Conference by Conference Bowl Results

[Orangeyes]

Updated

With 2 bowls to go here are how the conferences are faring before the start of play on Saturday

SEC (7-2)

Winners

S Carolina

LSU

Texas A&M

Miss St

Ole Miss

Missouri

Vandy

Losers

Alabama

Georgia

TBD

Auburn

ACC (4-6)

Winners

Syracuse

No Carolina

Pitt

Clemson

Losers

Virginia Tech

Miami

Duke

Boston College

Georgia Tech

Maryland

TBD

Florida St

Big 10 (2-5)

Winners

Mich St

Nebraska

Losers

Wisconsin

Iowa

Michigan

Minnesota

Ohio St

Big 12 (3-3)

Winners

Oklahoma

Tex Tech

Kansas St

Losers

Baylor

Texas

Oklahoma St

Pac 12 (6-3)

Winners

Oregon

UCLA

USC

Arizona

Washington

Oregon St

Losers

Arizona St

Stanford

Washington St

AAC (2-3)

Winners

Louisville

UCF

Losers

Cinncinnati

Rutgers

Houston

MW (3-3)

Winners

Utah St

Sn Diego St

Colorado St

Losers

Fresno St

UNLV

Boise St

MAC (0-4)

Winners

Losers

No Illinios

Bowling Green

Ohio

Buffalo

TBD

Ball St

C-USA (3-3)

Winners

No Texas

Marshall

East Carolina

Losers

Rice

Middle Tenn

Tulane

Sun Belt (1-0)

Winners

La-Lafayette

Losers

TBD

Arkansas St

Indies (2-1)

Winner

Notre Dame

Navy

Loser

BYU

 

[BlazeOrange]

I'd be more interested in seeing it based on next season's alignment, but don't know the Sun Belt-->CUSA--->AAK type moves (any changes to the MAC or MWC coming up?) well enough to make the revision.

 

[dasher]

what matters is the # of wins. It isn't a bad thing to have a lot of losses in bowl games if you have a lot of wins.

 

[OrangePA]

I'd really like that Duke game back.

Beating Texas A&M would have been quite an achievement for the ACC.

 

[JoeSU]

So if you take these records at face value, does one conclude the MW and AAC are stronger conferences this year than the B1G or ACC? I don't know how to interpret these bowl results.
IMO a better indication would be head-to-head matchups (perhaps extending to the regular season as well).

 

[Alsacs]

B1G is starting to take the hit nationally that the Big East and ACC have been taking. The conference is wealthy in terms of TV revenue and not endanger of every not being rich, but the conference is the dying region of the country and if not for Michigan State would be getting hammered worse. I was listening yesterday to Scott Van Pelt already try to spin for the B1G because Maryland is joining and Ryen Russillo didn't agree at first with Van Pelt defending the B1G's performance thanks to Michigan State win and after a couple of minutes Russillo just shut up instead of arguing with Van Pelt. This leads me to believe Delany is good at PR and uses whomever in the media he can to try and spin positively for the B1G. Ohio State beat nobody of worth this year they lost their only 2 big games Michigan State and Clemson with teams with similar talent. Urban Meyer is recruiting better for Ohio State, but all these losses will take its toll and Clemson winning was HUGE for the ACC. If Florida State wins the NC then the ACC will be the only conference to win 2 BCS games this year AND end the SEC title streak.

 

[baggerbob]

Auburn being in that game is going to end up being the SEC's worst nightmare, Florida St could hang 70 points on them.

 

[dasher]

So if you take these records at face value, does one conclude the MW and AAC are stronger conferences this year than the B1G or ACC? I don't know how to interpret these bowl results.
IMO a better indication would be head-to-head matchups (perhaps extending to the regular season as well).

4-6 in this case is better than 2-2. It's the number of wins you get. You have to think that if the AAC got 10 teams in, they would be 2-8 since those teams weren't good enough to get in , in the first place.

 

[wfschrec]

Well the MWC is only 1-2 against AQ schools ... just saying ..

 

[Fjoinkay]

The Pac12 and the SEC are both strong. The Pac12 has earned a lot more respect in the past few years, but is often overlooked in the national media. B1G is moving in the right direction in my opinion. I missed Van Pelt's comments, but I have a feeling I would agree with him on this.

