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[Widget24]

That means the next SU coach will have failed at some point, and it may be unlikely thaf GMac wants to return. Suspect he’ll find success at another P4 school.

Or he retired.

 

[TacoTime75]

my concern is the about face that will take place if Schertz put out that he wasn’t interested in SU, agreeed to an extension, then says nvm I actually like Cuse. Doesn’t make sense

 

[Toga]

Any chance Carolina might go after Schertz?

 

[Dmcnabbrules]

I think Schertz could also completely change the culture at SU. He is not indebted to ANYONE.

 

[Chip]

Maybe, but I’d almost rather announce it this morning and get it all over the pregame shows with a ton of eyes on it.

Has to be because they’re just working the Gerry donors to convince them to still give it for Schertz, right?

What else is there to negotiate?

 

[Irishsecra1]

That means the next SU coach will have failed at some point, and it may be unlikely thaf GMac wants to return. Suspect he’ll find success at another P4 school.

It depends on how serious it has gotten this time with Gerry.
Lets say we were 90% sure we wanted Gerry and Gerry knew it.
Then suddenly Shertz or another coach shows interest, and we tell him no we dont want you after all. For a second time. LIterally gut him a second time - Lucy and the old football.

Gerry will move on and be a star coach elsewhere. Maybe he goes to BC and kicks our collective asses for years?
I would say the chances of Gerry returning within a 10 year window are pretty much slim to none. Maybe never.

Basketball is a business to be sure, but you cant mind **** with someone twice in 4 years.

And the casual fanbase will be pissed initially, no big influx of season ticket holders.
No really big NIL out of the gate.
Yes, if new coach starts winning and we make the NCAAT, then the fanbase will buy in by year end.
But short term it is a gamble, less NIL, less season ticket holders.
Shertz or whoever will be on a scorching hot seat to succeed, even worse than GMAC would have faced.

 

[richmondcuse03]

Schertz might be the best offensive mind in college basketball. I love GMac but you must do you due diligence and try to get Shertz if possible. Fans would love Josh when the scoreboard hits triple digits multiple times a year.

The offensive stats for schertz teams are…phenomenal.

 

[dasher]

I don’t believe anyone except Dasher.

I don't believe that guy.

 

[OburgOrange]

he's up and about. but he had some things to do.

He’s at your place?

 

[chadvader]

I think Schertz could also completely change the culture at SU. He is not indebted to ANYONE.

Plus can sell Sharts for Schertz tshirts. Its a win win.

 

[Widget24]

It depends on how serious it has gotten this time with Gerry.
Lets say we were 90% sure we wanted Gerry and Gerry knew it.
Then suddenly Shertz or another coach shows interest, and we tell him no we dont want you after all. For a second time. LIterally gut him a second time - Lucy and the old football.

Gerry will move on and be a star coach elsewhere. Maybe he goes to BC and kicks our collective asses for years?
I would say the chances of Gerry returning within a 10 year window are pretty much slim to none. Maybe never.

Basketball is a business to be sure, but you cant mind **** with someone twice in 4 years.

And the casual fanbase will be pissed initially, no big influx of season ticket holders.
No really big NIL out of the gate.
Yes, if new coach starts winning and we make the NCAAT, then the fanbase will buy in by year end.
But short term it is a gamble, less NIL, less season ticket holders.
Shertz or whoever will be on a scorching hot seat to succeed, even worse than GMAC would have faced.

What, like a fish?

 

[cuseguy]

Or he retired.

Schertz is 50. Imagine he’ll be around at least another 15 years. Gerry will be a distant memory by then.

 

[JOC44]

Arteta was a Pep protege and Pep has nothing to do with Arsenal. However, If we had Arsenal money in NIL terms than we are set. I also think of him more at Everton.

Bring in Arteta. We can play haramball. I'm in.

 

[Irishsecra1]

Take this for what it’s worth from Siena side of things and some pieces I have kind of put together.

1- Siena is doing a lot behind the scenes to keep Gerry. That doesn’t mean they would be able to keep him from Syracuse obviously. But they are trying to put a package together to make him happy and content. May make it more expensive and/or more of a roadblock for Syracuse to get it done. Gerry is seen as being a cheaper option for Syracuse, so now if they have to up their bid, does he look like as good of an option?

2- Yes they will probably lose Doty, but if they can hold onto everyone else from this years roster, they are anticipating a special year next year. Could be a fantastic year to ‘Cash in’, with the anticipated openings.

3- he turned down BC and GT last week.

4- he has ankle replacement surgery scheduled very soon. Has been in a lot of pain the last couple weeks. This is a big time recovery and would deffinetly hurt his ability to hit the ground running at a new job. Would deffinetly hurt his ability to do what needs to be done in year 1 form any program.

