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djorange1989
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Another reason to schedule cupcakes early on. take out MD and ND and replace them with UMass and Florida International. We would be 4-1, and while that would be a BS 4-1, the crowd this weekend would be huge and we would still have a pretty decent shot at a bowl game. Instead we have to pretend we don't suck and try to man up by playing multiple games against Power 5 teams every year. Maryland isn't exactly a juggernaut, but they aren't UMass or FIU either. Look at our record against Power 5 OOC teams since Marrone took over (GROB doesn't count). it's pathetically poor and we need to go the Rutgers/Duke route until we are decent again. With that rant over, I say 44,000 announced this weekend.
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Bees is in charge of the alumni ticket outreach program.
HeaterCuse22
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How about fort drum, have they been invited given tickets. That should be a standing order. How about donate some to the Komen agency for BCA this month. (give them all PINK SU shirts) good press to cancel out the bad mojo.
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Just more and more excuses. We make fun of Rutgers for rushing the field after beating a weak Michigan team, yet we can't even sell out (or even come close) for the #1 team in the country, and the DEFENDING NATIONAL CHAMPION.
And don't give me the "the product on the field stinks" excuse. Big changes were just made. If anything, this is when the team needs the fanbase the most.
Pathetic.
And don't give me the "the product on the field stinks" excuse. Big changes were just made. If anything, this is when the team needs the fanbase the most.
Pathetic.
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So it's pathetic that there are fewer fans when we play worse?? Funny, those fans logic just makes too much sense (and don't that's an SU thing… that's everywhere)
Somewhat knowledgeable football fans still see 4-1 as a good thing and 2-3 as bad even while knowing full well the schedules are completely different. If you have an average team and play above average teams the numbers will slide to having an under 500 record, it really isn't rocket science. Fans show up for 4-1 and stay home for 2-3 but hey...keep doing the same thing over and over again and expect different results, it really seems like it is working.
Playing these tough OOC schedules gets you beat up, lose more games, decrease depth and not be able to develop depth. As long as SU is in the same division as FSU, Clemson and Louisville, the best we can hope for is 7-5. It's not just the offense that shoots itself in the foot here.
Playing these tough OOC schedules gets you beat up, lose more games, decrease depth and not be able to develop depth. As long as SU is in the same division as FSU, Clemson and Louisville, the best we can hope for is 7-5. It's not just the offense that shoots itself in the foot here.
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"But if you put USC, PSU, ND etc in the Dome it will sell out!" This weekend just proves that it simply isn't true. Anyone that complains that SU has moved premium home games away from the Dome to MetLife that doesn't show up this weekend, please turn in your fan card.
If they play good football, fans think it is a good thing.
True but losing even when playing well will keep the numbers at 40K and below. The average fan really does not know what playing well is.
Maybe but playing well and losing to a good team is better than playing like crap and losing. It gives fans hope for future games. Note, I am not talking fair weather fans because they don't really care about the future.
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that really tells us a lot.
winning may not be the cure, cnyers just dont like football.
when the royals were pathetically getting 10k for a saturday night game in july for years, theyd get 50k on a tueday in mid-may when the Yankees rolled in.
granted winston is not a tebow (nobody will ever be) but still...
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Most people around the area are not invested nor do they care about our football team. Just accept it. Does it suck? Yeah, but it's reality.
Not only that, we've done nothing this year to prove to them, the casual fans, the ones who don't post on SYRACUSEFAN.COM, that anything will change. LOOK AT OUR HOME GAMES SO FAR.
Not only that, we've done nothing this year to prove to them, the casual fans, the ones who don't post on SYRACUSEFAN.COM, that anything will change. LOOK AT OUR HOME GAMES SO FAR.
Not sure how you conclude "winning may not be the cure, cnyers just dont like football"
When this program got to a point where people expected them to win most games and knew they had a chance in all games, average attendance was much higher than now. See the late 80s and 90s.
1985 38,563
1986 34,534
1987 44,490
1988 46,081
1989 48,885
1990 47,022
1991 43,444
1992 49,318
1993 48,092
1994 47,746
1995 43,276
1996 48,177
1997 45,865
1998 47,898
1999 46,741
Back to fair weather fans. They don't show because we are playing a #1 team. They show in fair weather.
PS: I agree these are not "football fans"
SWC posted an interesting stat regarding how poor the 87 SOS schedule was and look how that turned out. They really didn't beat anyone that good and an average PSU came into town when SU was undefeated and look how that went.
They won (or dare I say or tied) every game that year including crushing PSU. I agree, the fair weathers didn't really care too much about SOS...but SU had a good and exciting team that year. And even in '87, there was a lag in attendance. '87 paid attendance dividends over the next 2-3 years. It takes a while for the fair weather fans to become affiliated because they want to wait until they know it is "safe".
PS: the SOS that year is why they would never have been voted #1 even if they beat Auburn.
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