Darrell Gill Jr. transferring to Ole Miss

[Cuse2023]

Fran meets with Gill and asks him to come back. Gill loves Syracuse and wants to return for his senior year.

Gill speaks with Fran again, asking about how to better prepare for the NFL.

Fran starts saying terrible things about Gill to his face and to his agent?

I mean, c’mon, people. Please think through that for a second. That makes absolutely no sense. You need to understand where this narrative is being pushed from. Understand that you are only hearing one side of this “story” before you make assumptions about HCFB.

 

[bigmike]

Can we get back to the idea of nuking this thread?

 

[llandz]

I think you are very dangerous and you share biased statements without full knowledge on a message board. I do not expect humility from you either but I trust for it. At this age, without full knowledge creates prejudice especially to a less than objective audience potentially. Then you talk about healing, like wow

I’ve removed all of my posts and asked the mods to do the same. I was asked over and over for the story and never should have told it. I’m not going to defend if I have knowledge but I should know better to give inside information. I never expected the explanation I gave to blow up. I won’t be posting anymore so no one has to worry about me. I’m gone.

 

[baggerbob]

I’ve removed all of my posts and asked the mods to do the same. I was asked over and over for the story and never should have told it. I’m not going to defend if I have knowledge but I should know better to give inside information. I never expected the explanation I gave to blow up. I won’t be posting anymore so no one has to worry about me. I’m gone.

It's just time to wish the young man well an d lock this thread.

 

[whobut03]

This doesn't belong on a public forum. Nuke this thread.

I'm all for sharing info etc... but at some point there is a red line. And that is, if it's private conversations between players/coaches and agents, it should stay there. This does nothing to help Syracuse Football.

Waiting for Brent Axe or Javon to pick this up in a few hours.

 

[sufan59]

Fran meets with Gill and asks him to come back. Gill loves Syracuse and wants to return for his senior year.

Gill speaks with Fran again, asking about how to better prepare for the NFL.

Fran starts saying terrible things about Gill to his face and to his agent?

I mean, c’mon, people. Please think through that for a second. That makes absolutely no sense. You need to understand where this narrative is being pushed from. Understand that you are only hearing one side of this “story” before you make assumptions about HCFB.

In the bigger picture it all means nothing. Those who don't like Fran will just continue not to like him. Those who are skeptical about Fran will continue to be skeptical. Those who trust Fran will continue to trust Fran. If this is really a Coach Q situation, I'm sure there is reporting mechanisms, an investigation will happen, and if they determine wrongdoing crossing a line, disciplinary action will be taken. Gill sounds like a great young man and football player and seems set up for success at his next destination. From the Syracuse standpoint, it's clear he was not at the top of the priority list to retain and you know what, it makes sense to me, it doesn't change anything about the football player Gill is and can be which eventually is the National Football League. If he was, the resources would've been allocated for him to stay and I think better care would've been taken to maintain the relationship. It's pretty common where someone won't explicitly ask you to leave, but actions are taken to indirectly push you out.

 

[MGraves5]

This doesn't belong on a public forum. Nuke this thread.

I'm all for sharing info etc... but at some point there is a red line. And that is, if it's private conversations between players/coaches and agents, it should stay there. This does nothing to help Syracuse Football.

Waiting for Brent Axe or Javon to pick this up in a few hours.

Haha was just thinking we'll be seeing an article by Axe soon with unnamed sources (forum posters)

 

[richmondcuse03]

If you guys have all these stories then why dont you Email Wildhack. This situation is sounding like another Coach Q Hillsman situation, and that ended with us having a lost year because we didnt fire him until that Article came out which was at the end of the Portal period...

Because rumors don’t mean stories are true. The amount of crazy things I hear beyond what’s even posted here as half is quite insane. And that has nothing to do with Gill.

All I know about the Gill situation is from November and there was more to it at least then. But I’m not trying to contradict what was told or not told in one on one settings. He’s a good kid and I hope he crushes it at ole miss since we don’t play them.

