College Gameday Feature on Cuse

[PhatOrange]

I'll never understand people that schedule weddings on Saturdays in September and October.

I gave my wife a list of about 7 Saturdays that were available.

I knew i a guy in Michigan that forbid his daughter from having her wedding in the fall on a Saturday. Said he would not pay for it nor attend - lol

 

[Townie72]

Four games into the season with wins against OK competition and the nervous Nancies are worrying about he coach leaving.

Relax. Even if he is successful here, I don't think he's moving up. Not because he wouldn't do it, but because there won't be a lot of demand at "higher levels" of CFB for what Babers brings to the party.

He's a very clever guy and an inspirational leader. And that seems exactly right for bringing SU out of it's long sleep. We need strategies and tactics that work against teams with better athletes than ours until we can get better athletes. We need to coax super effort out of our players.

Schools at the top of the college heap don't need that. They play pretty much straight up and depend on superior athletes. They don't need to wring extraordinary effort out of the 5 Stars they have. These guys are good enough with just regular effort. They need precision using a standard approach to football. You won't see Alabama "playing fast" anytime soon.

A school that would be interested in a "turn-around" specialist like Babers is sitting at the bottom of their conference and wants to move up. He has shown he can do that. But why would Babers move to yet another "turn around" situation? He's got to know that part of doing this is luck or things outside his control. Sooner or later, the magic will not work and then he'll be on a hot seat somewhere as several of his predecessors were before him.

Syracuse is an extremely good situation for Babers. Real expectations are pretty low and I think the working conditions are good. I'm basing that on how few coaches move on from here. SU has had a handful of football, basketball and lacrosse coaches in the very long time I have been a fan. Something in the water must be keeping them here. (I know we have "churned" some football coaches lately, but looking at the whole athletic department coaching stability is one of its hallmarks.)

Dino is just starting to feel the momentum shift. I'm guessing that he sense a different feel when he talks to recruits and the people who advise recruits. Other than playing for the always-on-top schools, nothing is better than playing for an up and comer. He's got the ball rolling. "Moving Up" is an exhilarating feeling.

If he can get SU into the top third of the ACC, he'll be seen as a hero here and a miracle worker everywhere. But until he shows he can stay on top (vs building a program), the market for his services will be much smaller than some SU fans think it might be. And the schools that come calling first will be much less attractive opportuntities.

 

[PhatOrange]

back to the thread topic. Even in a loss capitalizing would be to not embarrass ourselves. I believe HCDB playing with a full deck has given everybody a game so I'm not worried that' we'll embarrassing ourselves.

We might give up 40+ but I think we'll do our fair share of scoring to. This isn't a Clemson team that's sooo good you fear them. Should be fun.

 

[Orangezoo]

back to the thread topic. Even in a loss capitalizing would be to not embarrass ourselves. I believe HCDB playing with a full deck has given everybody a game so I'm not worried that' we'll embarrassing ourselves.

We might give up 40+ but I think we'll do our fair share scoring to. This isn't a Clemson team that's sooo good you fear them. Should be fun.

As long as we keep them in front of us ( Etienne significantly included), not having a QB who is going to jog off 30 yard runs should help us a lot. With that said we can't have Lawrence going crazy like Finley did in the past either.

 

[Townie72]

I'll never understand people that schedule weddings on Saturdays in September and October.

I gave my wife a list of about 7 Saturdays that were available.

I hope not. But when I read that I thought, "There's a decision this guy will regret a hundred times" as it is replayed to him or held against them as proof of his priorities. My expereince suggests that the memories of elephant's pale by comparison with the recall of wives of the circumstances of the courtship and the wedding.

 

[CousCuse]

I hope not. But when I read that I thought, "There's a decision this guy will regret a hundred times" as it is replayed to him or held against them as proof of his priorities. My expereince suggests that the memories of elephant's pale by comparison with the recall of wives of the circumstances of the courtship and the wedding.

That's when they start building their indictment.

 

[SUFan44]

Senior QB, improved D, veteran OL, high end special teams... yeah we have some issues at WR & LB, but I highly doubt we ever have a year that we don't have concern in one or two areas.

This is why Dino came to SU & hopefully why he stays. He has a chance to beat a Top 5 program and move into a position to have a chance for a special season.

Just think... every other year we have Clemson at our place. And we have proven we can hang with them in the Dome. If things align where we have a similar roster/scenario (i.e. next year with the dynamic transfers gaining eligibility or in three years with DeVito as a senior) and have Clemson at home... why not us? Hell, why not us this year?

 

[orange44]

Four games into the season with wins against OK competition and the nervous Nancies are worrying about he coach leaving.

Relax. Even if he is successful here, I don't think he's moving up. Not because he wouldn't do it, but because there won't be a lot of demand at "higher levels" of CFB for what Babers brings to the party.

