Dino Babers didn’t sink Syracuse football; free agency did (Guest Opinion by Robyn E. Jobity)

[orangenauburn]

Bc Dino didn’t know what he was doing. Same way he didn’t even know Sean Tucker was that good until 2 guys in front of him went down with injuries. Only reason he “burst onto the scene”. Villari is freak athlete and should have been playing. And on the flip side, a lot of guys shouldn’t have been playing that Dino thought we’re good

Besides play calling I am most intrigued by how or who develops from the OL next year, and how they perform

 

[wooddoc]

Robyn E. Jobity, of Buffalo, is the mother of Syracuse University defensive lineman Kevin Jobity Jr., a sophomore.

Dino Babers didn’t sink Syracuse football; free agency did (Guest Opinion by Robyn E. Jobity)

NIL and the transfer portal tempt players who otherwise would be focused on their teams and studies, writes parent of Syracuse player.

www.syracuse.com

Agree total.

 

[kcsu]

Villari is a good example. I thought he should have been playing more as soon as I saw him play, earlier in the year. I wonder why it took so long?

If not for injuries would Tucker have played.

 

[anomander]

All i got from that letter is Dino is a good guy. A lot of these kids are recruited for 2-3 years before playing another 4-5 (or in some cases 6-7) seasons with this HC. They become more than just a coach so i understand the emotion. Still Dino got more than enough time to prove he was the guy but there were several key areas he was very poor at that can’t happen at a place like Syracuse. In order this is where i believe Dino fell short.

1. Identifying talent. It seems we stumbled on a couple guys like Bergeron, Tucker, and OG, but it took 2 injuries for Tucker to see the field and OG played behind Anthony Queeley and Courtney Jackson for a year. Identifying OL talent was the most drastic and obvious struggle. Marrone proved that there is enough uncovered talent in the NE that you can develop into solid OL’s if you know what you’re doing.

2. Developing talent. As JW said and as we all know, Syracuse is a school that is going to have to develop the talent. I can’t think of many kids who got progressively better as their careers went on. A lot of the same guys either started or played a lot as a freshman until they graduated or left. Jamal Custis could be an example but i believe he was a Shafer recruit. I honestly can’t think of many kids who didn’t play their first couple seasons but came on as upperclassmen.

3. Outside of Tucker and OG he missed on every single skill position recruit over an 8 year period. Is Taj Harris the 2nd best recruit Babers identified and developed? Allen seems like he will be good. He plays hard but lacks that 2nd gear. Totally unacceptable. Even Shafer had guys like Dungey, Erv, Custis, Ishmael, Neal, Strickland.

4. Discipline. Taken into account what is stated above you would think we would be a program that has to pride themselves on discipline. No, we were consistently one of the most penalized teams in the ACC and a lot of them were pre-snap fouls with false starts, or not lining up properly. Him stating that penalities are a part of football has to be the stupidest thing i’ve ever heard a HC say. It would be one thing if these were penalties on live plays like holding, face mask, etc, but these were mental mistakes. I’ve never seen a team get as many pre snap flags that got us behind the chains as Dino’s teams.

5. Clock management. Absolutely atrocious. In that 3 game stretch in 2021 where we lost by 3 points each game to FSU, Clemson, and WF there was a major game management error, or a terrible in game decision. Three straight games against the top programs in the conference and the HC was a major reason each game was lost. Imagine if we won 1 or even 2. Instead of 5-7, we are 6-6, or 6-7, and going to a bowl.

6. Lack of aggression. Dino came in as an aggressive HC who wasn’t afraid to go for it on 4th down. Until the last 2 games where he let it rip he was turned into an overly conservative HC who defied analytics. Hell i don’t even think he had an analytics sheet to go off of.

7. Lack of emotion on the sidelines. I really feel we didn’t get some calls we should have because of his demeanor on the sideline and his unwillingness to press the officials. I’m not asking for a Dazzler or Schiano performance but show some life and stand up for your guys when you think there should be a penalty. Guys on the team notice that type of stuff when they feel their HC doesn’t have their back. That’s why you always see NBA HC’s or good college HC’s work the officials when they see their players complaining of a lack of a call.

Some where along the way Dino lost his way and turned into the anthesis of the HC we hired. Just like the basketball program i think we need a jolt of energy and a total reset. I think Chesney is that guy. He already has relationships with all the NE High School’s but now he gets to sell a P5 program. I think a high energy guy like him who has proven he can win and is familiar with the area can be a home run hire. Hiring someone like Dino who had no NE roots made recruiting tough. It seemed each year the recruits t plan changed and we were forced to develop relationships all over the country. If you have a HC who can identify and develop talent i think there is enough talent in a 6 hour radius or a 1.5 hour flight to win, as well as supplementing that with kids from the ACC footprint in NC, GA, and FL.

