Coverage Was Disappointing ?

[elimunelson]

We don't need a CHB-level scumbag reporter around.

When reporters are tossing you softballs and you can't answer there's already a huge issue.

Dan isn’t a scumbag he’s an opinion writer. People hate the writer when the opinion isn’t to their liking

Syracuse Pravda doesn’t have this issue.

 

[elimunelson]

As an aside...

Not sure if all the players like Red or not, but I found it interesting that Eddie's Mom said he absolutely loves it at Cuse and wishes they had found Cuse before his senior season (i.e. he was not happy at TCU or Colorado.)

That’s great. Zero expectations, no media on their back and a coach who is out to lunch

Eddie got paid in a low pressure environment. It’s like he went to work for a dot com in 1999 that is going to fail

 

[Scooch]

Dan isn’t a scumbag he’s an opinion writer. People hate the writer when the opinion isn’t to their liking

Syracuse Pravda doesn’t have this issue.

Shag is awful. Awful. He's lazy and racist.

People used to compare Axe to Shag, and now Axe is basically the only guy in Syracuse media who's willing to ask even the most moderately uncomfortable questions.

Shag is an irrelevant bore.

 

[jdubs30]

I'm hoping they hire a Director of Player Development or something. Perhaps Devendorf and he gets a number two who wants to be in coaching. Perhaps a Brandon Triche.

Yes let’s keep hiring people around him in hopes and it gets better

 

[NKR1978]

I'm hoping they hire a Director of Player Development or something. Perhaps Devendorf and he gets a number two who wants to be in coaching. Perhaps a Brandon Triche.

You know there are a ton of people in coaching that didn't play at Syracuse University. Given the "Syracuse Way" doesn't quite work any more, maybe looking for guys who have experience at successful top flight programs, which we are not, would be good.

This isn't a knock anyone, I just want to move away from what has proven to no longer work.

 

[Orangefizz]

The problem is, he WASN'T good enough. He was unproven, and a huge gamble for a program teetering on the precipice and in real danger of backsliding even further.

At a point in time when our program had just undergone a steep dip in performance, on the tail end of what was then an 8-year decline.

It wasn't the time to turn things over to someone without a proven track record, nor for a continuity hire. The goal should not have been to maintain, it should have been to change the trajectory of the program.

If Autry was foisted on JW, then I blame the BoT more than Wildhack, but it was still a poor choice. Politics be damned, AD's are judged by outcomes, not just coaches. Forcing JB to step down was the hard part. JW had already taken the hardest step, all he needed to do was rip off the band aid, and instead the University chose the path of least resistance.

And because of that, we have 11,000 fans at games now, with season ticket sales likely to plummet even more next year, with the associated revenue impacts to ensue. It is going to be a big 60 days.

An outstanding post. I agree 100%

 

[littlereg]

The problem is, he WASN'T good enough. He was unproven, and a huge gamble for a program teetering on the precipice and in real danger of backsliding even further.

At a point in time when our program had just undergone a steep dip in performance, on the tail end of what was then an 8-year decline.

It wasn't the time to turn things over to someone without a proven track record, nor for a continuity hire. The goal should not have been to maintain, it should have been to change the trajectory of the program.

If Autry was foisted on JW, then I blame the BoT more than Wildhack, but it was still a poor choice. Politics be damned, AD's are judged by outcomes, not just coaches. Forcing JB to step down was the hard part. JW had already taken the hardest step, all he needed to do was rip off the band aid, and instead the University chose the path of least resistance.

And because of that, we have 11,000 fans at games now, with season ticket sales likely to plummet even more next year, with the associated revenue impacts to ensue. It is going to be a big 60 days.

THANK YOU. The bubblewrapping and babying of the people in charge has been insane.

 

[OrlandoCuse]

And people had also been saying that Gerry was JB's preferred successor.

I can see some folks rationalizing keeping Red for another year knowing he will ultimately fail but hoping GMac has a 20+ win season at Siena next year so they justify hiring him as the replacement.

FWIW, I am not advocating for GMac as the next coach. It’s this Syracuse alum loyalist issue that makes me think that’s a real possibility.

 

[kingtidge]

That’s great. Zero expectations, no media on their back and a coach who is out to lunch

Eddie got paid in a low pressure environment. It’s like he went to work for a dot com in 1999 that is going to fail

That's certainly one way to frame it.

 

[RF2044]

I can see some folks rationalizing keeping Red for another year knowing he will ultimately fail but hoping GMac has a 20+ win season at Siena next year so they justify hiring him as the replacement.

FWIW, I am not advocating for GMac as the next coach. It’s this Syracuse alum loyalist issue that makes me think that’s a real possibility.

Nothing against GMac [although I hope he ISN'T who we focus on if we move on from Autry], but I hope that if a change is made in the next year that we sever ties with the Boeheim tree and get on with moving on instead of clinging to the past.

I would have ZERO issue with GMac being in contention for the job at some point down the road, if he continues to coach and builds a track record of sustained success.

But to hire him back after two years at Siena [again, just playing out the hypothetical scenario that Autry is out after 1 more season] would be wild.

And probably insane.

And speak volumes about the athletic department's commitment [or lack thereof] to having SU strive to be an elite program again.

 

[PauliePeppas]

He didn’t decline entirely; he said not right now. I think there’s a difference in that he could still make it right.

When is his next speaking engagement? Or post a video on social media.

