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[atom58]

The total revenue comes from ticket sales, donations, and TV money. Since this is the total revenue per program and conference, what is hidden in all this is the effect of stadium size. Conferences with larger football stadiums can earn more money as long as paying customers are in those seats. The Big 10 and the SEC have on average the largest stadiums with schools like Michigan and Tennessee for instance having more than 100,000 per game. FSU's stadium holds 80,000 but Florida's holds 90,000, etc., and also in the ACC the four smallest stadiums belong to Wake (31,500), Duke (40,000 after recent expansion), BC (44,500), and SU (49,262). The fact that the Carrier Dome can be configured to allow large basketball crowds makes a major impact in SU's basketball money. I think the ACC stadiums are smaller on average and even at a program like Duke the basketball arena seats only 9,314.

 

[bpo57]

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[bpo57]

Syracuse should never ever cry poor. Our only disadvantage is we don't have alumni boosters who are idiotically dumping money into sports programs. Guys like Marty Whitman spend intelligently on things like business schools.

It makes me laugh when I see LSU boosters looking to write 17mm checks to dump Les Miles when their university is perilously close to being bankrupt.

Lots of reasons for optimism for a school like Syracuse that is planning smartly.

I hear ya but funny you mention Marty Whitman as his Third Avenue Fund just had a complete meltdown a few weeks ago.

 

[CuseOnly]

The total revenue comes from ticket sales, donations, and TV money. Since this is the total revenue per program and conference, what is hidden in all this is the effect of stadium size. Conferences with larger football stadiums can earn more money as long as paying customers are in those seats. The Big 10 and the SEC have on average the largest stadiums with schools like Michigan and Tennessee for instance having more than 100,000 per game. FSU's stadium holds 80,000 but Florida's holds 90,000, etc., and also in the ACC the four smallest stadiums belong to Wake (31,500), Duke (40,000 after recent expansion), BC (44,500), and SU (49,262). The fact that the Carrier Dome can be configured to allow large basketball crowds makes a major impact in SU's basketball money. I think the ACC stadiums are smaller on average and even at a program like Duke the basketball arena seats only 9,314.

Revenue from football ticket sales is a tiny portion of the overall athletic budget, you are taking 1-3% for most schools. TV revenue is king.

 

[Ottoble]

if we boost ticket sales for football 10K by being good and not bad that only changes the net by a few million, that just shows how little people in the seats changes revenue.

Ticket Sales alone yeah don't forget:
Consessions
Merchendise
Donations
More favorable money arrangements for OOC games

 

[CuseOnly]

Ticket Sales alone yeah don't forget:
Consessions
Merchendise
Donations
More favorable money arrangements for OOC games

Most teams in the ACC pay for OOC games to come to play them at home, not sure how that is relevant. Paying for wins OOC.

Only the top 10 teams in the P5 along with Oregon make huge bank from merchandise, most of that money is a few mil a year from Nike, Adidas and UA.

Concession are even lesser dollars, most teams don't even sell alcohol at stadiums.

 

[atom58]

Revenue from football ticket sales is a tiny portion of the overall athletic budget, you are taking 1-3% for most schools. TV revenue is king.

The following link gives some interesting information from 2011-2012:

http://www.fool.com/investing/gener...ate-football-season-ticket-sales-skyrock.aspx

Note that FSU is 14th on the list with $17,920,280 from football ticket sales and 12,704,978 from donations giving a total of $30,625,258.
Nearly $18 million in football ticket sales alone is pretty significant. With the exception of Texas [and Oklahoma], the top 13 are all SEC and Big 10 schools with big stadiums (most > 80,000 I would guess). Note Ohio State was getting nearly $42 million from football ticket sales!

 

[CuseOnly]

The following link gives some interesting information from 2011-2012:

http://www.fool.com/investing/gener...ate-football-season-ticket-sales-skyrock.aspx

Note that FSU is 14th on the list with $17,920,280 from football ticket sales and 12,704,978 from donations giving a total of $30,625,258.
Nearly $18 million in football ticket sales alone is pretty significant. With the exception of Texas, the top 13 are all SEC and Big 10 schools with big stadiums (most > 80,000 I would guess). Note Ohio State was getting nearly $42 million from football ticket sales!

Who would have known or guessed that the defending national champs had a ridiculous uptick in season tickets and donations. These numbers are the season after their NC which I am certain Skew's the numbers...just a bit. 200% more tickets sold than previous year and over 250% more in contributions, so that contribution number is normally around 6 mil.

 

[Moontan]

Revenue from football ticket sales is a tiny portion of the overall athletic budget, you are taking 1-3% for most schools. TV revenue is king.

1-3% is way off. 20-35% is more accurate. I suspect this to be true for SU as well, thanks in large part to hoops. Here are some figures from around the country. Big, full, football stadia do help.

Arkansas 39%
Texas 37%
tO$U 36%
Michigan 35%
aTm 34%
Kentucky 33%
Mizzou 32%
Oklahoma 32%
Tennessee 32%
NC State 33%
Clemson 31%
Louisville 29%
UNC 29%
WVU 28%
Auburn 27%
Minnesota 27%
MSU 26%
UCLA 26%
Alabama 25%
Iowa 25%
Kansas 25%
Ole Miss 25%
VPI 25%
OK St 24%
Wisconsin 24%
Georgia 23%
South Carolina 23%
FSU 22%
Illinois 22%
KSU 22%
Purdue 22%
Indiana 19%
Maryland 19%
Miss St 19%
Florida 18%
GA Tech 18%
Oregon 18%
Virginia 17%
Yukon 17%
Rutgirls 15%

Note: these figures are from the Huffington Post article linked in a previous post above.

 

[atom58]

Who would have known or guessed that the defending national champs had a ridiculous uptick in season tickets and donations. These numbers are the season after their NC which I am certain Skew's the numbers...just a bit. 200% more tickets sold than previous year and over 250% more in contributions, so that contribution number is normally around 6 mil.

Keep in mind that the numbers in that table near the bottom of the linked page are from three years ago. This also goes with the Coaching Carousel - if attendance drops as it usually does with losing seasons, pressure builds on the AD to make a change, following which attendance usually increases. College athletics has become a big business - football and men's basketball in particular as they support all the other sports - the best that can be done is to try to run a clean program and at least break even. Now I know that at some ACC schools baseball and women's basketball draw large crowds - which is good - but I think the tickets to those games cost less too.

 

[Moontan]

Keep in mind that the numbers in that table near the bottom of the linked page are from three years ago.

The data used in my posts cover a 5 year period, 2010-2014. They are consistent with the observations made by others. It's not clear if the revenue associated with ticket sales include mandatory athletic donations which may be associated with them.

As someone else pointed out, it's not just the tickets... once people are attending a game they will purchase concessions, park their cars, etc.. A full dome vs. 30,000 tickets sold could be a difference of $400-$600k, or more, per game.