He's a very clever guy and an inspirational leader. And that seems exactly right for bringing SU out of it's long sleep. We need strategies and tactics that work against teams with better athletes than ours until we can get better athletes. We need to coax super effort out of our players.

Schools at the top of the college heap don't need that. They play pretty much straight up and depend on superior athletes. They don't need to wring extraordinary effort out of the 5 Stars they have. These guys are good enough with just regular effort. They need precision using a standard approach to football. You won't see Alabama "playing fast" anytime soon.

A school that would be interested in a "turn-around" specialist like Babers is sitting at the bottom of their conference and wants to move up. He has shown he can do that. But why would Babers move to yet another "turn around" situation? He's got to know that part of doing this is luck or things outside his control. Sooner or later, the magic will not work and then he'll be on a hot seat somewhere as several of his predecessors were before him.

Syracuse is an extremely good situation for Babers. Real expectations are pretty low and I think the working conditions are good. I'm basing that on how few coaches move on from here. SU has had a handful of football, basketball and lacrosse coaches in the very long time I have been a fan. Something in the water must be keeping them here. (I know we have "churned" some football coaches lately, but looking at the whole athletic department coaching stability is one of its hallmarks.)

Dino is just starting to feel the momentum shift. I'm guessing that he sense a different feel when he talks to recruits and the people who advise recruits. Other than playing for the always-on-top schools, nothing is better than playing for an up and comer. He's got the ball rolling. "Moving Up" is an exhilarating feeling.

If he can get SU into the top third of the ACC, he'll be seen as a hero here and a miracle worker everywhere. But until he shows he can stay on top (vs building a program), the market for his services will be much smaller than some SU fans think it might be. And the schools that come calling first will be much less attractive opportuntities.

Could not agree more!!

 

[Trueblue25]

If you go that route, it's complete rebuild time. Stop me if you've heard this before, but we'll be full of players, not fitting into the new coaches offense. Sean Lewis has that Babers system, and that Babers swag. I think it would be a more seamless transition.

I’d be happy with either. Leipold’s not a complete rebuild guy. What he’s done at UB in a short amount of time is downright impressive. They have more NFL talent than many p5’s

 

[anomander]

Can people chill with already touting their choices for his replacement. Personally, I really don’t think he leaves for any job. I bet there are 3-5 jobs he would leave for. The one that would have me most worried is USC. I know some people in their east coast alumni club and Babers does seem to be their favorite choice, but I don’t know if he is a big enough name yet. Regardless I think all this talk is so premature and ridiculous I feel terrible that I just added to it.

 

[JRHEETER]

Senior QB, improved D, veteran OL, high end special teams... yeah we have some issues at WR & LB, but I highly doubt we ever have a year that we don't have concern in one or two areas.

This is why Dino came to SU & hopefully why he stays. He has a chance to beat a Top 5 program and move into a position to have a chance for a special season.

Just think... every other year we have Clemson at our place. And we have proven we can hang with them in the Dome. If things align where we have a similar roster/scenario (i.e. next year with the dynamic transfers gaining eligibility or in three years with DeVito as a senior) and have Clemson at home... why not us? Hell, why not us this year?

Exactly “why not this year.” We can beat Clemson. Drink the Orange Kool-Aid y’all! We have a special season ahead of us! Let’s embrace it!

 

[cuse62]

Yesterday, not only did we have that segment on College Football Live: but we received a mention on the Paul Finnbaum Show. He said Syracuse is a good football team and he liked what Coach Babers is doing.

 

[NKR1978]

We can’t be kicking field goals from the 5 yard line. Have to score touchdowns when the chances are there. A flawless game would be epic.

We haven't put together a great game yet. We've had great halves and quarters, but not a full game. Saturday would be a nice time to put in 60 minutes on offense and defense.

 

[FrancoPizza]

Four games into the season with wins against OK competition and the nervous Nancies are worrying about he coach leaving.

Relax. Even if he is successful here, I don't think he's moving up. Not because he wouldn't do it, but because there won't be a lot of demand at "higher levels" of CFB for what Babers brings to the party.

He's a very clever guy and an inspirational leader. And that seems exactly right for bringing SU out of it's long sleep. We need strategies and tactics that work against teams with better athletes than ours until we can get better athletes. We need to coax super effort out of our players.

Schools at the top of the college heap don't need that. They play pretty much straight up and depend on superior athletes. They don't need to wring extraordinary effort out of the 5 Stars they have. These guys are good enough with just regular effort. They need precision using a standard approach to football. You won't see Alabama "playing fast" anytime soon.

A school that would be interested in a "turn-around" specialist like Babers is sitting at the bottom of their conference and wants to move up. He has shown he can do that. But why would Babers move to yet another "turn around" situation? He's got to know that part of doing this is luck or things outside his control. Sooner or later, the magic will not work and then he'll be on a hot seat somewhere as several of his predecessors were before him.

