Coach Search Options after Autry

[jncuse]

I think it all matters how big our NIL package is for a new coach that is not GMac.

The Big 2 factors to me are Compensation and NIL. And there is still some uncertainty on what we can do with those factors.

People have often pushed "BRAND" as a major factor as well. Unfortunately, from my view
a) "Brand" has been lessened in importance in the NIL era.
b) And even it were important, our "Brand" has taken good sized knocks the past 5 and past 10 years.

I guess we will see, and hope I'm wrong. I've ready maybe 50 pages of this thread over various points, so there is things I miss.

 

[mdf5290]

What gets lost in this talk about how big NIL pursue should be is how well a coach motivates his players...How many McDonald's All Americans were on this team this past year? 4-5? As a fan, I'm at a point where I'd rather have "lesser" talent, but who are absolute dogs, and a coach that can motivate them. From what I've seen from Jerrod Calhoun and the St. Louis coach is that their players would die for them. They put them in a position to win, run tremendous offensive sets & are motivated to make stops...Watch the set Calhoun ran with 90 seconds left to seal the game...His best shooter Falsev breaks from the baseline, gets a pick on a curl and hits a 15 foot jumper to seal the game...

What offensive scheme have we actually run as a team? I'd take players that are motivated & maybe are of "Mtn. West, A-10" 3 stars who play well together, and are united under a great coach/motivator...I have nothing against Gerry, but he's still getting his feet wet...Giving him 15 Million dollars versus a guy like Calhoun or Schretz who are winning a lot of games with less should be the move. Instead, we get a circle-j##k nostalgia, "but he's our guy" thing that sets Gerry up for failure if he goes 22-13 every year.

Money helps, but it doesn't equate to actual effort from the athletes & subsequent performance.

 

[pearl31]

the correct basketball hire

Which could very well be, with all of the facts/information in front of them (not in front of us), GMAC

 

[mdf5290]

Julie thought bitty ball with the Boeheim brothers was SU’s best season ever. Could care less what she thinks about who the next coach should be or maybe Buddy is the mystery man. LOL

Jimmy Jr. would be a better pick than Buddy as a coach...Kids got an Ivy League degree in Finance...I suspect he would better suited to be a coach where I think Buddy would excel as an agent.

 

[phil77]

Which could very well be, with all of the facts/information in front of them (not in front of us), GMAC

Everyone is free to believe what they want. If that is what you believe more power to you.

 

[granthath9]

If Josh Schertz actually is who Dasher was hinting at earlier tonight, you have to do EVERYTHING you can to get him here. It’s a no brainer

 

[pearl31]

Everyone is free to believe what they want. If that is what you believe more power to you.

just saying, facts/info could include: significant specified amount of NIL $ for only GMAC while mystery dream coach requires x amount of NIL $ that is simply not there

for example

 

[pokercuse08]

What gets lost in this talk about how big NIL pursue should be is how well a coach motivates his players...How many McDonald's All Americans were on this team this past year? 4-5? As a fan, I'm at a point where I'd rather have "lesser" talent, but who are absolute dogs, and a coach that can motivate them. From what I've seen from Jerrod Calhoun and the St. Louis coach is that their players would die for them. They put them in a position to win, run tremendous offensive sets & are motivated to make stops...Watch the set Calhoun ran with 90 seconds left to seal the game...His best shooter Falsev breaks from the baseline, gets a pick on a curl and hits a 15 foot jumper to seal the game...

What offensive scheme have we actually run as a team? I'd take players that are motivated & maybe are of "Mtn. West, A-10" 3 stars who play well together, and are united under a great coach/motivator...I have nothing against Gerry, but he's still getting his feet wet...Giving him 15 Million dollars versus a guy like Calhoun or Schretz who are winning a lot of games with less should be the move. Instead, we get a circle-j##k nostalgia, "but he's our guy" thing that sets Gerry up for failure if he goes 22-13 every year.

Money helps, but it doesn't equate to actual effort from the athletes & subsequent performance.

There's a tradeoff, but I don't think we can resort to taking 3 stars of A10 quality and expect to get back to where we want. I didn't look at Saint Louis' whole roster, but Avila and Green were 4 stars out of high school, for example.

On the other hand, I agree that I don't want to just put the most talent we can on the floor and have them unmotivated, not playing cohesively, etc. But we need a mix of both.

 

[2B20Again]

I’d still be concerned if the reason for hiring GMac isn’t that they think he’s the best coach, but that he’d provide the most money. I really don’t like the idea that our coaching position is for sale. And money is likely to be a short term boost. If we don’t win, it will dry up quickly. A winning program would provide a continuing source of nil. And anyway, big bucks alone does not guarantee success. Remember Rutgers a couple years ago had 2 of the top 5 draft picks and went 15-17.

They didn’t have GMAC

 

[kidorange]

OK, so circling back to the Thamel report that multiple P5 coaches have reached out to 'Cuse. That's a lot trickier, because it could include people we wouldn't even entertain as candidates. But at the center of the Venn diagram of people who might feasibly reach out who we might be interested in, these are the names that make sense to me:

T.J. Otzelberger
Buzz Williams
Mick Cronin

There are plenty we'd be interested in who I don't think would reach out, and plenty who would reach out who I don't think we'd be interested in.

I'd be thrilled with either Otz or Schertz, and would take both over Gerry. I'd gamble on Gerry over Buzz or Mick.

First and last time I'll ever say this: I absolutely do not want a Buzz

 

[2B20Again]

People disrespect Gerry. They talk about him like he's a kid. He played and coached at the highest level of college basketball for 20 years, won a national championship as a player, went to two Final Fours as an assistant and now as a head coach, with a totally overmatched team, took the #1 team in the country down to the wire. Somehow Schertz and Hodgson are vastly superior. Good coaches, but vastly superior and would coach circles around Gerry? Just like Scheyer did yesterday, right? I'd be perfectly happy with Gerry or Schertz, but Gerry doesn't take a backseat to him.