Coaching Candidates (My List)

[jncuse]

If Smart was looking to leave, there would be other programs that outbid us.

Marquette was able to get him at a reasonable price when he was "cold" after Texas.
Now with Marquette being a top 2/3 seed team for consecutive years, he is a hot commodity again (if he ever wants to leave his home state)

 

[OrlandoCuse]

I am not knowledgeable on the subject, but Hodgson seems a bit weak to me. 1 year of D1 HC experience? What am I missing?

A few years ago, Oats at least had a decent about of D1 coaching experience.

He’s an interesting one to keep on eye on. Ties to the area. Won 20 games in his first season as HC and has won 10 so far this year including an upset over Memphis. Was Nate Oates lead recruiter. Seems to check a lot of boxes as an up and coming HC that could potentially be a good fit for SU.

I can’t see him staying at Arkansas State for long.

 

[BillSU]

Jason hart, bob richey from Furman, Drew Valentine from Loyola Chicago, Chris Jans from Miss st, Richard Pitino, Chris Collins, Sean Miller, Mike Rhodes, Mitch Henderson, Archie Miller, Shaheen Holloway, Hodgson, Ryan Odom is a pretty good list to look at. Some are young up and comers and some are retreads that have turned their careers around and won at harder jobs than Syracuse. My favorite candidate would be Chris Jans or Mitch Henderson personally.

I just lookked upp Chris Jans Mis St salary and he's pulling in 4M now I don't think that would work

 

[jncuse]

Lots of interesting and realistic names here. They are also all names that would have bee laughed at by this board 4 years ago. My have times changed.

If Wildhack really does some research I hope he could find an established coach that you wouldn't think would change schools but might just need a change of scenery. A coach like a Mark Few, McDermott from Creighton, etc.

I don't think coaches (like Few and McDermott) who have had much more success at their schools than Syracuse the last 10 years, leaving for a chance of scenery. They were part of elevating their modern day brands beyond that of what Syracuse is now.

 

[jncuse]

I think the mid-major route is where will we have to go, and in the end if we get the right guy its probably a better alternative than a retread from a major program looking to get back in.

The right mid-major coach probably is more effective in terms of getting the most out of their resources, and to create an identity for the team -- which will still be important here as we are a mid-tier spender in terms of major conference schools. Rather than just acquiring talent with no fit or identity in mind, like we did this year. To get value from our $ spend we will need to have that mindset to create an identity rather than just getting the best player and trying to make it fit.

That being said, I would be concerned how that would play with the donor base. They may be more energized initially by an experienced major hire.

 

[Cappy3]

He’s an interesting one to keep on eye on. Ties to the area. Won 20 games in his first season as HC and has won 10 so far this year including an upset over Memphis. Was Nate Oates lead recruiter. Seems to check a lot of boxes as an up and coming HC that could potentially be a good fit for SU.

I can’t see him staying at Arkansas State for long.

The question is do we want to go with an”up and comer” or do we want someone who’s an established P5 coach. It’s fair to ask if someone like that could legitimately recruit ACC level talent. Yeah, he was Oats lead recruiter, but he was recruiting for Oates, not himself. His recruiting at Arkansas St has been decidedly below what we’re expecting here.

 

[Cuse1055]

The question is do we want to go with an”up and comer” or do we want someone who’s an established P5 coach. It’s fair to ask if someone like that could legitimately recruit ACC level talent. Yeah, he was Oats lead recruiter, but he was recruiting for Oates, not himself. His recruiting at Arkansas St has been decidedly below what we’re expecting here.

He is recruiting 4 stars to ARKANSAS STATE lol. I think recruiting here would be the least of worries.

 

[Cheriehoop]

No love for Matt Langel? I remember when Notre Dame hired Ara Parseghian because he kept beating them at Northwestern.

Colgate is 3-9 this season and we beat them this year. No offense to their coach.

 

[SWC75]

Colgate is 3-9 this season and we beat them this year. No offense to their coach.

They've dominated their league for years and gave #5 Kentucky a good tussle. They've surely given us fits. Once they get into their league they'll reverse that record.