The divisions the B1G is moving to in 2014 are stacked in the East, but in the West not so much. This makes winning the national championship a little more difficult. I understand that the B1G stuck to the map and divided the conference rigidly based on geography, but sometimes it's better to adapt and to play by the same rules that other conferences use. For example, the B1G schools should all schedule a push-over out of conference game in November the week before each school's game # 12 or rivalry game. If the SEC does it (and it's within the rules), do it. The ACC adapts and is more flexible than the B1G which is one reason why the ACC has a chance to become equal to or better than the B1G as a football conference.

I do think the football in the B1G is improving. Iowa hung with LSU. Wisconsin played well against a very good South Carolina team, and I expect Gary Andersen to improve the Badgers over time. Really, this year it would have made more sense to schedule Pac12 schools against SEC schools, but the B1G schools made the games competitive anyway. B1G football finally seems to be faster at key positions including the offensive and defensive line play. Urban Meyer despite the loss last night to Clemson will have Ohio State very quick and big on both sides. The defense is behind the offense at OSU right now, but I'm pretty sure the defense will catch up. The question is whether Brady Hoke is the answer at Michigan, whether Penn State hires the right guy, and whether Nebraska can win big games with Bo Pelini. Michigan State will be strong with Dantonio.

 

[wfschrec]

The Pac12 and the SEC are both strong. The Pac12 has earned a lot more respect in the past few years, but is often overlooked in the national media. B1G is moving in the right direction in my opinion. I missed Van Pelt's comments, but I have a feeling I would agree with him on this.

The divisions the B1G is moving to in 2014 are stacked in the East, but in the West not so much. This makes winning the national championship a little more difficult. I understand that the B1G stuck to the map and divided the conference rigidly based on geography, but sometimes it's better to adapt and to play by the same rules that other conferences use. For example, the B1G schools should all schedule a push-over out of conference game in November the week before each school's game # 12 or rivalry game. If the SEC does it (and it's within the rules), do it. The ACC adapts and is more flexible than the B1G which is one reason why the ACC has a chance to become equal to or better than the B1G as a football conference.

I do think the football in the B1G is improving. Iowa hung with LSU. Wisconsin played well against a very good South Carolina team, and I expect Gary Andersen to improve the Badgers over time. Really, this year it would have made more sense to schedule Pac12 schools against SEC schools, but the B1G schools made the games competitive anyway. B1G football finally seems to be faster at key positions including the offensive and defensive line play. Urban Meyer despite the loss last night to Clemson will have Ohio State very quick and big on both sides. The defense is behind the offense at OSU right now, but I'm pretty sure the defense will catch up. The question is whether Brady Hoke is the answer at Michigan, whether Penn State hires the right guy, and whether Nebraska can win big games with Bo Pelini. Michigan State will be strong with Dantonio.

I disagree with the B1G improving ... frankly I think adding RU and MD makes them worse as a whole. In the past few years they have been able to hang in some bowl games OSU only lost by 1 score to UF in 2011 for example but they just can't win in OOC when they play the heavies that is the bottom line. And based on the thought process of some on this board the SEC West is loaded and the SEC East is weak and that is the pitfall that makes it "easy" for a Bama or Auburn to get to the BCS title game. The B1G is one of the biggest most overrated monstrosities in sports ... its the same with their basketball conference ... its all about history and PR. If UGA isn't injury riddled they would only have 1 bowl win ... sorry but that isn't good.

And Iowa hanging with LSU had more to do with Mettenberger missing and LSU grinding it out on the ground with Hill then anything else ...

 

[Fjoinkay]

My sense is that B1G football has been down for a long time possibly 10 years now, and right now I see improvement. Time will tell. The other day some people on ESPN were talking about Penn State being stuck in the past. This was in reference to some of the pressure Bill O'Brien faced from alumni. I think B1G football across the board has been stuck in the late 20th century. Finally B1G football is showing some signs of change. The midwest is like that sometimes.

 

[wfschrec]

My sense is that B1G football has been down for a long time possibly 10 years now, and right now I see improvement. Time will tell. The other day some people on ESPN were talking about Penn State being stuck in the past. This was in reference to some of the pressure Bill O'Brien faced from alumni. I think B1G football across the board has been stuck in the late 20th century. Finally B1G football is showing some signs of change. The midwest is like that sometimes.