5- he is a prideful guy, and as many have mentioned on here before, he was hurt that he was passed over the first time for Red. In addition, Siena is bending over backwards to keep him and make him happy. Meanwhile, he looks like Syracuse’s 3,4,5th option. That in a way kind of hurts too, do I want to go back to a place that turned me down already and then I’m a backup plan? Ultimately it’s easier to say no when the offer isn’t actually in front of you. But it can be a thought, kind of a slap in the face while your current school be-loves you.

6- Jim talking in the media and spewing his name for Syracuse isn’t really appreciated by Gerry. It’s more of a distraction and a nuisance. Albany is 2 hours away and Jim has not been to one Siena game to support Gerry.

7- Jim hates Nate Oats and it’s no secret apparently. Part of the reason that Hodgson was blackballed by Jim.

Unless AW decides to no longer pay Dotys NIL, no way Doty leave GMAC. He has stated multiple times he wants to play his whole college career with GMAC. They are incredibly close off the court unless Gerry tells him to leave for a better program.

 

[cliftonparksufan]

Dasher doesn’t go to sleep. Sleep goes to Dasher.

Dasher's real name is Chuck Norris. And it was reported that Chuck Norris died. But the truth is Chuck Norris is alive and will be the next Syracuse basketball coach.

 

[tptcuse]

Take this for what it’s worth from Siena side of things and some pieces I have kind of put together.

1- Siena is doing a lot behind the scenes to keep Gerry. That doesn’t mean they would be able to keep him from Syracuse obviously. But they are trying to put a package together to make him happy and content. May make it more expensive and/or more of a roadblock for Syracuse to get it done. Gerry is seen as being a cheaper option for Syracuse, so now if they have to up their bid, does he look like as good of an option?

2- Yes they will probably lose Doty, but if they can hold onto everyone else from this years roster, they are anticipating a special year next year. Could be a fantastic year to ‘Cash in’, with the anticipated openings.

3- he turned down BC and GT last week.

4- he has ankle replacement surgery scheduled very soon. Has been in a lot of pain the last couple weeks. This is a big time recovery and would deffinetly hurt his ability to hit the ground running at a new job. Would deffinetly hurt his ability to do what needs to be done in year 1 form any program.

5- he is a prideful guy, and as many have mentioned on here before, he was hurt that he was passed over the first time for Red. In addition, Siena is bending over backwards to keep him and make him happy. Meanwhile, he looks like Syracuse’s 3,4,5th option. That in a way kind of hurts too, do I want to go back to a place that turned me down already and then I’m a backup plan? Ultimately it’s easier to say no when the offer isn’t actually in front of you. But it can be a thought, kind of a slap in the face while your current school be-loves you.

6- Jim talking in the media and spewing his name for Syracuse isn’t really appreciated by Gerry. It’s more of a distraction and a nuisance. Albany is 2 hours away and Jim has not been to one Siena game to support Gerry.

7- Jim hates Nate Oats and it’s no secret apparently. Part of the reason that Hodgson was blackballed by Jim.

Good lord, #6 is something.

 

[JOC44]

Plus can sell Sharts for Schertz tshirts. Its a win win.

New shop on Marshall Street. Shertz World.

 

[cuseguy]

The offensive stats for schertz teams are…phenomenal.

Clearly an offensive mind. We’ll be fine as long as we avoid Dayton, George Mason and Rhode Island. All St. Louis losses down the stretch.

 

[Orangefan1]

I don’t see why after he signed a huge extension peole are in dreamworld

 

[Irishsecra1]

It is truly sad that Dion Waiters has watched more Siena games in person than JB.

 

[JarHeadJim]

I don't believe that guy.

Good Morning sunshine!

 

[Trueblue25]

Welcome Home G Mac tatoos finally healing



Schertz is back on the menu?!

 

[tptcuse]

Someone else pointed out earlier that 90% of the fanbase wants GMac and has no idea who Schertz is. I check this board several hours each day and had to Google to make sure I was spelling his name correctly. St. Louis is not a known commodity in college basketball. That shouldn't stop a potential hire, but there will need to be a good media plan in place if we can somehow get him here.

 

[dasher]

I am up. I don't expect I will hear any more than what I already did which wasn't all that much. As I said, I was told it was down to 2 coaches. One was Gerry. The other is the mystery man (isn't all that much mystery since his name has been out in this thread a whole bunch of times). Last night, a poster in this thread said he knew for a fact that the mystery man had already been interviewed last Weds. I had zero knowledge of that. That of course was before the Siena Duke game. And we also got Pete T's comments that back up that there are other discussions going on. That is all I know. And it was sort of fluky that I knew that because the info on the mystery man came from the other side. Not Syracuse. Hopefully we know more soon no matter who it turns out to be.

 

[tptcuse]

I don’t see why after he signed a huge extension peole are in dreamworld

It is stated on this board he didn't sign a plan. Verbal agreement.