Decision on Dome in 2 Years

[xc84]

http://www.syracuse.com/news/index....to_decide_chancellor_says.html#incart_m-rpt-2

 

[Full_Rebar]

I'd bet it's staying with a non-air supported roof of some sorts. Best interest of the students is keeping an on-campus venue.

 

[donniesyracuse]

I vote for option 3; not that you asked.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

Normal construction season is 3.5 months (Post-Graduation to Late August).

If you kick both LAX teams out of the Dome, move Graduation ceremonies elsewhere (NBT Stadium?), and open the Football season on the road ... you can buy an additional 3 months.

I know they can replace the Teflon in 3 months.

How much more they can get done in 3 more months is anybody's guess.

New Teflon gets us to 2040, then they can level Skytop and build all new facilities that you kiddies can pay for.

 

[kcsu]

They need to keep the dome I think we will see a new roof and expanison on one end we do not need a new stadium retrofitting the dome is the best move

 

[Killdozer]

If they upgrade the dome I hope they put on a new brick façade. That would look pretty nice.

 

[upperdeck]

Lax can play in the IPF. graduation could be done there as well . you could schedule the first couple games on the road and maybe even a bye week and get back another month, you could probably get 6 months pretty easily.

 

[KaiserUEO]

Normal construction season is 3.5 months (Post-Graduation to Late August).

If you kick both LAX teams out of the Dome, move Graduation ceremonies elsewhere (NBT Stadium?), and open the Football season on the road ... you can buy an additional 3 months.

I know they can replace the Teflon in 3 months.

How much more they can get done in 3 more months is anybody's guess.

New Teflon gets us to 2040, then they can level Skytop and build all new facilities that you kiddies can pay for.

thats the key right there.

if they give up on the land grab, my guess is a hardtop is the one they want.

got to figure even going full from april to october would be pushing it.

football would likely be totally displaced and shaka smart would likely be starting his tenure with a month or so at MSG...

 

[cuseguy]

Lax can play in the IPF. graduation could be done there as well . you could schedule the first couple games on the road and maybe even a bye week and get back another month, you could probably get 6 months pretty easily.

There's not going to be any seating in the IPF.

 

[cusefan88]

Fixed roof is definitely the best option. What's most expensive but could be awesome is if there was a feasible way to knockout the wall facing 81 and expand it into an Atrium-type area. Packers did one and it's really nice.

 

[upperdeck]

There's not going to be any seating in the IPF.

why does seating matter in the large picture?

 

[OrangeXtreme]

why does seating matter in the large picture?

How are you going to jam 4-6,000 LAX fans into the IPF during games?

 

[Whitey23]

I vote for option 3; not that you asked.

the return of poll choice.

 

[Whitey23]

new bubble, brick facade, inside spruce up, HVAC

how much could that cost?

 

[SUbear]

http://www.syracuse.com/news/index....to_decide_chancellor_says.html#incart_m-rpt-2

As to option 2, nothing built by man is permanent, longer lasting perhaps but not permanent. If a metal roof were to collapse under our sometimes heavy snow, that would truly be catastrophic.

Option 3, if this is an open air stadium okay but attendance after November 1 would suffer, and a new basketball facility would necessarily also need to be constructed. Cost of both facilities probably too big a bite.

I am glad I am not the guys deciding this, but I think 1 is the only thing that will make economic sense.

 

[SUbear]

new bubble, brick facade, inside spruce up, HVAC

how much could that cost?

HVAC will not be happening. Instalation of Carrier equip. would have been free with the original dome construction, but SU powers did not want to pay for the power and upkeep costs, can not see that this would have changed.

 

[billsin01]

I'm OK with whatever they do since I make it to one home hoops game every four years or so. However, I'd love to see the dome gone. It's dated, ugly, small, and quite often pretty boring.

 

[gmoney44]

I'm OK with whatever they do since I make it to one home hoops game every four years or so. However, I'd love to see the dome gone. It's dated, ugly, small, and quite often pretty boring.

Why bother coming every four years if it's such an awful experience. Perhaps you should choose better games to attend.

 

[sutomcat]

I'd bet it's staying with a non-air supported roof of some sorts. Best interest of the students is keeping an on-campus venue.

If you take the chancellor at his word and the students are the first consideration, he is going to select an option that features having a facility near the center of the campus. Putting it on the edge of South Campus, somewhere near downtown or in the Inner Harbor would make it a lot harder for them to attend games. I would think ease of access is by far the biggest thing students would care about regarding the location of sports facilities.

 

[xc84]

If you take the chancellor at his word and the students are the first consideration, he is going to select an option that features having a facility near the center of the campus. Putting it on the edge of South Campus, somewhere near downtown or in the Inner Harbor would make it a lot harder for them to attend games. I would think ease of access is by far the biggest thing students would care about regarding the location of sports facilities.

I think it is a lot more that that. I think he is also referring to costs and how the overall costs mesh with the primary goals of the university. I also don't think Skytop is that bad an idea. First, some students live there already. Second, SU owns land there... a lot. 3rd, its location is conducive to access from 481 with a new ramp. 4th . It could use existing Manley parking (with shuttles or walkways) + additional lots could be built. I prefer to keep it where it is but I don't think Skytop is much of a step down as it has some pros which the current site does not.

 

[kcsu]

As a Kid Archbold used to be packed. The quad was jumping and Marshal street and the varsity were always jammed. Keep the stadium on campus and re do the dome. Soft roof for the next 25 years with some upgrades and we are good to go. There is nothing like an on campus stadium cant ever replace the feeling and will never have the student support if they move it

 

[RF2044]

As a Kid Archbold used to be packed. The quad was jumping and Marshal street and the varsity were always jammed. Keep the stadium on campus and re do the dome. Soft roof for the next 25 years with some upgrades and we are good to go. There is nothing like an on campus stadium cant ever replace the feeling and will never have the student support if they move it

Great post.

 

[TheCusian]

HVAC will not be happening. Instalation of Carrier equip. would have been free with the original dome construction, but SU powers did not want to pay for the power and upkeep costs, can not see that this would have changed.

From the 80's? Technology, new leadership, different financial realities? Not saying you're wrong - but things can change the equation over time.

 

[longtimefan]

From the 80's? Technology, new leadership, different financial realities? Not saying you're wrong - but things can change the equation over time.

The point on maintenance costs is still valid.

 

[PhatOrange]

I take option 2. Hard top roof and west side expansion.

Lax could play outside at the Coyne complex, LeMoyne or OCC.