Cuse in the 2019 Draft...

[PhatOrange]

Dungey's gonna have heisman talk this year. ;-)

 

[sufandu]

Dungey's gonna have heisman talk this year. ;-)

I could see a situation like Jason White.

 

[TheCusian]

To sneak into the draft, Dungey would have to:

- Complete the season with 7+ wins
- Complete over 65% of his passes
- Read defenses better

The plus side is that the NFL is finally coming around to the RPO's and some of the concepts he's learned under Babers.

 

[reedny]

To sneak into the draft, Dungey would have to:

- Complete the season with 7+ wins
- Complete over 65% of his passes
- Read defenses better

The plus side is that the NFL is finally coming around to the RPO's and some of the concepts he's learned under Babers.

Sure, there are some RPO quarterbacks still alive. Michael Vic was the protoype, and currently Russell Wilson is playing that roll extremely well and cheating death and serious injury. But there are (precious) few others that have survived. I think RGIII was considered an RPO-style QB before they shredded his knees. Tyrod wants to be an RPO but has lasted because he listened to coaches and cut down his scrambling. So it's hard imagining Dungey, who's been injured every season, trying to be an RPO guy for any stretch of time in a league with assassins all over the field. He's very athletic. But he has to show more FB IQ and arm strength to put himself in a draft discussion.

 

[leftytg]

If people can get this worked up over Dungey's NFL potential (which is non-existent), people are going to absolutely lose their minds once Devito takes over.

Dungey will always go down as a beloved player in Syracuse history. His guts and toughness are legendary. But his perception within the fanbase is skewed because he is the beneficiary of 1) a radically different system that inflates offensive numbers relative to Syracuse history and 2) a long run of staggeringly bad QB at the school (including terrible depth behind him). Dungey is a nice enough college QB - which is an impressive achievement in its own right (most recruited QB's don't see meaningful snaps). But he lacks above average arm strength, which can be made up for with anticipation and accuracy, but he isn't very accurate and he doesn't anticipate well because he is always looking to bail and run. He's a good runner, but his tendency to bail - even when the line is holding up - makes him easier to defend.

Getting a strong armed and accurate guy like Devito in there is going to truly be a sight to behold.

 

[SoBeCuse]

If people can get this worked up over Dungey's NFL potential (which is non-existent), people are going to absolutely lose their minds once Devito takes over.

Dungey will always go down as a beloved player in Syracuse history. His guts and toughness are legendary. But his perception within the fanbase is skewed because he is the beneficiary of 1) a radically different system that inflates offensive numbers relative to Syracuse history and 2) a long run of staggeringly bad QB at the school (including terrible depth behind him). Dungey is a nice enough college QB - which is an impressive achievement in its own right (most recruited QB's don't see meaningful snaps). But he lacks above average arm strength, which can be made up for with anticipation and accuracy, but he isn't very accurate and he doesn't anticipate well because he is always looking to bail and run. He's a good runner, but his tendency to bail - even when the line is holding up - makes him easier to defend.

Getting a strong armed and accurate guy like Devito in there is going to truly be a sight to behold.

Solid. Yeah, Dungey also has big time injury red flags. He’s a warrior for sure but really green in terms of an NFL caliber QB.

 

[Crusty]

Why not fellas if ED plays a full season? Slayton will be in the top 2 rounds.

First ability is availability.
ED is simply not available.

 

[Ish88888]

First ability is availability.
ED is simply not available.

Well thats a great attitude . He is available right now and will be better off this year behind this Oline and some more maturity and smarts. TD will have his 3 years.

 

[All4SU]

If people can get this worked up over Dungey's NFL potential (which is non-existent), people are going to absolutely lose their minds once Devito takes over.

Dungey will always go down as a beloved player in Syracuse history. His guts and toughness are legendary. But his perception within the fanbase is skewed because he is the beneficiary of 1) a radically different system that inflates offensive numbers relative to Syracuse history

Except his potential was first demonstrated as a freshman playing for Schafer.

 

[Crusty]

Well thats a great attitude . He is available right now and will be better off this year behind this Oline and some more maturity and smarts. TD will have his 3 years.

It is just fact. Which is one reason players like ED don't draw much interest from the NFL. We love him because he is fearless, but he is also reckless. Tough to invest in that.

 

[elimunelson]

To sneak into the draft, Dungey would have to:

- Complete the season with 7+ wins
- Complete over 65% of his passes
- Read defenses better

The plus side is that the NFL is finally coming around to the RPO's and some of the concepts he's learned under Babers.

I think he has the skills to get there but Cusian nails it better than I can above. Josh Allen was the consolation prize at Wyoming when Dungey went to Syracuse.

Dungey is a leader and NFL teams love that if you can make the throws.

 

[SoBeCuse]

The talent upgrades here hopefully will be evident in the upcoming season and near future. All these Louisville, NC St, BC, etc., guys being drafted is telling.

 

[Chip]

As there will be two more pro football leagues drafting next year, I'll elevate the Dungey 1st round possibility as only crazy.

I hadn’t thought of this scenario. I will walk back my initial laughter as well. Sorry kidneys, damage is already done.

 

[DMDMD]

If this Richmond quarterback can get drafted, its not out of the question for Dungey with a healthy senior year. That guy's highlights are all ducks.

 

[Trueblue25]

If this Richmond quarterback can get drafted, its not out of the question for Dungey with a healthy senior year. That guy's highlights are all ducks.

