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Cole Swider: Pistons

OttoinGrotto said:
That's crappy. Not what you want at the start of an NBA career.
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Seems to be a trend with our guys when they get to the league. Outside Melo and Wes it seems everybody is battling injuries early on in their career the last 20 yrs.
 
Orangezoo said:
Seems to be a trend with our guys when they get to the league. Outside Melo and Wes it seems everybody is battling injuries early on in their career the last 20 yrs.
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Overuse?
 
sufandu said:
That certainly seems to be more of an issue across the board in basketball now. These guys start playing year round ball at 8 years old and their bodies don't get a break.
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Agreed. The number of meaningless AAU games is absurd. You don’t need to be traveling around, playing multiple games in a day…basically just running up and down the court.
 
OrangeDW said:
Agreed. The number of meaningless AAU games is absurd. You don’t need to be traveling around, playing multiple games in a day…basically just running up and down the court.
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And as a kid, you should have a few months where you just don't play an organized sport. Ride a bike. Throw a frisbee. Play some tag or hide-n-seek. Be a kid, not a mini-pro.
 
sufandu said:
And as a kid, you should have a few months where you just don't play an organized sport. Ride a bike. Throw a frisbee. Play some tag or hide-n-seek. Be a kid, not a mini-pro.
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Agreed. And play more 3 on 3, 1 basket, where you get the ball and develop offensive moves rather than just run up and down pressing and everybody taking turns barreling to the basket in the open court.
 
sufandu said:
And as a kid, you should have a few months where you just don't play an organized sport. Ride a bike. Throw a frisbee. Play some tag or hide-n-seek. Be a kid, not a mini-pro.
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Couldn't agree more. I have a couple friends who are great people, but they have an approach I'm just not sure about. They have a 4th grader daughter and 6th grade son. Both kids made it to the Junior Olympics finals in various track and field events this summer, so they are quite talented athletic kids. After the Olympics and all the trial events leading up to it which was every weekend for awhile, then it was onto softball for the daughter and then ANOTHER softball league. Mom posted on FB a couple weeks ago that it was their first weekend off without a game since they can't even remember. Even when they aren't playing games, Dad has a pretty structured practice routine for them.

Dad posted something on FB about Lavar Ball not that long ago saying "Lavar Ball's 3 sons are now in the NBA 2 years after being criticized for being too involved in his kids careers."

To his credit, the Balls did make it. But that seems like a very fine line to follow that could go either way down the line - imho.

But I digress, back to Cole.
 
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Immanuel Quickley was sitting on the Knicks bench last night with ice wrapped around both of his knees like he was 38 year old Patrick Ewing. He's 23!
 
shandeezy7 said:
Immanuel Quickley was sitting on the Knicks bench last night with ice wrapped around both of his knees like he was 38 year old Patrick Ewing. He's 23!
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Yeah and it's not just basketball. The productivity timeline for NFL Rbs seems to shrink every year outside very few exceptions. At 24 and 25 these guys remind me of me, raised farming it for many years with so much more wear and tear than most.

The pct risk of injury is just so much higher these days when you add on high usage in college too.
 
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CuseFaninVT said:
Nope
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Ok - when you asked the orange zoo if it was "overuse" in reference to Syracuse players being hurt "early in their careers in the last 20 years" - what exactly were you referring to?
The obvious conclusion, overlaid with your constant stream of posts that suggest Syracuse players receive too many minutes, can only lead one to believe that the players are getting hurt because Boeheim is "overusing" them. How else should we interpret that?
 
althea said:
Ok - when you asked the orange zoo
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If you are going to start an accusatory post I suggest a bit of accuracy at the beginning. Unless it was a jab to which it was a weird one..

It smells that way at least.
 
althea said:
Ok - when you asked the orange zoo if it was "overuse" in reference to Syracuse players being hurt "early in their careers in the last 20 years" - what exactly were you referring to?
The obvious conclusion, overlaid with your constant stream of posts that suggest Syracuse players receive too many minutes, can only lead one to believe that the players are getting hurt because Boeheim is "overusing" them. How else should we interpret that?
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Which posts exactly are you referring to? Constant stream?
 
Back to Cole - hey he played a game. And he has an assist/TO ratio of infinity, pretty awesome!

Between Cole and Buddy, two new guys playing in the NBA. Was a disappointing Cuse season, but you have to be happy for them as people. Both hard workers who deserve any NBA success...
 
It's really too bad Cole is hurt right now. The Lakers desperately need outside shooters and Cole obviously is a shooter. He may have been given a legitimate chance to play if he wasn't out.
 
MSOrange said:
Couldn't agree more. I have a couple friends who are great people, but they have an approach I'm just not sure about. They have a 4th grader daughter and 6th grade son. Both kids made it to the Junior Olympics finals in various track and field events this summer, so they are quite talented athletic kids. After the Olympics and all the trial events leading up to it which was every weekend for awhile, then it was onto softball for the daughter and then ANOTHER softball league. Mom posted on FB a couple weeks ago that it was their first weekend off without a game since they can't even remember. Even when they aren't playing games, Dad has a pretty structured practice routine for them.

Dad posted something on FB about Lavar Ball not that long ago saying "Lavar Ball's 3 sons are now in the NBA 2 years after being criticized for being too involved in his kids careers."

To his credit, the Balls did make it. But that seems like a very fine line to follow that could go either way down the line - imho.

But I digress, back to Cole.
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one quick correction, LaGelo was never in nba as a full timer. He’s is basically out of the nba unless he gets better quick. He’s low end g leaguer at this point
 
sufandu said:
And as a kid, you should have a few months where you just don't play an organized sport. Ride a bike. Throw a frisbee. Play some tag or hide-n-seek. Be a kid, not a mini-pro.
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And then kids that eat, sleep and breathe the game will always be ahead of you.
 
two3zone said:
And then kids that eat, sleep and breathe the game will always be ahead of you.
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Nah. Eating, sleeping, and breathing the game at 8 doesn't equal success. It equals burnout and increased injury. Kids can wait until high school age before specializing. There are all kinds of kids that looked like phenoms when they were young that get surpassed as they get older because kids develop at different rates. Ulitimately talent shines through.

Even if you were right, is it worth the trade off? The increased rates of child athlete injuries and burnout for that 1% chance of getting a scholarship or that .00075% chance of being a pro. It makes more sense that kids use sports to have fun and be healthy, what they were originally intended for.
 
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