Syracuse is an extremely good situation for Babers. Real expectations are pretty low and I think the working conditions are good. I'm basing that on how few coaches move on from here. SU has had a handful of football, basketball and lacrosse coaches in the very long time I have been a fan. Something in the water must be keeping them here. (I know we have "churned" some football coaches lately, but looking at the whole athletic department coaching stability is one of its hallmarks.)

Dino is just starting to feel the momentum shift. I'm guessing that he sense a different feel when he talks to recruits and the people who advise recruits. Other than playing for the always-on-top schools, nothing is better than playing for an up and comer. He's got the ball rolling. "Moving Up" is an exhilarating feeling.

If he can get SU into the top third of the ACC, he'll be seen as a hero here and a miracle worker everywhere. But until he shows he can stay on top (vs building a program), the market for his services will be much smaller than some SU fans think it might be. And the schools that come calling first will be much less attractive opportuntities.

But does Babers like living in snowy Syracuse? He’s from Hawaii and Texas. If he only sees this as a steppingstone then it’s just a matter of when.

 

[reedny]

I'll never understand people that schedule weddings on Saturdays in September and October.

I gave my wife a list of about 7 Saturdays that were available.

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[PhatOrange]

As long as we keep them in front of us ( Etienne significantly included), not having a QB who is going to jog off 30 yard runs should help us a lot. With that said we can't have Lawrence going crazy like Finley did in the past either.

Finley went crazy 2 seasons ago. We have a 1000% better defense now. Personnel is night and day.

 

[Trueblue25]

Can people chill with already touting their choices for his replacement. Personally, I really don’t think he leaves for any job. I bet there are 3-5 jobs he would leave for. The one that would have me most worried is USC. I know some people in their east coast alumni club and Babers does seem to be their favorite choice, but I don’t know if he is a big enough name yet. Regardless I think all this talk is so premature and ridiculous I feel terrible that I just added to it.

Just to be clear, I doubt he leaves. I enjoy speculating. Just glad we have Jay Wright waiting patiently for JB

 

[Trueblue25]

This is our DL’s shot at the spotlight.

Anyone else get a superstar, bright lights appeal from Robinson? I watch some of the big edge rushers in the NFL, and Alton’s not that far off imo.

 

[PhatOrange]

But does Babers like living in snowy Syracuse? He’s from Hawaii and Texas. If he only sees this as a steppingstone then it’s just a matter of when.

I wouldn't think he wants to spend his entire head coaching career rebuilding programs. At some point - especially with his age - he's going to want to enjoy the fruits of the labor and try to win a championship with a program he's built up.

 

[OrangeTown]

Back to the thread topic.

I've never been married. I did myself a favor.

 

[edowd26]

Back to the thread topic.

I've never been married. I did myself a favor.

no one likes a bragger.

 

[IthacaBarrel]

Can people chill with already touting their choices for his replacement. Personally, I really don’t think he leaves for any job. I bet there are 3-5 jobs he would leave for. The one that would have me most worried is USC. I know some people in their east coast alumni club and Babers does seem to be their favorite choice, but I don’t know if he is a big enough name yet. Regardless I think all this talk is so premature and ridiculous I feel terrible that I just added to it.

USC has won 10-11 games past two seasons as well. Finished 3ed in 2016 and 11th in 2017..Lets let their season play out as well before we fire their coach.

 

[sufandu]

As much as i love this i have a sick feeling in my stomach. I Cannot stop thinking about Dino’s replacement. I felt strongly we should go all in w Dino last year and give big extension (5 more years whatever he wanted ) with really large buyout. I guess it’s oossible that occurred since we are private and do not need to report but i sense that did not occur... i know enjoy ride and might not have mattered but large buyout would have helped with next hire.

Buffalo coach and Sean Lewis are 2 coaches i am watching. Lewis would be easy not so sure about bufffalo coach. He might have a ton of options.

I hear you. I very much prefer the alternative. Sucking for nearly two decades in anonymity, or worse, as a laughing stock was way better than what's happening now. At least then we had control of when we fired out coach.

Stop this crap. If he leaves, he leaves. Enjoy the ride while we have it. We haven't even had any real success yet and people start wringing their hands as soon as we start getting the least bit of national attention.

Wildhack is not a moron, he knows what needs to be done to retain Dino when that becomes appropriate and if that is out of reach.

 

[Townie72]

That's when they start building their indictment.

As philosopher Cris Rock once said, "Women ain't got a lot of little thing like sense mess up their argument. Cuz she ain't in it for sense, she's in it for distance and irritation.

"How long can I talk before this mfer snaps?~"

Making her chose a date because of SU football schedule is just one more arrow in the sling.

 

[OrangeDW]

As philosopher Cris Rock once said, "Women ain't got a lot of little thing like sense their argument. Cuz she ain't in it for sense, she's in it for distance and irritation.

"How long can I talk before this mfer snaps?~"

Making her chose a date because of SU football schedule is just one more arrow in the sling.

I read this in Michael from The Office’s Chris Rock impression voice.