OrangeXtreme
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D1 Tournament Expansion?
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I like that it's a great idea. To many good teams get left out. Teams like Duke and ND last yr who could have gotten hot during the tournament and made it to championship wknd. Can't say they might have won the championship because no one was beating Maryland but still. When u give AQs u have weaker teams making it from weaker divisions so top ranked teams can miss out. Their will be 76 D 1 teams so 25% should definitely make it. A no brainer.
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I’d like to see D2 expand.
SkyTopBus44
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They should keep it where it is and get rid of ther conference automatic qualifers
this is done across all sports, so that will never happen. you may be aware of this.
i like the aqs. gives lots of teams the opportunity to be in the dance. the cutline as it is leaves some pretty good teams out. result of a small sport, with even smaller conferences (as little as 6) getting an aq. if this goes thru, by my calculations the at larges move up from 8 to 11. so if you don't have an aq to win or u didn't win it, your odds just went up 38%.
Yeah I like the AQ's for that reason to so the expansion would work out great.
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I know it will never happen. One can dream
In my opinion the automatic qualifiers additions make a lot more sense in sports with larger numbers of teams that participate (basketball, baseball, etc.). Most the lacrosse teams who get the opportunity are bounced in round one and never make it to the final four. Where good teams that could get in are penalized because a weaker conference teams makes the field.
I get the incentive for these teams and the programs. It nice that they get the opportunity. Maybe more play in games for these smaller leagues and more opportunity to ensure that the best teams are in the field. So in a long way I have convinced myself of expansion HA!
well, here's more for ya. if as is, 16 at larges. with expansion, 11 at larges and at least 3 aqs will always be in the top 16. so that's 14.I know it will never happen. One can dream
In my opinion the automatic qualifiers additions make a lot more sense in sports with larger numbers of teams that participate (basketball, baseball, etc.). Most the lacrosse teams who get the opportunity are bounced in round one and never make it to the final four. Where good teams that could get in are penalized because a weaker conference teams makes the field.
I get the incentive for these teams and the programs. It nice that they get the opportunity. Maybe more play in games for these smaller leagues and more opportunity to ensure that the best teams are in the field. So in a long way I have convinced myself of expansion HA!
between, b1g, big east, ivy and patriot, that is more than likely to be 4+ most years. so 15. do you care whether it's loyola that lost in the patriot finals to army?
throw in caa, ae or a rando other conference and sometimes that number would be 16. so effectively, you get what you want and lower conferences get their cake, too.
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Mark M. Hart (fieldystick) has written an article on how best to ultimately expand the D1 tournament to 24 teams and why. And how to have it work. He's put a lot of thought in it and if you're interested in the subject it is worth a read.
love that mark/fieldy puts the amount of time and acumen into the tourney selections this time of year. and gives a window on how he thinks things will break. have had numerous discussions with him.
the tourn will not expand to 24 teams anytime soon. however, the proposal referenced in the top of the thread in oct '22 passed in jan '23. it was part of a very large reform package the nc$$ is enacting in a desperate? attempt to stop backsliding on court losses, player vs nc$$ conflicts, conference grabs and possible breakaways.
long story short, what was approved was for sports with >200 programs, a push for nc$$ tourn to move toward 25% nc$$ tourney participation. also approved was single-sport committees to decentralize rule making on things like this (and many other items i.e. scholly limits).
so lax is <200 teams, of course. but it's easy to see how a committee can say we'd like to have that, too. and now have an accommodating nc$$ and less bureaucracy. in theory, they could also set the tourney up any way they'd like. i see 2-4 additional at larges, with some play-ins, inside of 2 years. the tourn expansion votes for the >200 sports is up in june 2024.
