Look how he gas lights this guy with the “raise your voice” comment. Chip is the one that went back at the reporter. Not the other way around. What a coward. Takes real guts to go after a kid reporter. Loser. Never even consider this stooge , please

I used to think he was a very good coach - more on the defensive side than an offensive one though. Then I looked up William Kyle last year when he was mentioned regarding transferring to SU.

I saw that both William Kyle and Aday Mara were transferring out of UCLA. Kyle after one year and Mara after 2 years playing at UCLA. Last year they played only 9.6 minutes (Kyle) vs 13.1 minutes (Aday) with fga of .704(Kyle) and .590(Aday). Aday, a junior, is now the starting center at Michigan and of course Kyle is starting at SU. Cronin couldn’t play them last year? I looked up UCLA last year and they only out rebounded their opponents by 40 rebounds for the entire season. Their 2 best rebounders were a starting 6’9” forward at 4.6 rebounds/ game and a 6’6” guard who averaged 5.9/game despite playing double and triple the minutes Aday and Kyle did. If I was a coach I’d be looking at UCLA’s bench for the transfer portal.

 

[Jasoncuse]

I doubt Donnie’s coming back: he will declare and test the waters. Red’s coaching won’t be held against him. If he doesn’t get good reviews, he’ll go elsewhere.

If we end up hiring Hodgson, you'd have to think Donnie would be a very strong option to stay.
Hodgson was his main recruiter for Alabama and it is probably not a huge coincedence that Donnie chose us soon after Hodgson took the Arkansas St job.

 

[PauliePeppas]

If we end up hiring Hodgson, you'd have to think Donnie would be a very strong option to stay.
Hodgson was his main recruiter for Alabama and it is probably not a huge coincedence that Donnie chose us soon after Hodgson took the Arkansas St job.

Correct, was going to Bama before he left

 

[richmondcuse03]

Listened to this coaches show with Hodgson. Couple interesting points, they are high up nationally in successful challenges due to their commitment to video production to allow for all of their analytics.
He runs his team similar to a football operation with essentially an offensive coordinator with assistants and the same for defense.
Damion Collins committed to USF after two seasons each at UK and LSU because Hodgson had recruited him each time he was available and has lived up to word in coaching him this season.
These are some of the types of ties that we see with Fran, and the transfer portal makes this sooo valuable. Good recruiters may miss the first time on a target, but with reasonable NIL support, I think he would give us a chance to obtain the level of talent to be relevant again.

After seeing him, my only question is if he's a Shifty's guy or a Swallow's man.

 

[M2MPrinciples]

Absolutely. I think Cronin is great. I’ve always been a fan of his. His Cincinnati teams were always tough as nails. He filled the paint with these big strong brutes who enforced the middle.
He just signed a big extension last year so unless he gets fired he probably isn’t going anywhere. But he is exactly the type of coach we need.

Strong brutes who enforce the middle are a thing of the past. Bigs these days need to be able to shoot or be surrounded by at least three players who can shoot. UCLA fans can't wait to be rid of him and whatever conference he's in needs to be severely watered down for him to have the kind of success SU needs to get back to. His style is an antiquated chore to watch and his press conference schtick doesn't work when he's losing (similar to JB's last several years).

 

[BomberOrange]

After seeing him, my only question is if he's a Shifty's guy or a Swallow's man.

He’d be Beginnngs II, no question

 

[tptcuse]

Listened to this coaches show with Hodgson. Couple interesting points, they are high up nationally in successful challenges due to their commitment to video production to allow for all of their analytics.
He runs his team similar to a football operation with essentially an offensive coordinator with assistants and the same for defense.
Damion Collins committed to USF after two seasons each at UK and LSU because Hodgson had recruited him each time he was available and has lived up to word in coaching him this season.
These are some of the types of ties that we see with Fran, and the transfer portal makes this sooo valuable. Good recruiters may miss the first time on a target, but with reasonable NIL support, I think he would give us a chance to obtain the level of talent to be relevant again.

The thumbnail for that clip looks like a bag of frozen peas at a quick glance.

 

[EnviroSciGuy]

Listened to this coaches show with Hodgson. Couple interesting points, they are high up nationally in successful challenges due to their commitment to video production to allow for all of their analytics.
He runs his team similar to a football operation with essentially an offensive coordinator with assistants and the same for defense.
Damion Collins committed to USF after two seasons each at UK and LSU because Hodgson had recruited him each time he was available and has lived up to word in coaching him this season.
These are some of the types of ties that we see with Fran, and the transfer portal makes this sooo valuable. Good recruiters may miss the first time on a target, but with reasonable NIL support, I think he would give us a chance to obtain the level of talent to be relevant again.

I'm starting to really want to see this style at SU. His focus on analytics, system, and identity are a breath of fresh air and the complete opposite of what we have now.

 

[sufan59]

I'm starting to really want to see this style at SU. His focus on analytics, system, and identity are a breath of fresh air and the complete opposite of what we have now.

But he's very competitive and because of that he isn't that nice of a guy. We can't have that at Syracuse. Just some of the online chatter I've seen about the cons with hiring him the last few days. I think he just makes so much damn sense to be the next guy and people are trying to go on record to try and complain they wanted another guy and will be the first people in moments things don't go well, as soon as this season for bad South Florida moments when he isn't even the guy at Syracuse yet to talk down how his overall body of work from a resume standpoint is impressive at such an early stage in his career.

 

[RF2044]

But he's very competitive and because of that he isn't that nice of a guy. We can't have that at Syracuse. Just some of the online chatter I've seen about the cons with hiring him the last few days.

Why is that a "con?"

Great players / coaches across all sports are often driven, competitive, and petty. Some are nice people, others are not. Even our beloved JB was kind of a weirdo in some ways. That's the nature of greatness for many [not all] in sports.

Unless there are bigger personality red flags, I don't think it should matter much. We're hiring a basketball coach, not a philanthropy chair.

 

[sufan59]

Why is that a "con?"

Great players / coaches across all sports are often driven, competitive, and petty. Some are nice people, others are not. Even our beloved JB was kind of a weirdo in some ways. That's the nature of greatness for many [not all] in sports.

Unless there are bigger personality red flags, I don't think it should matter much. We're hiring a basketball coach, not a philanthropy chair.

Sarcasm. I actually love his public demeanor and may be one of his the vocal advocates for him to be the guy on this board, so much to say that I think there is real arguments that he actually may be a better candidate for Syracuse than even Josh Schertz who I also like, but hasn't really worked in anything close to a school like Syracuse in his tenure in regard to FBS football.