Conference news updates for 8/11: Big Ten and PAC12 OUT

[bpo57]

Interesting part about several ACC teams having zero positive tests.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[CuseLegacy]

 

[DoctorBombay]

This is like the 5 families of the NYC mafia.

"Barzini's dead, so is Philip Tattaglia, Stracchi, Cuneo...all the heads of the Five families".

 

[RCDICK44]

Smart move by the Big 10. Hopefully other conferences follow suit and we can get a real season with everyone playing at the same time beginning in March.

I don't really like playing in the spring. If a player gets injured he could end up missing 2 seasons of football depending on the injury.

 

[cuse10]

Interesting part about several ACC teams having zero positive tests.

A lot of people will never get it or if they did, they were asymptomatic. I myself tested negative and don't have antibodies despite being outside regularly.

 

[RandomGuy]

I don't really like playing in the spring. If a player gets injured he could end up missing 2 seasons of football depending on the injury.

Another reason the players are seeking a covid year eligibity waiver... If the schools decide the player isn't worth it? They should have the right to waive that player, but the player keeps the year.

 

[ImperialOrange]

I have no idea, hence the use of the word “If”.

Gotcha, so purely hypothetical. Yes, IF that happened as you described would be a bad look.
Personally I can't see that scenario playing out but anything is possible... It's 2020 after all

 

[ImperialOrange]

Is Cuse running weekly tests on all students? A recent study came out that expects infections to reach about 36% of the student body, for schools that dont.

No idea, perhaps someone with a child in SU can speak to it.

36% of the SU students or all colleges? If you post the link, would love to take a look

 

[CousCuse]

I expect AZ and AZST and probably USC to bolt from the PAC12. That conference has been losing status for quite a while.

 

[Stern]

 

[cuse10]

 

[bpo57]

Hopefully these three conferences stay resolute.

So much negative reaction to the B1G and P-12 will probably embolden these guys.

This could break a lot of different ways but it has the potential to be an epic fail for the B1G.

 

[RandomGuy]

No idea, perhaps someone with a child in SU can speak to it.

36% of the SU students or all colleges? If you post the link, would love to take a look

I believe this is it. No testing for 5000 students = 1800 infections. Yes. There are mitigation strategies to lower that #. I think the best was 243? Apologies. I Read the synopsis.

SARS-CoV-2 Screening Strategies to Permit the Safe Reopening of College Campuses in the United States

This analytic modeling study defines the screening performance standards for severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) tests that would permit the safe return of students to US residential college campuses for the fall 2020 semester.

jamanetwork.com

 

[JeffCuse]

I don't really like playing in the spring. If a player gets injured he could end up missing 2 seasons of football depending on the injury.

Fair But if he catches covid his lungs of heart could be -ed for life

 

[longislandcuse]

Fair But if he catches covid his lungs of heart could be -ed for life

Well, that just brings us back to the debate on whether players are anymore insulated from the virus not playing football vs playing football.

If a player catches COVID and is one of the rare people who has serious complications, that doesn’t change if they catch it on campus or in the locker room.

With teams discussing their testing results, it seems like they’re doing pretty well with this. The real test, of course, comes with students back on campus.

 

[ImperialOrange]

I believe this is it. No testing for 5000 students = 1800 infections. Yes. There are mitigation strategies to lower that #. I think the best was 243? Apologies. I Read the synopsis.

SARS-CoV-2 Screening Strategies to Permit the Safe Reopening of College Campuses in the United States

This analytic modeling study defines the screening performance standards for severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) tests that would permit the safe return of students to US residential college campuses for the fall 2020 semester.

jamanetwork.com

Interesting read for sure. Specifically pertains to living in dorms where positive cases arise. I think proper pod structures could potentially mitigate risk, specifically with the football team BUT chance of getting 100% compliance across all dorms is basically nil. There's always a few that feel they are above the rules and sans any serious recourse for activity leading to and including positive tests you won't get 100% but in.

I'm not sure in person classes will last long but requisite to get out of state, and out of country students back on campus I believe.

 

[Nāraṅga]

This makes no sense at all

Sure it does. They've been doing pretty well in their own little bubbles. The greater concern is interaction with others beyond their bubbles. With games, there is always one team who will be exposed to outside people as they travel to wherever the game is to be played, thereby bringing whatever they are exposed to to the home team. If they stay home and just keep practicing for the next opportunity to play, there is not as great a risk.

 

[RandomGuy]

I believe this is it. No testing for 5000 students = 1800 infections. Yes. There are mitigation strategies to lower that #. I think the best was 243? Apologies. I Read the synopsis.

SARS-CoV-2 Screening Strategies to Permit the Safe Reopening of College Campuses in the United States

This analytic modeling study defines the screening performance standards for severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) tests that would permit the safe return of students to US residential college campuses for the fall 2020 semester.

jamanetwork.com

Here you go. Worst case with testing, 1840 infections out of 5000 students. Symptomatic screening yields 4970 positives out of 5000.

 

[PhatOrange]

Syracuse University reports 3 active coronavirus cases; 0 found during first freshman move-in day

Syracuse's first round of coronavirus screening did not find any cases and allowed the school to keep five positive cases from reaching Central New York.

www.syracuse.com

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Forget about leading, these people live to fall back on the "but everyone else is doing it" rationale.

Profiles in courage.

We've constructed a society that punishes actual leadership and decision making.

 

[RandomGuy]

Interesting read for sure. Specifically pertains to living in dorms where positive cases arise. I think proper pod structures could potentially mitigate risk, specifically with the football team BUT chance of getting 100% compliance across all dorms is basically nil. There's always a few that feel they are above the rules and sans any serious recourse for activity leading to and including positive tests you won't get 100% but in.

I'm not sure in person classes will last long but requisite to get out of state, and out of country students back on campus I believe.

You can interpret this study any way you choose. The R value they chose is all over the place- varying depending on the scientist's estimate. It doesn't account for waste water monitoring -Our strategy, that has shown success. I do think its important to note, that symptomatic only testing results in a near 100% infection rate. Its also important to note, that models don't necessarily reflect reality.

With drinking/socializing the #1 risk factor, and living in a group setting the #2? I tend to lean towards their findings.

 

[Scooch]

We've constructed a society that punishes actual leadership and decision making.

Whining and grievance is sooooo much more fulfilling though

 

[JeffCuse]

Well, that just brings us back to the debate on whether players are anymore insulated from the virus not playing football vs playing football.

If a player catches COVID and is one of the rare people who has serious complications, that doesn’t change if they catch it on campus or in the locker room.

With teams discussing their testing results, it seems like they’re doing pretty well with this. The real test, of course, comes with students back on campus.

Major circles here indeed.

Barring a strict bubble (there would not be one) cases on campuses and teams are inevitable. And transmission in a full body contact sport is as well.

Spring is much safer.

And yes, there are consequences to that I understand. I personally believe muscle and tissue injury that could come from condensed seasons are Less worrisome than muscle and other athletic injury but we can disagree there

 

[OrangeXtreme]