Fran can be brutally honest with players. But I’ve also seen him admit when he was wrong about guys too.

I also don’t think this is really a big deal. No locker room Is fun when you’re losing. Anyone who has played sports knows that.

 

[Blanko97]

If you guys have all these stories then why dont you Email Wildhack. This situation is sounding like another Coach Q Hillsman situation, and that ended with us having a lost year because we didnt fire him until that Article came out which was at the end of the Portal period...

I’m sure he’s well aware, these things don’t happen in a vacuum. Are they true? Who knows. But if there’s smoke there’s usually fire. If he has another losing season we will know very quick if they were true, if he wins it’s likely going to be buried. Winning cures all

 

[AAM62]

Add Tommy D’s dad and you have your team.

oh god

 

[GHLF]

I’ve removed all of my posts and asked the mods to do the same. I was asked over and over for the story and never should have told it. I’m not going to defend if I have knowledge but I should know better to give inside information. I never expected the explanation I gave to blow up. I won’t be posting anymore so no one has to worry about me. I’m gone.

So sorry as this came off as harsh however very true and this is certainly not the forum or the place honestly especially without all of the facts. Very difficult potentially. Fact and opinion without both sides of the story and a true mediator in relation to matters as such definitely do not belong here because people will run wild with this and validate potentially without all of the information and that is called prejudice and it has nothing to do with specific connotations because it could be anything. Done with this as well, Ill intentioned, uninformed Individuals would run and do with information as such. I trust certainly not your intent but that is what occurs for sure sort of where we live. Nothing but grace

 

[Blanko97]

This doesn't belong on a public forum. Nuke this thread.

I'm all for sharing info etc... but at some point there is a red line. And that is, if it's private conversations between players/coaches and agents, it should stay there. This does nothing to help Syracuse Football.

Waiting for Brent Axe or Javon to pick this up in a few hours.

Just so I can get this right…

This story, abhorrent, shouldn’t be on the thread.

But dogging a fired coach in White and claiming he abused a player, perfectly reasonable? Where were the nuking calls then when I was saying we should have some pause before throwing around the abuse word…

 

[whobut03]

Just so I can get this right…

This story, abhorrent, shouldn’t be on the thread.

But dogging a fired coach in White and claiming he abused a player, perfectly reasonable? Where were the nuking calls then when I was saying we should have some pause before throwing around the abuse word…

What man? I have no idea what you're talking about. But in your example, yeah I would say that should also should be nuked.

W.T..?

 

[Newhouser]

So sorry as this came off as harsh however very true and this is certainly not the forum or the place honestly especially without all of the facts. Very difficult potentially. Fact and opinion without both sides of the story and a true mediator in relation to matters as such definitely do not belong here because people will run wild with this and validate potentially without all of the information and that is called prejudice and it has nothing to do with specific connotations because it could be anything. Done with this as well, Ill intentioned, uninformed Individuals would run and do with information as such. I trust certainly not your intent but that is what occurs for sure sort of where we live. Nothing but grace

Fact and opinion without both sides of the story and a true mediator in relation to matters as such definitely do not belong here because people will run wild with this and validate potentially without all of the information and that is called prejudice and it has nothing to do with specific connotations because it could be anything.


Seriously this is a fan forum (consisting mostly of irrational nuts who live and die with SU Athletics) if the only thing that is posted is facts the forum would not exist. Where is the outrage on the 10,000 other comments that don't have all the information? Now you have chased a good poster and what seems to be a good fan off the site because she didn't meet your standard of what goes on a FAN FORUM. Great job keep carrying the flag of truth and justice on fan sites.

 

[AAM62]

I’ve removed all of my posts and asked the mods to do the same. I was asked over and over for the story and never should have told it. I’m not going to defend if I have knowledge but I should know better to give inside information. I never expected the explanation I gave to blow up. I won’t be posting anymore so no one has to worry about me. I’m gone.