We dont know because Dungey hasnt stayed healthy

 

[Shrmdougluvr]

If this Richmond quarterback can get drafted, its not out of the question for Dungey with a healthy senior year. That guy's highlights are all ducks.

I dunno. He was better than maybe four of the starting qb's we played against last year. That doesnt cry out NFL ability to me. (In case you were wondering, I have him as better than the starters we faced at CCSU, Pitt, FSU, and BC). The kids at CMichy, LSU, Miami, NC State, and Clemson had more arm talent. The kids at MTSU and Wake had better all-around games. And Lamar Jackson.

 

[orangepassion]

To those chalking up Dungey's success to Babers Offense, he was a darn good as a True Freshman before Babers ever sniffed the Dome.

 

[gbo]

Uhh...

 

[rrlbees]

If he stays healthy, Dungey will get drafted.

 

[orangenauburn]

I'd expect 19 to be similar to the past couple of drafts

Dungeys past health is going to hurt his stock no matter how great he plays. He also needs to have a passing accuracy in the upper 60's, probably low 70's to help out.

Pierce will be drafted probably 3-4 round at worst

Slayton probably goes 4-5 at worst. With a season we hope he has he could jump to the 2-3 range

Custis - no
Frederick - no
Whitner - no
Perkins - no
Guthrie - no
Roberts - no
Conway - maybe 7th

As of now 2020 is not too much better, maybe a couple of guys projecting as mid rounders

 

[RMH44]

I'd expect 19 to be similar to the past couple of drafts

Dungeys past health is going to hurt his stock no matter how great he plays. He also needs to have a passing accuracy in the upper 60's, probably low 70's to help out.

Pierce will be drafted probably 3-4 round at worst

Slayton probably goes 4-5 at worst. With a season we hope he has he could jump to the 2-3 range

Custis - no
Frederick - no
Whitner - no
Perkins - no
Guthrie - no
Roberts - no
Conway - maybe 7th

As of now 2020 is not too much better, maybe a couple of guys projecting as mid rounders

I think Conway goes earlier than the 7th round especially if he stays at LT. Staying at LT (probably)means that he beat out Koda Martin for the spot. We need to remember that Martin was preseason 2nd team all SEC and, barring injury, will definitely go within the first 4 rounds.

We've all been waiting for Custis to become an impact player. Physically he is a very gifted athlete. One of the fastest players on the team with off the charts size and strength at WR. If he can find a way to catch the ball consistently and put up some decent numbers (50-plus catches) this year he'll get drafted simply on potential and his combine numbers.

 

[Alsacs]

I thought before last year he was an NFL prospect at QB but he isn’t.
He doesn’t read defenses well and when his first read is covered he scrambles. That works in college where the speed isn’t the same as the NFL.
Dungey’s pro position would be H-back/TE.
His athleticism would play there and he could be a Trey Burton type player.
Dungey is a poor man’s Tebow in college football.
Tebow wouldn’t play H-back in the pros I don’t think Dungey would have the same problem.

 

[HOFCeluck]

I thought before last year he was an NFL prospect at QB but he isn’t.
He doesn’t read defenses well and when his first read is covered he scrambles. That works in college where the speed isn’t the same as the NFL.
Dungey’s pro position would be H-back/TE.
His athleticism would play there and he could be a Trey Burton type player.
Dungey is a poor man’s Tebow in college football.
Tebow wouldn’t play H-back in the pros I don’t think Dungey would have the same problem.

Yeah so much of being an NFL QB is what’s going on from the neck up.

And that doesn’t even touch upon being able to play a whole 12 game season. Let alone a sixteen game season.

 

[Rocco]

If people can get this worked up over Dungey's NFL potential (which is non-existent), people are going to absolutely lose their minds once Devito takes over.

Getting a strong armed and accurate guy like Devito in there is going to truly be a sight to behold.

Running the risk of being trolled at this post, I still find it absolutely mystifying that people are so enamored with Devito, yet simply dismiss Dungey as having any ability at all. This is college football; Dungey is a very, very good college football player.

Does Dungey lack elite arm strength and accuracy? Yep. Does Devito have elite arm strength and accuracy? We hear that he does and have even *seen film*, but nothing in a game yet.

Does Dungey lack an elite ability to read opposing defenses? Yep. Can Devito visually pick apart opposing D's? We hear that he can, but again, nothing in a game yet.

Dungey also has an innate, unteachable ability to make plays with his feet and get creative when things break down. He has a boatload of athleticism and we've seen it on display countless times. Sure, he might take off early more often than we would like to see, but it's not like he's been playing with an army of above-average players either. His line play has been suspect and we lack any semblance of a run game. Without Dungey, we wouldn't have had a prayer in any of those big wins the last 2 years. Do not kid yourself. Hard to see Devito being this effective when things break down, but time will tell.

I hope that Dungey plays 14 games this year. We should all hope that he does. I also hope that Devito will be ready to live up to his lofty expectations when his time is called. I have blind faith that Devito will be pretty good, but we should also be happy that we've got Dungey for another year.

And for the record, I would be shocked if Dungey ever plays on Sundays. Regardless of his impressive ability as a healthy college football player, he just simply doesn't translate well to the next level. I hope I'm wrong.

 

[GoSU96]

This stuff should stop. Dungey is not an NFL quarterback