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Cole Swider returning ???

Capt. Tuttle said:
No 1st round picks have to take that many years to prove it. He’s rounding into a nice college player. Might be an end of the bench NBA guy, maybe.
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Pretty sure that 90+% of this board has no clue at all about the NBA draft. Cole turning himself into a 1st rounder after a 5th year is so absurd its hard to believe it's a thought that could enter someone's brain.
 
Dinkyspond said:
There are guys playing college hockey at 25 if they played juniors before going to college. Some Mormons are 24 or 25 in college after completing their post-high school missions. Rhino on our football team will be 30 this year and I love it!
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kirbivore said:
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That’s very true. When in college, I had a couple of roommates from Canada (eh) who played hockey and were 24-25.
 
chugg21 said:
Pretty sure that 90+% of this board has no clue at all about the NBA draft. Cole turning himself into a 1st rounder after a 5th year is so absurd its hard to believe it's a thought that could enter someone's brain.
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College Seniors need to be like Chris Duarte or Corey Kispert to get drafted in the first round and those are outliers.

Swider has zero percentage chance at getting drafted. That doesn’t mean he couldn’t MAYBE get a 2
Way contract but even that would be hard.

Oshae had to work his butt off to last.
If Cole wants to stop taking classes and enter the real world or try the G league or Europe then he doesn’t come back.
Cole can basically do whatever he wants as the NBA is a longshot.
 
Alsacs said:
College Seniors need to be like Chris Duarte or Corey Kispert to get drafted in the first round and those are outliers.

Swider has zero percentage chance at getting drafted. That doesn’t mean he couldn’t MAYBE get a 2
Way contract but even that would be hard.

Oshae had to work his butt off to last.
If Cole wants to stop taking classes and enter the real world or try the G league or Europe then he doesn’t come back.
Cole can basically do whatever he wants as the NBA is a longshot.
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I suspect Cole will be back for another year.
 
Alsacs said:
College Seniors need to be like Chris Duarte or Corey Kispert to get drafted in the first round and those are outliers.

Swider has zero percentage chance at getting drafted. That doesn’t mean he couldn’t MAYBE get a 2
Way contract but even that would be hard.

Oshae had to work his butt off to last.
If Cole wants to stop taking classes and enter the real world or try the G league or Europe then he doesn’t come back.
Cole can basically do whatever he wants as the NBA is a longshot.
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Exactly. Kispert shot 44% from deep on big volume his last 2 years. A 4/5 year guy has to have an elite trait to get into the 1st rd. It was fun watching Cole hunt for shots and be en fuego but he's a good to very good shooter and unfortunately there's plenty of guys at that level.
 
cole finally figured it out towards the end of the season. but he still has a lot of room to grow, especially mentally. being "the man" is something he could use more practice with and he wont get that role elsewhere. to me thats the reason he should come back.

that cole for a whole season could be a key piece on a ranked team, no doubt.
 
CardiacCuse said:
cole finally figured it out towards the end of the season. but he still has a lot of room to grow, especially mentally. being "the man" is something he could use more practice with and he wont get that role elsewhere. to me thats the reason he should come back.

that cole for a whole season could be a key piece on a ranked team, no doubt.
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Ranked team ?
 
Alsacs said:
It’s much more likely what Jake said than the JB knows Jimmy’s not getting another year.
Juli can see the temperature of the situation more objectively than JB can.

Honestly if Jimmy doesn’t want to enter the real world yet JB should offer him a grad assistant job. Jimmy and JB watch tape together.
If Jimmy wants to be around college hoops and potentially become a coach then he could consider it.
Nobody in their right mind is upset at this and JB gets another year with his boy. Jimmy could get that year from the NCAA and as i said in another thread if we have a rash of injuries play games.

That said him being a grad assistant could get JB to engage with his assistants in game more. Jimmy clearly is a smart kid.

Who knows if he wants it though.
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I think Buddy is more likely to become a coach. But he has to try the play-for-pay first.
 
Jake said:
Here’s my 2 cents. This is my conjecture piecing together tidbits I’ve heard and knowing human nature.

I think JB actually wanted Jimmy and Buddy to return and that was known internally. He simply didn’t want his sons legacy to be tarnished by a sub par season and wanted to give them a chance at redemption.