Ok, let's not do that now. You've been on this board. You knew what would happen lol.

 

[Blanko97]

So sorry as this came off as harsh however very true and this is certainly not the forum or the place honestly especially without all of the facts. Very difficult potentially. Fact and opinion without both sides of the story and a true mediator in relation to matters as such definitely do not belong here because people will run wild with this and validate potentially without all of the information and that is called prejudice and it has nothing to do with specific connotations because it could be anything. Done with this as well, Ill intentioned, uninformed Individuals would run and do with information as such. I trust certainly not your intent but that is what occurs for sure sort of where we live. Nothing but grace

Boy would you be pissed if you read just about any other post on a fan board. We might as well just neuter the whole thing. We are only allowed to talk about the university line and nothing else. No second guessing player Evals, game decisions, or coaching choices because we only know one side of the story!

 

[007]

I think you are very dangerous and you share biased statements without full knowledge on a message board. I do not expect humility from you either but I trust for it. At this age, without full knowledge creates prejudice especially to a less than objective audience potentially. Then you talk about healing, like wow

Referring to the OP (whom I assume you don't know personally) as being "very dangerous" and then doubling down with "I do not expect humility from you either" is...ridiculous.

 

[Blanko97]

What man? I have no idea what you're talking about. But in your example, yeah I would say that should also should be nuked.

W.T..?

I’m pointing out the hypocrisy on the site. People get butt hurt if you talk bad about a “favored person” say Fran, but then people are free to run amuck and disparage players and coaches who are leaving despite only having one side of the story. You attacked her for sharing an inside story because you think it might hurt Fran’s reputation, i just assume you’ll use that same energy elsewhere so as to not allow any out going players or coaches be disparaged either.

 

[Sdot]

I’m so serious in saying this. A good % of the posters on this forum would not last more than a week on any other p4 forum. I’ve seen some crazy stuff on other schools forums.

 

[Cuse4455]

I’m sure he’s well aware, these things don’t happen in a vacuum. Are they true? Who knows. But if there’s smoke there’s usually fire. If he has another losing season we will know very quick if they were true, if he wins it’s likely going to be buried. Winning cures all

True my worry is a another poster posted that a Transfer didnt choose Syracuse because of his interaction with Fran. That happened to Coach Hillsman when we had a couple recruits on campus and the players on the team told the recruits not to come here because of Hillsman. I just dont want a similar thing to happen again...

 

[GHLF]

Fact and opinion without both sides of the story and a true mediator in relation to matters as such definitely do not belong here because people will run wild with this and validate potentially without all of the information and that is called prejudice and it has nothing to do with specific connotations because it could be anything.


Seriously this is a fan forum (consisting mostly of irrational nuts who live and die with SU Athletics) if the only thing that is posted is facts the forum would not exist. Where is the outrage on the 10,000 other comments that don't have all the information? Now you have chased a good poster and what seems to be a good fan off the site because she didn't meet your standard of what goes on a FAN FORUM. Great job keep carrying the flag of truth and justice on fan sites.

You can believe whatever you want comments such as this were made long before me and I actually stated that. I certainly can be corrected but you just accused me of running someone off exclusively. I am not interested in your drama nor do I care Tell me to be run off and I will say ok while still maintaining everything I care about as it relates to this institution and its players. You're probably a journalism drama major Maybe your title gives it away a little bit. Innuendo apart from objective fact is garbage and you can eat whatever you want and I am sure you do

 

[GHLF]

I appreciate your irrational statement, I am attempting refrain despite my passion which is very rational and based in goodness

 

[FasterCuse]

I appreciate your irrational statement, I am attempting refrain despite my passion which is very rational and based in goodness

 

[powdersmack]

Nothing but grace

Oh, the one thing you show absolutely none of?!?

 

[powdersmack]

I appreciate your irrational statement, I am attempting refrain despite my passion which is very rational and based in goodness

Have you been diagnosed yet?