They tried to change ... remember the Rich-Rod Michigan experiment? They have been playing relatively the same style of football for about a century and whether their progress is score margin they still aren't winning as a matter of fact their bowl record and participation is the same this year as last ... I hope that whole conference drops off into the ocean they are about as fun to watch as drying paint.

 

[Fjoinkay]

Urban Meyer is the catalyst for change. Dantoni coached for Nick Saban, and Dantoni is doing great work just like he did at Cincy. Gary Andersen is a change of pace for Wisconsin. We'll see about Brady Hoke at Michigan, Penn State, Nebraska et.al. Time will tell.

 

[wfschrec]

Urban Meyer is the catalyst for change. Dantoni coached for Nick Saban, and Dantoni is doing great work just like he did at Cincy. Gary Andersen is a change of pace for Wisconsin. We'll see about Brady Hoke at Michigan, Penn State, Nebraska et.al. Time will tell.

Urban Meyer isn't ... had he brought along Mullen I would then agree ... there is a reason UF went on a steady decline after Mullen left even with Meyer there ... his health wasn't the primary reason he left UF and I know UF grads that will state that same thing. He saw a weak B1G as an opportunity to reach the BCS title game easier than he did at UF and that is a fact. Hows that working out for you Urban? 2009 was Mullen's first year at Miss St. which was the turning point when UF started to decline, Meyer saw the writing on the wall after the 2010 season and bailed ... OSU is obviously in a better position to get him to the BCS title game its in a vastly overrated conference, he has 1 loss in 2 seasons (not counting their bowl game) using Tressel holdovers ... something Tressel couldn't do with essentially the same roster. The B1G overall is not progressing ... they are digressing to some degree. An 8-4 Minny squad looked pathetic against SU ... and several of the other members were exposed. I know the Minny score was close but look at the stat lines, take away those two big plays due to coverage breakdowns and its not even close ... SU owned them in the trenches.

 

[wfschrec]

Urban Meyer is the catalyst for change. Dantoni coached for Nick Saban, and Dantoni is doing great work just like he did at Cincy. Gary Andersen is a change of pace for Wisconsin. We'll see about Brady Hoke at Michigan, Penn State, Nebraska et.al. Time will tell.

I like Dantoni don't get me wrong but if you put MSU in the SEC they aren't in a BCS Bowl, it was a miracle they only lost 1 game they were very unflattering in quite a few wins and losing to ND is beyond my comprehension not even Stanford pulled that trick.

 

[FreakTalksAboutSU]

Fascinating that the addition of Pitt SU, and Louisville are essentially what will get this team from disaster to decent

 

[baggerbob]

If you go ACC before adding Syracuse, Pitt, they are 2-6 so far. Newcomers Syracuse, Pittsburgh, Louisville, Partial Notre Dame are 4-0.

 

[SaltineWarrior]

If you go ACC before adding Syracuse, Pitt, they are 2-6 so far. Newcomers Syracuse, Pittsburgh, Louisville, Partial Notre Dame are 4-0.

Excellent point. Add 1 1/2 wins; take away Maryland's loss and its a more accurate representation of this conference going forward.

 

[shantydaze]

For perspective, one should also look at the quality of competition.

Updated

With 2 bowls to go here are how the conferences are faring before the start of play on Saturday

SEC (7-2)

Wins

AAC - 1

ACC - 2

B1G - 2

C-USA - 1

XII - 1

Loses

B1G - 1

XII - 1

TBD

ACC

ACC (4-6)

Wins

AAC - 1

B1G - 2

MAC - 1

Loses

AAC - 1

C-USA - 1

PAC - 2

SEC - 2

TBD

SEC

Big 10 (2-5)

Wins

PAC - 1

SEC - 1

Loses

ACC - 2

XII - 1

SEC - 2

Big 12 (3-3)

Wins

B1G - 1

PAC - 1

SEC - 1

Loses

AAC - 1

PAC - 1

SEC - 1

Pac 12 (6-3)

Wins

ACC - 2

Ind (BYU) - 1

MWC - 2

XII - 1

Loses

B1G - 1

MWC - 1

XII - 1

It is interesting to see which conferences loaded up on wins against schools not in one of the P-5 conferences. Half of the bowl wins for the PAC and ACC came against non P-5 conferences.