I don’t think Cole saw a benefit of returning in this circumstance and indicated he was leaving…and I that was fine with JB.

This was probably where we were up until JB leaked the idea of Jimmy applying for a waiver - which was about the time things really looked a losing season was possible, if not likely…and the natives were really getting restless.

Then, I honestly think Juli stepped in. Juli puts up a brave face, but I don’t think this season has been fun for her at all. Fans can be unbelievably mean and insensitive. I saw her plenty at road games…not so much at the dome. I don’t think she wanted any part of this happening again next year in what might have been growing public discontent. It’s not how any of them wanted this season to go, but I think she made the call. Remember, you always recruit mom….she’s the decision maker!

So now that it appears JB3 and Buddy are indeed gone, there is a mutual interest from Coach and Cole for him to return.

Cole can be more of a focus of the offense. And JB gets a piece of a puzzle so he can have a successful season next year that he desperately wants.

So that’s my take on how this has shifted.

Edit: just saw Mike Waters clarification….but I think what I said above holds true and that Swider is seriously considering a return.
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Swider played every minute with the two Boeheims here, why would their return chase him away?
 
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Cole is an important piece for many reasons.
He can score the ball and is an elite shooter. As good as Joe , 8 or 9 inches taller
He rebounds and his D improved as the season went on.
Mostly he is a leader. His interviews, in game demeanor, and the way he encourages his teammates ( watch him with Benny) is going to be needed with a young team.
If he develops a better handle he has a chance at making the league. Minimally he will make a nice living in Europe. We really need him next year.
 
kcsu said:
Cole is an important piece for many reasons.
He can score the ball and is an elite shooter. As good as Joe , 8 or 9 inches taller
He rebounds and his D improved as the season went on.
Mostly he is a leader. His interviews, in game demeanor, and the way he encourages his teammates ( watch him with Benny) is going to be needed with a young team.
If he develops a better handle he has a chance at making the league. Minimally he will make a nice living in Europe. We really need him next year.
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Agreed. Not to mention that this year, it's hard for a coaches son to be a "leader" on the team for obvious reasons.

Cole returning is more like a Marek returning for a 5th year. We have lacked the connector guys in the current poor stretch of seasons. Maybe, just maybe having Cole return and not losing much to the portal if at all, we can have an actual shot at a good year. No promises but at least a better shot. If he doesn't return we are back to desperation in the portal and likely a rerun or worse.
 
PhatOrange said:
Swider played every minute with the two Boeheims here, why would there return chase him away?
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they lost 17 times with that roster in which the two sons were the focal point of the offense.
 
Orangezoo said:
Agreed. Not to mention that this year, it's hard for a coaches son to be a "leader" on the team for :) reasons.

Cole returning is more like a Marek returning for a 5th year. We have lacked the connector guys in the current poor stretch of seasons. Maybe, just maybe having Cole return and not losing much to the portal if at all, we can have an actual shot at a good year. No promises but at least a better shot. If he doesn't return we are back to desperation in the portal and likely a rerun or worse.
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If Cole returns and Benny makes the jump which i believe he will we have a tourney team.
Sy
Joe
Cole
Benny
Jesse
Solid, If Mintz comes and Frank returns we have a great 7 man roster. I really like the kid from Philly and i think that Brown will provide solid minutes. This team can send JB off on a positive note or maybe energize him for another 10 years
 
kcsu said:
If Cole returns and Benny makes the jump which i believe he will we have a tourney team.
Sy
Joe
Cole
Benny
Jesse
Solid, If Mintz comes and Frank returns we have a great 7 man roster. I really like the kid from Philly and i think that Brown will provide solid minutes. This team can send JB off on a positive note or maybe energize him for another 10 years
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Not sure thats a tourney team
 
chugg21 said:
Pretty sure that 90+% of this board has no clue at all about the NBA draft. Cole turning himself into a 1st rounder after a 5th year is so absurd its hard to believe it's a thought that could enter someone's brain.
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A bit hyperbolic on my part, yes. But one should never underestimate the power of a few Gin margaritas! They’ve been known to cause all kinds of delusions. :p;):cool:
 
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