Defensive Talent

[orangepassion]

Our personnel on D is good enough and experienced enough to be an above average ACC defense IMO. The one glaring weakness is the lack of a pass-rusing DE, but that wouldn't have made any difference against GT

 

[SWC75]

over a decade patience wears thin and starts to run out

it only seems like Shafer and Bullough have been here for a decade.

 

[SWC75]

Im very disappointed in the defensive backfield, which I thought would be a great strength. We had a mix of veteran players, )Lyn, Anderson, Wilkes), and highly regarded young talent, (Eskridge, Reddish, Morgan, Whigham). it seemed like a great situaiotn. I think part of it is injuries to Lyn and Reddish, part of it is that a couple of veterans aren't very good, (Anderson and Wilkes), and that the scheme is not very good, either. I agree that the one are on D where we need more tlaent is a speed rusher at defensive end.

 

[upperdeck]

I am wondering why we have so many issues when GT had the same stats against everyone they played this year except for VT.. so do all the defenses stink or do they have a scheme that is tough to play when you only see it once in awhile.. had the offense done anything consistently you probably take away 2 possessions a half. the 1st ends up at worst 21-10 or so.

so did we really stink it up or just play a bit worst than most do against that offense? they avg close to 35o running the ball anyway..

 

[Townie72]

over a decade patience wears thin and starts to run out

I thought we were talking about SU in the ACC. By my watch that's three games not ten years.

 

[rosconey]

I thought we were talking about SU in the ACC. By my watch that's three games not ten years.

but the acc hasnt even been as good as the big east-

doesnt matter-what we have seen is BAD

 

[Orangepace]

This team is largely comprised of the same squad that dealt Missouri a loss in Missouri last year. The talent is there, just need their IQ's to catch up to the scheme and for Shafer to take the reigns again. I imagine this is going to happen, just hope it's sooner than later...

 

[Crusty]

Safety and defensive end.

Yes, and I don't see how the CB's can go unquestioned.Everyone seems to think they are good but the results suck. Sure, it could be that Reed can't cut it, but at some pint the talent has to come under the microscope. Anderson is clearly weal as pass coverage so how can he be considered ACC quality?

 

[Deano]

Perhaps we should consider a 2-3 zone?

Let's just make sure it's not tavern league.

 

[sufandu]

DE for sure. You almost never hear their names mentioned which means they're not making plays. Ours are too slow which can be ok against the run, but really becomes a problem against the pass. Even if Bromley gets a good push up the middle, all a QB with any mobility at all has to do is roll outside and he'll have more than enough time unless we blitz, which brings on a whole different slew of problems. CB also. I just don't think they're that good. I think we have more talent at safety but coaching has them constantly out of position.

 

[Cuseman78]

We don't have Jake Flaherty or Ben Maljovec or Oneil Scott running around out there. The biggest issue on this team, and its not close, is the fact that we have a dolt running our defense. I would like Shafer to pull a Marrone-Spence and take over the play calling reins from Bullough. There is enough talent on this defense, at all positions, to at least run out a serviceable to good defense. Instead, we've given up over 100 points in the first halves of our 5 BCS games. That's abysmal

 

[AZOrange]

Definitely need to increase the size and depth of our safeties. After Esk, they are painfully small and a step too slow, IMO.

If you want to be able to play with the elite of the ACC, then The LB corps needs to get a step faster as a whole as well. Davis and Spruill can play, but after that it's ok. GA Tech and Clemson really exposed this.

Agreed completely, as usual .


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[anomander]

Linebackers?? IMO they are the absolute least of our problems

 

[cusefan88]

Pass rushing DE tops the list. You can be much more flexible if you can generate pressure from only a front four. Chuck Bullough and Shafer love blitzing and I think it's also a function of not having DE's that get to the quarterback.

Josh Thomas looked really good when he played opposite Dwight Freeney. Need that edge rusher big time

 

[CIL]

Linebackers?? IMO they are the absolute least of our problems

Did you see Kirkland or Spruill trying to run down GA Tech's RB's or QB's? They couldn't. Our backers are average for the ACC. Spruill may very well be the only one drafted of the entire lot. The schemes of these schools tend to really stress the defenses horizontally -- with some over the top type stuff thrown in. We needs guys that can run. Period. You think we are trying to bring in 4-5 lbs in the class by accident?

 

[anomander]

Did you see Kirkland or Spruill trying to run down GA Tech's RB's or QB's? They couldn't. Our backers are average for the ACC. Spruill may very well be the only one drafted of the entire lot. The schemes of these schools tend to really stress the defenses horizontally -- with some over the top type stuff thrown in. We needs guys that can run. Period. You think we are trying to bring in 4-5 lbs in the class by accident?

I think we are bringing in 4 or 5 because we are graduating 5 in the next 2 seasons. Kirkland was brought in because he can run. Spruill has been our best or second best defender all season and Davis was looked at as a pre season all ACC selection? Everyone else seems to love Cam Lynch too, who I give you may be a step slow, but is still a good football player. I just totally disagree with LBer being the biggest weakness of the defense. I feel it's the strength


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[CIL]

Maybe I misread your initial post -- but biggest upgrade in talent vs. biggest weakness are two different questions. It's NOT our current greatest weakness. It IS somethign we need to upgrade the most in order to compete in the ACC.

Krikland was brought in to provide depth and is a nice depth player. He was not very good last week against GA Tech, though no one was really.

 

[orangepassion]

Did you see Kirkland or Spruill trying to run down GA Tech's RB's or QB's? They couldn't. Our backers are average for the ACC. Spruill may very well be the only one drafted of the entire lot. The schemes of these schools tend to really stress the defenses horizontally -- with some over the top type stuff thrown in. We needs guys that can run. Period. You think we are trying to bring in 4-5 lbs in the class by accident?

Disagree with you about Spruill -He's an excellent player and has a decent chance to play on Sundays

 

[CIL]

I wrote that spruill would probably be the only one drafted. I agree with you.

 

[MadNY3]

I wrote that spruill would probably be the only one drafted. I agree with you.

You know what this place needs? One of those long CIL posts that even if it says we suck, I feel better because you write it so complicatedly smart.

Ready.

 

[orangepassion]

I think our Lb's are pretty decent. I believe the scheme was a bigger issue against GT

 

[Orangello]

Start with the DC. I think that is more than half of the problem right now.

Better safety play and increase speed at the LB position. I think the staff is trying to do that with this next class.

 

[TheCusian]

Throw out the game vs GT. We tried a gimmick D and it failed.

You can probably throw out Clemson too. 2 NFL receivers - and a 1st round QB who is a senior.

We roughed up NC State - I think this will be closer to who we are vs everyone but FSU.

Talent is fine. We can win 6 with these guys.

 

[SmilinBob]

Perhaps we should consider a 2-3 zone?

Maybe putting Coleman in the middle of the defensive line wouldn't be such a bad idea. He does love to charge.

 

[SoBeCuse]

This team is largely comprised of the same squad that dealt Missouri a loss in Missouri last year. The talent is there, just need their IQ's to catch up to the scheme and for Shafer to take the reigns again. I imagine this is going to happen, just hope it's sooner than later...

If Missouri had that stud DT Richardson playing in that game it would've been a collapsed pocket for Nassib. I think they were down a big WR too.