 

[Scooch]

That being said, I would be concerned how that would play with the donor base. They may be more energized initially by an experienced major hire.

Maybe. But the donor base is why Autry is the coach now. They had to be appeased with JB’s guy since so many of them were pissed that JB was run out.

They got their guy. If he doesn’t work out then I’d hope they’d be humbled and support who’s next.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

This might not be popular, and I would only do this for the only player to ever deliver a championship for us that has a kid joining the program but... Melo needs to have some say in this.

 

[BomberOrange]

Ok, I am all in on Hodgson. Not only do I think he is one of those young coaches on the rise who can recruit, he can freaking fix a bus. We travel on buses!! We need this guy. Now.

Arkansas State head coach Bryan Hodgson fixed broken down team bus himself

There are players’ coaches and there are buses’ coaches.

nypost.com

 

[im4cuse]

He is recruiting 4 stars to ARKANSAS STATE lol. I think recruiting here would be the least of worries.

Arkansas St would boat race us by 35.

 

[OrlandoCuse]

Ok, I am all in on Hodgson. Not only do I think he is one of those young coaches on the rise who can recruit, he can freaking fix a bus. We travel on buses!! We need this guy. Now.

Arkansas State head coach Bryan Hodgson fixed broken down team bus himself

There are players’ coaches and there are buses’ coaches.

nypost.com

I originally thought your comment was a metaphor because we desperately need someone capable of fixing our bus

 

[Dinkyspond]

They've dominated their league for years and gave #5 Kentucky a good tussle. They've surely given us fits. Once they get into their league they'll reverse that record.

They play a tough schedule sprinkled with P5s and tough mid-majors above the Patriot League. They gear up everything for the Patriot League. They'll be in the hunt for the Patriot auto bid this year as they always are.

 

[jdubs30]

I want Hodgson but Langel is 100x the coach Red is and as long as he can get some recruiters on staff …..

 

[Sbucketball]

This might not be popular, and I would only do this for the only player to ever deliver a championship for us that has a kid joining the program but... Melo needs to have some say in this.

Im fine with Melo having a say.

Not fine with blindly saying Red gets year 3 no matter what just because Kiyan committed, who has wanted to play for Cuse before he knew Red would coach.

 

[Irt4su]

would this team be better with a better in coach assistant? The new Dakota whiff coach hasn’t added much that I can see and the other guys all learned pretty much under JB. Why not bring in a marteli or Greenberg next year instead of firing red? I am asking this not suggesting this

 

[Jack_Ball]

would this team be better with a better in coach assistant? The new Dakota whiff coach hasn’t added much that I can see and the other guys all learned pretty much under JB. Why not bring in a marteli or Greenberg next year instead of firing red?

Thats the same thing we did for football and what ultimately happened there? Its delaying the inevitable.

 

[jdubs30]

would this team be better with a better in coach assistant? The new Dakota whiff coach hasn’t added much that I can see and the other guys all learned pretty much under JB. Why not bring in a marteli or Greenberg next year instead of firing red? I am asking this not suggesting this

Keeping the staff in tact and adding Phil Martelli for a year or 2 would not change the trajectory of the program. Red is clearly so far above his head that it’s a lost cause at this point

 

[HRE Otto IV]

I would consider Luke Murray who has been a stud recruiter for years and can bring his own NIL funds.

 

[Owens guy]

Eric Musselman but unfortunately maybe hard to get him to move again so soon & can’t afford to pay a buyout.

 

[Sbucketball]

I would consider Luke Murray who has been a stud recruiter for years and can bring his own NIL funds.

He's more than a recruiter. He designed their offense.

 

[Sbucketball]

Unfortunately this job isn't what we think it is. It's a mid coaching job given what SU's willing to pay and given our NIL situation. I don't expect a splashy hire. More likely something like Fran and hope it works.

 

[Cusefan0307]

Unfortunately this job isn't what we think it is. It's a mid coaching job given what SU's willing to pay and given our NIL situation. I don't expect a splashy hire. More likely something like Fran and hope it works.

I said this before, but no school is making splashy hires these days outside of the SEC.