Cooney

[Entropic]

Very confused by this. Should we keep giving them to Trevor and having him go 2 for 15? LOL. Wake up. I get that their is a huge Cooney love fest on this site... but it's insane. The kid is ok. He has all heart. But he has to shoot better if we are going deep in March

shooters gotta shoot just like kickers gotta kick.

 

[iommi]

Not one person said he had a great game or that he looked good on offense... is your reading comprehension at UNC basketball level or lower?

That's all we are saying, he's a shooter who shot very poorly today. Too many people put words into people mouths. The kid is a good player, he played poorly today because he couldn't hit the ocean. It happens.

 

[Entropic]

multiple people have said he had a good game despite him shooting 1 for 10000000. This is false. He is a shooter. That's his role. Grow up dude. You are embarrassing yourself. ... again

again?! darn, you are right I should stop making sense. Cooney is the lowest of low and needs to be stuck back behind the walk ons. Everyone grab your pitchforks!

 

[jekelish]

multiple people have said he had a good game despite him shooting 1 for 10000000. This is false. He is a shooter. That's his role. Grow up dude. You are embarrassing yourself. ... again

Okay, he'll be glad to hear that as soon as the team goes on defense he has no actual job in the game, so he can just kind of relax and wait for the team to get back into the offensive half of the court.

 

[Statesman1]

Very confused by this. Should we keep giving them to Trevor and having him go 2 for 15? LOL. Wake up. I get that their is a huge Cooney love fest on this site... but it's insane. The kid is ok. He has all heart. But he has to shoot better if we are going deep in March

I love how TBCuse always knows better than the coaches. Jimmy B has his autograph on the court, sees the players every day in practice, but TB wants 15 shots a game for our backup 2 guard...

 

[Entropic]

That's all we are saying, he's a shooter who shot very poorly today. Too many people put words into people mouths. The kid is a good player, he played poorly today because he couldn't hit the ocean. It happens.

So if Dustin Pedroia goes 0-5 batting and turns 4 double plays, 2 put outs and 3 assists in the field. He played poorly by your standards because he failed to produce as well as he should offensively correct?

 

[jordoo]

multiple people have said he had a good game despite him shooting 1 for 10000000. This is false. He is a shooter. That's his role. Grow up dude. You are embarrassing yourself. ... again

And you are once again attacking people rather than what they posted. He shot horribly that is different than playing horribly. His transition defense was great as was his ball security especialy compared to CJ and Ennis. The problem is some still believe that all Cooney brings is shooting which is false IMO.

 

[iommi]

So if Dustin Pedroia goes 0-5 batting and turns 4 double plays, 2 put outs and 3 assists in the field. He played poorly by your standards because he failed to produce as well as he should offensively correct?

Poor comparison. Trevor is a shooter, not a complete offensive player. Pedroia is a player who impacts the game in many ways.

Trevor played well outside of his pathetic shooting, but his role is to be our primary outside shooter, a role he sucked in TODAY.

 

[Entropic]

Poor comparison. Trevor is a shooter, not a complete offensive player. Pedroia is a player who impacts the game in many ways.

Trevor played well outside of his pathetic shooting, but his role is to be our primary outside shooter, a role he sucked in TODAY.

Trevor doesn't impact the game in many ways? Thats a weird thing to say.

 

[jekelish]

Poor comparison. Trevor is a shooter, not a complete offensive player. Pedroia is a player who impacts the game in many ways.

Trevor played well outside of his pathetic shooting, but his role is to be our primary outside shooter, a role he sucked in TODAY.

His role is not limited to just shooting. Yes, he's our best shooter. But if that was truly his ONLY role on the court, do you honestly believe he'd be in the starting lineup? JB doesn't start him because shooting is all he brings to the table. He's a freaking basketball player. He plays at both ends of the floor. Shooting is ONE FACET of the game. He performed poorly in that facet today. He only turned the ball over once, created several turnovers, grabbed a couple rebounds, and was generally disruptive. He did not fail in his role, because, again, his role is to help the team win however possible.

Check me if I'm wrong, but we won. He hit a couple big shots. He came up with some big defensive plays. Did he not perform his role of helping the team win? Jesus.

 

[jordoo]

That's all we are saying, he's a shooter who shot very poorly today. Too many people put words into people mouths. The kid is a good player, he played poorly today because he couldn't hit the ocean. It happens.

He is not just ashooter perhaps that is where the disagreement comes in. Some seem to think his only value is as a shooter. One person just has a vendeta against the kid for whatever reason.

 

[jordoo]

Because Cooney has now started to shoot poorly as a trend, Ennis had just one sub-par game. We are hoping this isn't becoming a trend with Cooney as conference play rolls on. That's why I hope he shoots well against BC to get his mojo back.

Cooney has shot poorly we won all 3 games. He had threads started after each game and also before he had any bad shooting games. I also hope he bounces back with his shooting against BC.

 

[iommi]

He is not just ashooter perhaps that is where the disagreement comes in. Some seem to think his only value is as a shooter. One person just has a vendeta against the kid for whatever reason.

I have no vendetta against him. I love his ability and effort. His improvement is a huge reason for our success, I just hope his recent shooting issues aren't becoming a trend.