It’d be so easy to follow up and answer the question, but I think he has to do that ASAP. I could understand it was right after a loss, he wasn’t thinking about next year, whatever spin he wants to put on it. Then answer the question with a spirited answer to officially close this season and look ahead to the portal and next year.

They can’t be that dumb that they don’t see they need to give fans something to be excited about sooner than later, can they?

Yes. Yes they are.

 

[cusefan88]

You know there are a ton of people in coaching that didn't play at Syracuse University. Given the "Syracuse Way" doesn't quite work any more, maybe looking for guys who have experience at successful top flight programs, which we are not, would be good.

This isn't a knock anyone, I just want to move away from what has proven to no longer work.

I 100% agree for assistant coaches. I do think having an alum around who was successful in a non-coaching role is valuable.

Ultimately they should hire the best people if possible.

 

[Irishsecra1]

I can see some folks rationalizing keeping Red for another year knowing he will ultimately fail but hoping GMac has a 20+ win season at Siena next year so they justify hiring him as the replacement.

FWIW, I am not advocating for GMac as the next coach. It’s this Syracuse alum loyalist issue that makes me think that’s a real possibility.

No one would like GMAC to be our head coach one day more than me.
But the time was when JB left, not now when Red has put the program in free fall.
Let GMAC improve his coaching at Siena and maybe get back to the NCAAT.
If he improves as I believe he will, maybe he can come back in 5 years or so.
Assuming we still need a head coach by then.

 

[kingtidge]

Nothing against GMac [although I hope he ISN'T who we focus on if we move on from Autry], but I hope that if a change is made in the next year that we sever ties with the Boeheim tree and get on with moving on instead of clinging to the past.

I would have ZERO issue with GMac being in contention for the job at some point down the road, if he continues to coach and builds a track record of sustained success.

But to hire him back after two years at Siena [again, just playing out the hypothetical scenario that Autry is out after 1 more season] would be wild.

And probably insane.

And speak volumes about the athletic department's commitment [or lack thereof] to having SU strive to be an elite program again.

Yeah, I agree.

Gmac is one for future consideration, if he can put together few more years of successful work as a HC.

Now it may well be that JAB will wrangle his donors and BOT chums and try and force Gmac in as the next coach. I could see him thinking that is within his purview.

Hopefully he won't do that and/or it will be kaboshed if attempted.

We need a national search and hire.

 

[bnoro]

Dan isn’t a scumbag he’s an opinion writer. People hate the writer when the opinion isn’t to their liking

Syracuse Pravda doesn’t have this issue.

You might be the first person I've EVER seen defend CHB.

 

[Scooch]

I'm hoping they hire a Director of Player Development or something. Perhaps Devendorf and he gets a number two who wants to be in coaching. Perhaps a Brandon Triche.

Ummmm, isn’t that precisely what a head coach and his staff are in charge of?!

 

[cusefan88]

Ummmm, isn’t that precisely what a head coach and his staff are in charge of?!

Sure, but Syracuse is being lapped in support staff size and that is another way to get more coaching to the players.

 

[NKR1978]

No one would like GMAC to be our head coach one day more than me.
But the time was when JB left, not now when Red has put the program in free fall.
Let GMAC improve his coaching at Siena and maybe get back to the NCAAT.
If he improves as I believe he will, maybe he can come back in 5 years or so.
Assuming we still need a head coach by then.

I would not be happy with Gerry. I think we need someone with more bonafides at a high level. But if he is the choice then we have to support him. I think we'd be better off now if he was hired instead.

 

[ar inj]

Yes. This really isn't hard to figure out. JW doesn't think Autry got all the support he needed last offseason. That's why they hired Kline to run scouting. That's why they've (reportedly) beefed up NIL. That's why they've opted in to the House revenue sharing parameters.

Now, we can disagree with JW's assessment. We can lay the blame much more squarely at Red's feet for being utterly unprepared to acquire players via the portal, and for being negligent in carrying out his fundraising duties.

But if Kiyan went to USC Autry would still be getting a 3rd year. It's plain as day.

SU opting into the House settlement is football driven because the admin knows that is what drives the bus.

 

[gmoney44]

LMAO.

Have you ever worked for a corporation?

Yup. A very high up Fortune 500 company as a matter of fact. No one in middle management or higher survived anything close to what the clown show at SU has done.

 

[tptcuse]

Yes. This really isn't hard to figure out. JW doesn't think Autry got all the support he needed last offseason. That's why they hired Kline to run scouting. That's why they've (reportedly) beefed up NIL. That's why they've opted in to the House revenue sharing parameters.

Now, we can disagree with JW's assessment. We can lay the blame much more squarely at Red's feet for being utterly unprepared to acquire players via the portal, and for being negligent in carrying out his fundraising duties.

But if Kiyan went to USC Autry would still be getting a 3rd year. It's plain as day.

But what about the treadmills?

 

[Scooch]

But what about the treadmills?

I'll take stories I still don't entirely believe for $200, Alex.

 

[Scooch]

SU opting into the House settlement is football driven because the admin knows that is what drives the bus.

OK. They're still going to allocate 20%+ of that to men's hoops.

 

[Scooch]

Yup. A very high up Fortune 500 company as a matter of fact. No one in middle management or higher survived anything close to what the clown show at SU has done.

OK. That must be the most high-functioning Fortune 500 of all time.

 

[Nicknack]

If the Anthonys are dumping money into the program their son will be getting minutes.

Ya think? The point was that money cant upgrade red's coaching decisions.