 

[SU91]

Dino got better players than the person before. And he got more investment than the person before. He didn’t produce. I was one of his biggest supporters. But things changed. It doesn’t mean we’re not investing in the program. The simple fact that we’re changing coaches means we are. We bought him out and others.

We’re investing more in athletics now than we ever have. At some point folks have to produce.

Did he?

 

[BrooklynCuse]

Robyn E. Jobity, of Buffalo, is the mother of Syracuse University defensive lineman Kevin Jobity Jr., a sophomore.

Dino Babers didn’t sink Syracuse football; free agency did (Guest Opinion by Robyn E. Jobity)

NIL and the transfer portal tempt players who otherwise would be focused on their teams and studies, writes parent of Syracuse player.

www.syracuse.com

I call BS on this article. If you go back 20 years it’s almost the same 25 teams in the rankings except there’s Tulane, Liberty, James Madison and Toledo in the rankings right now.

It doesn’t seem like the portal and NIL has hurt any of those teams. How can Toledo and Tulane be ranked and not SU?

 

[hoopsupstate]

All i got from that letter is Dino is a good guy. A lot of these kids are recruited for 2-3 years before playing another 4-5 (or in some cases 6-7) seasons with this HC. They become more than just a coach so i understand the emotion. Still Dino got more than enough time to prove he was the guy but there were several key areas he was very poor at that can’t happen at a place like Syracuse. In order this is where i believe Dino fell short.

1. Identifying talent. It seems we stumbled on a couple guys like Bergeron, Tucker, and OG, but it took 2 injuries for Tucker to see the field and OG played behind Anthony Queeley and Courtney Jackson for a year. Identifying OL talent was the most drastic and obvious struggle. Marrone proved that there is enough uncovered talent in the NE that you can develop into solid OL’s if you know what you’re doing.

2. Developing talent. As JW said and as we all know, Syracuse is a school that is going to have to develop the talent. I can’t think of many kids who got progressively better as their careers went on. A lot of the same guys either started or played a lot as a freshman until they graduated or left. Jamal Custis could be an example but i believe he was a Shafer recruit. I honestly can’t think of many kids who didn’t play their first couple seasons but came on as upperclassmen.

3. Outside of Tucker and OG he missed on every single skill position recruit over an 8 year period. Is Taj Harris the 2nd best recruit Babers identified and developed? Allen seems like he will be good. He plays hard but lacks that 2nd gear. Totally unacceptable. Even Shafer had guys like Dungey, Erv, Custis, Ishmael, Neal, Strickland.

4. Discipline. Taken into account what is stated above you would think we would be a program that has to pride themselves on discipline. No, we were consistently one of the most penalized teams in the ACC and a lot of them were pre-snap fouls with false starts, or not lining up properly. Him stating that penalities are a part of football has to be the stupidest thing i’ve ever heard a HC say. It would be one thing if these were penalties on live plays like holding, face mask, etc, but these were mental mistakes. I’ve never seen a team get as many pre snap flags that got us behind the chains as Dino’s teams.

5. Clock management. Absolutely atrocious. In that 3 game stretch in 2021 where we lost by 3 points each game to FSU, Clemson, and WF there was a major game management error, or a terrible in game decision. Three straight games against the top programs in the conference and the HC was a major reason each game was lost. Imagine if we won 1 or even 2. Instead of 5-7, we are 6-6, or 6-7, and going to a bowl.

6. Lack of aggression. Dino came in as an aggressive HC who wasn’t afraid to go for it on 4th down. Until the last 2 games where he let it rip he was turned into an overly conservative HC who defied analytics. Hell i don’t even think he had an analytics sheet to go off of.

7. Lack of emotion on the sidelines. I really feel we didn’t get some calls we should have because of his demeanor on the sideline and his unwillingness to press the officials. I’m not asking for a Dazzler or Schiano performance but show some life and stand up for your guys when you think there should be a penalty. Guys on the team notice that type of stuff when they feel their HC doesn’t have their back. That’s why you always see NBA HC’s or good college HC’s work the officials when they see their players complaining of a lack of a call.

Some where along the way Dino lost his way and turned into the anthesis of the HC we hired. Just like the basketball program i think we need a jolt of energy and a total reset. I think Chesney is that guy. He already has relationships with all the NE High School’s but now he gets to sell a P5 program. I think a high energy guy like him who has proven he can win and is familiar with the area can be a home run hire. Hiring someone like Dino who had no NE roots made recruiting tough. It seemed each year the recruits t plan changed and we were forced to develop relationships all over the country. If you have a HC who can identify and develop talent i think there is enough talent in a 6 hour radius or a 1.5 hour flight to win, as well as supplementing that with kids from the ACC footprint in NC, GA, and FL.

Good post!

 

[HRE Otto IV]

All i got from that letter is Dino is a good guy. A lot of these kids are recruited for 2-3 years before playing another 4-5 (or in some cases 6-7) seasons with this HC. They become more than just a coach so i understand the emotion. Still Dino got more than enough time to prove he was the guy but there were several key areas he was very poor at that can’t happen at a place like Syracuse. In order this is where i believe Dino fell short.

