Orangefizz
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Dont see Melvin Council from St Bona on the list
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Doc5120
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I believe that is the target demographic for every center we bring in.
EnviroSciGuy
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Oh, the excuses are already being prepared.
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PGs will be the most sought after position in the portal. Thats going to be a lot of big boy money
This I’m sure suggests we are interested here. Besides stalking followers list and run ins outside the basketball facility in Syracuse. Staff is doing a great job locking in and trying to make deals happen instead of conversing with reporters before things are set.
Are we not talking to Claude any more?
cusefan88
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Tre Donaldson would be a nice get.
Melancer46
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Oh I left the dot connecting portion off my table when I converted it over lol. Will add that back in.
He just committed to UCONN
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He’s gone 8-27 in the two postseason games in Vegas. And cannot shoot at all. Hard pass. Need triple threat guys, especially with JJ’s inefficiency. We will have one shooter in the game to start at this point, with Freeman being the second best shooter in the starting lineup. Need better.
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Agreed. He has a worse career 3 point percentage than JJ at 27%. Imagine those two as your starting Division 1 Power 5 conference backcourt….yikes. Teams would just sag off them, pack the paint and dare them to shoot.
The unfortunate reality is we are an underperforming program that will have to overspend to attract quality players. It's tough to swallow given our overall history, but results over last 10 years has relegated us to a mid level destination. Success breeds success in today's environment. We can begin to turn it around, but it won't be easy.
These takes are the worst. It costs us the same amount for a player as it costs UConn or St John’s or whoever. Thats what the market value of the player. Sometimes we don’t have the money but it’s not a matter of overspending because our jersey is Orange.
Players are not taking NIL paycuts to play for teams they think will be in a final 4. Even if the money were even between 2 teams then it would come to what team has more playing time to offer not the perceived success of a program. Maybe a distant 3rd if they like the program or coach or school.
If it were all about success why would half the UConn team already know they were going to the portal before the season was over or why are the rosters on the highly seeded tourney teams leaving.
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Plays defense about as well as JJ too.
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You’re very wrong here.
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Claude shot 48% from the field last season. I say that is pretty efficient. His percentage from three isn't great, but he also doesn't take many 3s. He can go get you 30 on some nights too. If you want to get to the tournament a win, you need guards who can score. Claude also averaged 4.2 assist per game. Not a true point guard but he can distribute.
The George kid from GT shot under 40% from the field last year. Better percentage from three (~34%, which isn't amazing) obviously than Claude, but overall hardly efficient overall.
The George kid from GT shot under 40% from the field last year. Better percentage from three (~34%, which isn't amazing) obviously than Claude, but overall hardly efficient overall.
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Agreed. NIL money is a factor (and a large one), but the ultimate goal of a lot of these guys is twofold:
1.) Make it to the league
2.) Enhance their personal brand
All the money in the world thrown at them still doesn't guarantee either of these things, and there are a lot of other factors that contribute to them, such as comfortability (the right system and the right coaches), available minutes, exposure, etc. etc. Every guy out there isn't just taking the biggest bag and that's that. You gotta be competitive with the money, but you have to offer more than just that.
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Claude - 11.1 shots per game for 15.8 PPG this year, which is pretty decent efficiency and George was 11.1 shots per game for 12.3 PPG, which is JJ-level efficiency.
George did have a better Assist/Turnover Ratio when compared to Claude.
Defense is nothing to write home about for either.
So Claude seems like the better scorer, and George seems like the better distributor.
Claude 30.7% from 3 this year scares me.
George 39.3% from the field is a big red flag as well.
Neither of them are perfect players, and picking a side is just like picking your preference.
Claude’s eFG% is 51% and George’s is 47%. Claude is more efficient; both are near middle-of-the-road efficiency.
Where Claude shines is using his size to get to the rim and draw fouls. He’s good at the line. George is equally good at the line but gets there about a third as often as Claude.
Claude can’t shoot 3’s and doesn’t play like a PG, at least not on paper. He looks like a non-shooting SG. The assist numbers are just okay and the turnovers are high (close to a 1:1 ratio).
George is smaller (but not small) and doesn’t do as much work near the rim, but can shoot passably behind the arc, enough to be a guy you can’t just leave alone out there. He appears to be more of a PG than Claude, with good assist numbers and closer to a 2:1 ratio with turnovers.
I don’t know what the staff’s intentions are with roster construction and play style. Claude worries me because the team is not projected to be good from 3. He doesn’t help there and doesn’t seem like a guy who gets the ball to shooters often. I haven’t watched his games, though, so maybe he has a drive and kick ability that will work for us. George seems like the more prototypical PG.
I know absolutely nothing about how either play defense. Defensive efficiency stats are close to worthless. That could be a big factor.
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The turnovers for Claude are a problem and so is his defense. George is also younger with a higher ceiling IMO.
Just for laughs can you name one example where we offered a player more money than the competition and they turned us down because they want to play for a Sweet 16 team or a program that is winning more recently?
And don’t give me some crap about 5 years ago before there was a portal or NIL.
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Hurley got McNeeley over Indiana for this exact reason. Indiana had more money than anyone last year.
This kid was a freshman not in the portal.
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How is that any different? Pretty sure they got Demary for the same reason. Georgia could have likely paid more.