 

[jordoo]

Nope but how about better than 15%. Silent G needs more run. I will continue to get bashed by the "experts" on this forum but I'm fine w that. Two games in a row we were better when G want on the floor. Cooney absolutely made some very nice plays on D... but give Silent G 15 shots a game and he does much better. All the Cooney lovers need to accept that he should sit more when he plays like he did today. All that matters is a W though. And we have lots of them.

You do realize G would shoot less than 15% all season on Cooney's looks while Cooney would shoot 50% on G's looks right. Completely different shots and they are defended completely differently although I would like to see G pull the tiger a bit more on his WIDE OPEN THE DEFENSE LEFT HIM LOOKS FROM 3!

 

[jordoo]

I have no vendetta against him. I love his ability and effort. His improvement is a huge reason for our success, I just hope his recent shooting issues isn't becoming a trend.

I wasn't referring to you with the vendetta sorry if that was unclear. I think you are jumpy about Cooney's shooting but genuinely just concerned not a hater IMO.

 

[NKR1978]

Has any player been held up to the standard TC is? Devendorf wasn't half the defensive player Cooney is and he had plenty of poor shooting games yet he was almost always given a pass for a poor on court performance. Cooney plays great D, he's generally very careful with the ball and makes good decisions. He's having a really solid season and will continue to do so regardless whether he has a poor shooting night.

 

[iommi]

I wasn't referring to you with the vendetta sorry if that was unclear. I think you are jumpy about Cooney's shooting but genuinely just concerned not a hater IMO.

I am a passionate fan and I tend to be very reactionary with my posts because of my passion.

You know I'm hoping like hell he shoots well against BC.

 

[CuseFaninVT]

Okay, he'll be glad to hear that as soon as the team goes on defense he has no actual job in the game, so he can just kind of relax and wait for the team to get back into the offensive half of the court.

Exactly. JB loves to play guys who show nothing on the defensive end. They always get tons of run.

 

[Statesman1]

That's all we are saying, he's a shooter who shot very poorly today. Too many people put words into people mouths. The kid is a good player, he played poorly today because he couldn't hit the ocean. It happens.

People who say Cooney is only a shooter don't watch 1/2 the game or understand his role on the team. Dude is also a pesky defender who draws lots of attention on the offensive end. Matt Roe was a streaky shooter and a complete liability on the defensive end. When Cooney's not on the court that attention goes to other players. Face it even on an off shooting night you have to get a hand in his face and defend the whole court as he has proven this year he can get hot quickly. Silent G doesn't demand that kind of attention because he is not as good a shooter as Cooney. This is a fact.

 

[jordoo]

I am a passionate fan and I tend to be very reactionary with my posts because of my passion.

You know I'm hoping like hell he shoots well against BC.

I do know that just like you know me disagreeing with you isn't personal its just 2 fans with different perspectives we want to see the team and players thrive. Its all we are 16-0

 

[jordoo]

Has any player been held up to the standard TC is? Devendorf wasn't half the defensive player Cooney is and he had plenty of poor shooting games yet he was almost always given a pass for a poor on court performance. Cooney plays great D, he's generally very careful with the ball and makes good decisions. He's having a really solid season and will continue to do so regardless whether he has a poor shooting night.

I can't think of any off the top of my head especially while we are winning games which is strange. Scoop was pretty polarizing as a Junior as I recall.

 

[iommi]

People who say Cooney is only a shooter don't watch 1/2 the game or understand his role on the team. Dude is also a pesky defender who draws lots of attention on the offensive end. Matt Roe was a streaky shooter and a complete liability on the defensive end. When Cooney's not on the court that attention goes to other players. Face it even on an off shooting night you have to get a hand in his face and defend the whole court as he has proven this year he can get hot quickly. Silent G doesn't demand that kind of attention because he is not as good a shooter as Cooney. This is a fact.

I love Cooney and how he contributes in a wide variety of ways. He did today. But his main role on this team is outside shooting; it's not rebounding or passing, that's for sure, though he gets some rebounds and makes some good passes. His primary job is to shoot from the outside. He sucked at doing that today. I know that is not going to be the case most games and that makes me happy.

 

[NKR1978]

I can't think of any off the top of my head especially while we are winning games which is strange. Scoop was pretty polarizing as a Junior as I recall.

How could I forget about Sccop. And Triche for four years. Never mind, the premise of my post was wrong. We always have a whipping boy.

 

[Statesman1]

Has any player been held up to the standard TC is? Devendorf wasn't half the defensive player Cooney is and he had plenty of poor shooting games yet he was almost always given a pass for a poor on court performance. Cooney plays great D, he's generally very careful with the ball and makes good decisions. He's having a really solid season and will continue to do so regardless whether he has a poor shooting night.

Good point. Gmac was a streaky shooter too and his defense was adequate, at best. Cooney is our best and only outside threat and deserves credit for sitting out a year and riding the pine last year waiting his turn. I'd like him to be 40% at least every game but that isn't realistic for any player- let alone one playing in a top conference like the ACC.

 

[Statesman1]

I love Cooney and low he contributes in a wide variety of ways. He did today. But his main role on this team is outside shooting; it's not rebounding or passing, that's for sure, though he gets some rebounds and makes some good passes. His primary job is to shoot from the outside. He sucked at doing that today. I know that is not going to be the case most games and that makes me happy.

You're getting closer to the truth- shooting is his primary offensive role. He's a pretty key defensive player and deserves a ton of credit for how disruptive he is on d. The best thing for Cooney's shooting is for anybody else to emerge as a threat from 3 and share the burden.