1. Identifying talent. It seems we stumbled on a couple guys like Bergeron, Tucker, and OG, but it took 2 injuries for Tucker to see the field and OG played behind Anthony Queeley and Courtney Jackson for a year. Identifying OL talent was the most drastic and obvious struggle. Marrone proved that there is enough uncovered talent in the NE that you can develop into solid OL’s if you know what you’re doing.

2. Developing talent. As JW said and as we all know, Syracuse is a school that is going to have to develop the talent. I can’t think of many kids who got progressively better as their careers went on. A lot of the same guys either started or played a lot as a freshman until they graduated or left. Jamal Custis could be an example but i believe he was a Shafer recruit. I honestly can’t think of many kids who didn’t play their first couple seasons but came on as upperclassmen.

3. Outside of Tucker and OG he missed on every single skill position recruit over an 8 year period. Is Taj Harris the 2nd best recruit Babers identified and developed? Allen seems like he will be good. He plays hard but lacks that 2nd gear. Totally unacceptable. Even Shafer had guys like Dungey, Erv, Custis, Ishmael, Neal, Strickland.

4. Discipline. Taken into account what is stated above you would think we would be a program that has to pride themselves on discipline. No, we were consistently one of the most penalized teams in the ACC and a lot of them were pre-snap fouls with false starts, or not lining up properly. Him stating that penalities are a part of football has to be the stupidest thing i’ve ever heard a HC say. It would be one thing if these were penalties on live plays like holding, face mask, etc, but these were mental mistakes. I’ve never seen a team get as many pre snap flags that got us behind the chains as Dino’s teams.

5. Clock management. Absolutely atrocious. In that 3 game stretch in 2021 where we lost by 3 points each game to FSU, Clemson, and WF there was a major game management error, or a terrible in game decision. Three straight games against the top programs in the conference and the HC was a major reason each game was lost. Imagine if we won 1 or even 2. Instead of 5-7, we are 6-6, or 6-7, and going to a bowl.

6. Lack of aggression. Dino came in as an aggressive HC who wasn’t afraid to go for it on 4th down. Until the last 2 games where he let it rip he was turned into an overly conservative HC who defied analytics. Hell i don’t even think he had an analytics sheet to go off of.

7. Lack of emotion on the sidelines. I really feel we didn’t get some calls we should have because of his demeanor on the sideline and his unwillingness to press the officials. I’m not asking for a Dazzler or Schiano performance but show some life and stand up for your guys when you think there should be a penalty. Guys on the team notice that type of stuff when they feel their HC doesn’t have their back. That’s why you always see NBA HC’s or good college HC’s work the officials when they see their players complaining of a lack of a call.

Some where along the way Dino lost his way and turned into the anthesis of the HC we hired. Just like the basketball program i think we need a jolt of energy and a total reset. I think Chesney is that guy. He already has relationships with all the NE High School’s but now he gets to sell a P5 program. I think a high energy guy like him who has proven he can win and is familiar with the area can be a home run hire. Hiring someone like Dino who had no NE roots made recruiting tough. It seemed each year the recruits t plan changed and we were forced to develop relationships all over the country. If you have a HC who can identify and develop talent i think there is enough talent in a 6 hour radius or a 1.5 hour flight to win, as well as supplementing that with kids from the ACC footprint in NC, GA, and FL.

I feel like more players got worse than got better. Caleb this year. Jackson and Deuce last year. Queeley both the last 2 years. Tommy after his 1st year. Nykeim, Riley, Hackett. Szmyt. Mikel SR year.

We also didn't use Allen at all last year which was weird, especially if Tucker was indeed hurt.

 

[elimunelson]

We just want to be better. It’s not a crime to have high expectations and hold the coach to those. Dino did what every coach should do which is lead by example and teach.

Dinos time was up because the results stagnated. You are what you are

 

[tep624]

We just want to be better. It’s not a crime to have high expectations and hold the coach to those. Dino did what every coach should do which is lead by example and teach.

Dinos time was up because the results stagnated. You are what you are

I wouldn’t say our expectations are even high comparatively.

 

[BKCuse]

The overall point of Robyn’s letter is spot on.

I’ll take it a step further and into the transfer portal.

There are a lot of players in the portal who we want but can’t get because we don’t have the NIL money to compete. A LOT.

I’m not mad at Dino for mentioning NIL. It’s the cold hard truth and the next coach will have the same challenge to deal with.

Hopefully our collective is getting up to speed to close the gap for the next guy.

 

[Orangefan1]

All I read here is that Dino made an impact on his players and their families. That is to be appreciated and applauded.

The bottom line is he didn’t win enough…that’s it.

And he had a lot of questionable decision making through his coaching career. Ones that were head scratchers beyond head scratchers